Not what I was expecting at all. I’m not incredibly optimistic honestly, Fly’s value as a player seems directly tied to whether or not Dazzle and WW are top tier picks.
Actually Dazzle did get a bunch of buffs so maybe...
S4 is always good, as long as him and Arteezy don’t butt heads he will be an upgrade.
Now what becomes of the rest of OG? Obviously 7mad will not be playing anywhere but I wouldn’t be surprised if n0tail and Jerax fade away too

its_a_me

Austria612 Posts

May 28 2018 18:40 GMT

#25

interesting desperation move, both teams had no chance of winning TI, now they have on paper a roster.
I am still sceptic, i dont think they will do well again till sumail stops beeing a toxic diva.
Kicking misery was the right thing.
Lets see what the future bings, if they rang bad at TI it will be a insta disband.

Taf the Ghost

United States11751 Posts

May 28 2018 18:41 GMT

#26

On May 29 2018 02:34 Pandemona wrote:
Oh my bad, it was a "please happen" reddit post about fnatic;

http://twitter.com/pwrd_dota2/status/1001146879965458432?s=21

Is ppd & crew going to China to see if they can knock out VGJ.T?

Taf the Ghost

United States11751 Posts

May 28 2018 18:43 GMT

#27

On May 29 2018 02:20 Pandemona wrote:
OMG

This is actually amazing, i would never had thought EG could get any better, but this squad. OMG i cannot wait!

This squad is really surprising. I know the s4->EG has been a talking point, but I'm really surprised Fly went. Fly & Notail splitting up seems really surprising, but maybe they talked it out and realize the season was kind of a loss at this point.

550

418 Posts

May 28 2018 18:52 GMT

#28

the normal route for replacement

would be some team from the same region as OG

but is there any decent EU team left? that would be the correct standard though

spudde123

4814 Posts

May 28 2018 19:04 GMT

#29

On May 29 2018 03:52 550 wrote:
the normal route for replacement

would be some team from the same region as OG

but is there any decent EU team left? that would be the correct standard though

OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic

hunter_x

Germany2762 Posts

May 28 2018 19:06 GMT

#30

This team should be good on paper yeah. Same could be said about rtz and universe Secret. Lets wait and see;)

Chillander

219 Posts

May 28 2018 19:10 GMT

#31

Im going to be real pessimistic here, and say I think this is going nowhere. They should have taken risks, try out something new with much hungrier unaccomplished players.

It´s just like when Secret tried that superstar team, it aint working

BUT, I'm hoping things go well, best of luck to new EG! (But please don't beat LGD and TNC at TI)

739

Bearded Elder29903 Posts

May 28 2018 19:12 GMT

#32

Damn, that's probably one of the best moves EG could do.

Nice job, I hope it will work well.

Qualitaetsgarant

124 Posts

May 28 2018 19:45 GMT

#33

JerAx left Liquid for OG, now Liquid is TI Champion and OG is dead. That irony.

550

418 Posts

May 28 2018 19:52 GMT

#34

On May 29 2018 04:04 spudde123 wrote:

Show nested quote +

OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic

from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from being EU,

considering:

they based the first 3 from NOT cn DPC
then they invited 3 from cn DPC(the remaining teams are cn anyway)

then
they based the last 4 invites on regions which are NOT cn

they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG

the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment

idk though
things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions

which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi
when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period

if anything SA (deservingly-should-be-ignored) over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites

arghyad1

India243 Posts

May 28 2018 20:05 GMT

#35

On May 29 2018 04:52 550 wrote:

Show nested quote +

from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from EU standpoint,

considering:

they based the first 3 from non CN DPC
then they invited 3 from CN DPC(the remaining teams are CN anyway)

then
they based the last 4 invites on regions which are non CN

they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG

the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment

idk though
things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions

which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi
when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period

if anything SA (as they should) deservingly ignored over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites

At the time the qualifiers were sent out the invited teams were the top 10 teams DPC point wise. Your break-up analysis is just a coincidence.

Hoping 1 top team like LGD, VP or Liquid also pulls out to take rest before TI and both Fnatic & Optic play in Supermajor. They are the next 2 DPC teams on the table that are not in the tourney.

Racket

3023 Posts

May 28 2018 20:06 GMT

#36

What I don't understand is, people were asking for NaVi to not be allowed to play ESL because of one change to its roster, but so far I haven't seen any comment of EG and the Supermajor. This community is quite weird.

Pontual

Brazil3038 Posts

May 28 2018 20:11 GMT

#37

On May 29 2018 05:06 Racket wrote:
What I don't understand is, people were asking for NaVi to not be allowed to play ESL because of one change to its roster, but so far I haven't seen any comment of EG and the Supermajor. This community is quite weird.

Oh no, what happened is that Na'vi didn't deserve their invite because it was based on the dpc points from a player they acquired

EG and Na'vi being invited to Supermajor is awful and got a lot of criticism

arghyad1

India243 Posts

May 28 2018 20:11 GMT

#38

EG has actually become a very good team on paper with multiple previous TI & major winners in their roster. Na'vi brought in 1 players who was completely unaccomplished and Li'l who is not a crowd favourite. I guess this is why people are ok with EG as they are expected to be among the top contenders for the supermajor top 4 at least on paper.

550

418 Posts

May 28 2018 20:12 GMT

#39

On May 29 2018 05:05 arghyad1 wrote:

Show nested quote +

at the time of before and after epicenter:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8hh403/dpc_ranking_epicenter_xl_5th_may_2018/

if it was going from Top-Btm of DPC (non cn team prioritized)
then it should be both MINESKI and Fnatic (being higher than OG),
i think the TO-s would want not to be judged for inviting two SEA teams, therefore they went for OG

so i think it is because Fnatic was SEA, therefore they went to EU.
therefore i think its no coincidence
they went for 1 SEA NA EU CIS (non cn)?

isit not?

WolfintheSheep

Canada14127 Posts

May 28 2018 20:13 GMT

#40

On May 29 2018 03:27 calippo wrote:
back to EU team, EU EU EU EU EU!!!

Isn't Fly Canadian?