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babysimba
10466 Posts
VP must be trembling. The 2 teams that were historically VP's worst matchups have combined forces. Suddenly becomes an exciting last major if Optic manages to replace OG's slot. DPC ranked 5-9 teams + TNC are still capable of fighting for top 8. Mski and VG are technically quite safe though as it seems statistically impossible for all top 4 teams to fuck up at the same time in the major. | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
On May 29 2018 06:48 oahippo wrote: I have been out of the Dota 2 scene for the last six months, but seeing this roster got me fired up to play a few games to get ready to see this roll out. It feels like a repeat of the failed prophecy of the Artz secret. Really looking forward to seeing these guys succeed. failed prophecy was when he had been on a team that was winning everything (much like VP) up to the point of TI. the final game they had they picked luna for rtz and left him alone in lane. now he's on a team that has to gel for the next 4 months. | ||
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Wineandbread
United States2065 Posts
Wonder if it was just him or also other OG members? | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On May 29 2018 03:33 DavoS wrote: Not what I was expecting at all. I’m not incredibly optimistic honestly, Fly’s value as a player seems directly tied to whether or not Dazzle and WW are top tier picks. Actually Dazzle did get a bunch of buffs so maybe... S4 is always good, as long as him and Arteezy don’t butt heads he will be an upgrade. Now what becomes of the rest of OG? Obviously 7mad will not be playing anywhere but I wouldn’t be surprised if n0tail and Jerax fade away too you don't have to worry about S4 vs Rtz... as long as Rtz not winning TI, S4 won't talk to him | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On May 29 2018 07:48 Wineandbread wrote: According to this https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8msz1d/7ckngmad_on_twitter_heres_what_i_have_to_say/, 7mad didn't see it coming, so it was an unexpected move even within OG. Wonder if it was just him or also other OG members? Dota is brutal for pro players. There's no room for friendship and loyalty when your team doesn't have a TI invite, you're looking at a $20m+ prize pool, and your only path is through quals. I think most pros retain friendships even with this kind of stuff, because they've been in that same mental state. Still, there's no room for emotions when placing even decently at TI (top 8 or top 12) for a few months of grinding can pay for years of your career. edit: on a less understanding note, if fuckingmad was considered one of the best in the world like S4 is, he would probably have a different outlook on fly and s4's decision (the whole Team Ideals vs Winning Money thing). | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10655 Posts
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Rochhardo
Germany30 Posts
'Strongest team' I read here again and again ... because of what? Because they have good players who performed well in the past with other teams(mates)? Because some years ago the people won with other teams something? Its like my grandpa talking about good old times. In politics you give office holder the first 100 days to show what they are capable of doing. We should do the same with Dota teams after a roster shuffle. I dont know if this teams work out. I dont know if this team is capable to achieve anything. But to predict EG will now win TI is the same as saying EG wont make it through qualifiers. I could ask my crystal ball for such predictions. It is indeed an interesting move and EG got the chance to show at the coming major, what they can do with this new roster. I still think that Misery and Fear wasnt the problem, EG is struggeling at the moment, and so this new roster wont change much. But we will see, and maybe I am wrong, at the coming major. But to be honest ... I wouldnt be surprised, if this roster fall apart as quick as it tied together. For OG it is a time to show what the management can do. I believe 7Mad that they were took by surprise ... I mean you also dont tell your boss you will quit your job ahead. But now they can show, if they are just able to win tournaments, or if they are able to go through hard times too. And if they are able to turn out better and shinier than before this crisis. For the vacant spot at the Super Major I would like to see OpTic get it. And thats just because they have a real chance to get, with a decent good tournament, an invite rank for TI. So VGJ Thunder and OpTic would need to fight hard, for the invite 8th place and this brings just more excitement into the tournament ... because otherwise, this tournament wont change anything at TI invites. | ||
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
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Qualitaetsgarant
124 Posts
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goody153
44087 Posts
But Synergy/Chemistry is something that will or will not pop out during the actual time the team is together. So you can't really tell if there's synergy or not unless the team tries being a team and given time together to figure shit out. It's a bonus if the team has high skillcap players that ended up with synergy. | ||
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550
418 Posts
optic got the priority invite? (depending on visas) funnily there were (STILL) a deleted ppd tweet implying something-something-inviting-non-DPC-eligible-something-something just had to lowkey imply something huh :hmmm: seems OK | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
On May 29 2018 09:48 Qualitaetsgarant wrote: Another reason for Optic is that they missed the Philippines Major they qualified for due to the cancellation. This was replaced by the Bucharest Major | ||
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
On May 29 2018 09:49 goody153 wrote: I do agree that synergy/chemistry/teamwork is a thing in fact we have teams who owned because of it (Wings) But Synergy/Chemistry is something that will or will not pop out during the actual time the team is together. So you can't really tell if there's synergy or not unless the team tries being a team and given time together to figure shit out. It's a bonus if the team has high skillcap players that ended up with synergy. True, but then there are people like the first post on this page (it may be sarcasm though) that thinks they will all of a sudden be able to threathen VP (and besides team chemistry, I think VP still has better players, position for position). Regardless I guess we just have to wait and see how things goes. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10655 Posts
Fly and S4 has everything to prove and everything to lose. And I don’t really think Fly is the type that does well under these circumstances. This is me speaking from the HUGEST fanboy pov since fnatic HoN days. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
I'm half expecting they just took it for the free salary for the next couple months. Was pretty obvious OG wasn't placing better than dead last at TI, and their chances are marginally better now. | ||
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Nagvalk
South Africa220 Posts
So no OG or EG at TI this year... Oh well, let's go Liquid! | ||
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
But Fly gf is OG manager and Seem to have surprised her as well. Her comment on twitter: For me it's really a surprise that Fly leaves behind friendship, and organization that he build and a gf manager. But think a change of cast can do both Fly and N0tail good. Maybe some new ideas and input, the ability to be honest about each others play without risking friendship will do them both good. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4349 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On May 29 2018 13:34 DropBear wrote: How many teams does Arteezy need to destroy before he is satisfied? lol so for the betterment of esport lets give Artour his honorary aegis so he can retire in peace? | ||
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