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ESL One Birmingham - The Brexit Major

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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
May 23 2018 00:06 GMT
#1
DotaPit Season 4 Playoff Preview

Table of Contents


Intro

Group A - VP, EG, Fnatic, Team Spirit

Group B - TL, VG, Pain, OG

Group C - Mineski, Newbee, OpTic, LFY

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ESL One Birmingham marks the second-to-last Major of the first Dota Pro Circuit season, as well as one of the last two remaining chances for teams to earn enough points to get a direct invite to TI8. For OpTic and Pain Gaming nothing short of a win can put them into the top 8, while Fnatic would surpass VGJ.Thunder with a grand finals appearance. EG has a little more room to work with as they could claim the 8th spot as long as they finish in the top 3. For the rest of the teams this Major either doesn’t matter, or could be used to strengthen their position in the top 8 with only one more Major left this year. The tournament format is more than a little unique for a Major with half the teams being eliminated in the group stage followed by a single elimination 8 man bracket. With the groups already drawn let's get into who we believe will come out on top.



Group A - VP, EG, Fnatic, Team Spirit


Perhaps it is a bit unlucky that EG and Fnatic, two teams who are aiming to break into the top 8 and claim a very important top 4 finish, have met each other in the same group. With Team Spirit taking Na`Vi’s spot in Group A the likelihood of both EG and Fnatic making it out of the group has not increased. The reason that it hasn’t become any easier for the two aforementioned teams is that the last team in the group is the one and only Virtus Pro. Against EG and Fnatic it would be hard to confidently say either of them has a good chance of beating Virtus Pro in a bo3; not impossible, but not likely.

Looking more closely at the individual teams, Fnatic are coming in off their 3rd/4th place finish at GESC: Thailand. During the group stage of the Minor Fnatic went undefeated with a 7-0 scoreline which involved a win against EG. They then proceeded to lose to VGJ.Storm, but after VGJ’s 2nd place finish at MDL it sheds a much better light on how well Fnatic actually did. EG on the other hand was also at GESC: Thailand and finished 3rd in the group going 5-2, their only losses to Fnatic and Team Secret. They lost to Keen Gaming, who then went on to beat Secret as well, so all things considered the match between the two of them should be close. Group A will most likely come down to a head to head between EG and Fnatic for second place, while VP comfortably takes first in the group.



Group B - TL, VG, Pain, OG


Two strong favourites and two challengers is how you could think of Group B; Team Liquid and Vici Gaming fighting for the top spot while Pain Gaming and OG battle for the scraps left over. Pain Gaming has looked much better after the addition of W33ha, and with TI qualifiers right around the corner these matches could be what separate them from other teams in the South American region. If they manage to make it out of this group the boost to their confidence may be all they need to not only make it to TI but also perform well there. OG on the other hand has been struggling for months and this may be their last chance to work out any issues before they face the qualifiers.

Vici Gaming is looking to cement their status as a TI8 invite with a finish in the top 4, but first they have to ensure that they can beat at least two out of the three teams in their group. A recent 3rd place finish at MDL on top of winning the DPL season 5 in China has marked them as one of the top teams in the region. Add to that LaNm’s creativity and the team could very well rival TL for first place in Group B.



Group C - Mineski, Newbee, OpTic, LFY



Perhaps the most even of the three groups is Group C with Mineski, Newbee, OpTic, and LFY. While normally one would say Mineski and Newbee are favored, Newbee’s recent performances have left more than just a little doubt in their ability to escape such a group. PPD’s OpTic Gaming won the StarLadder Minor a little over a month ago and may upset the TI7 runner-up. LFY has had a much harder run of things lately, placing 5th-8th in most qualifiers after coming dead last at the Bucharest Major. Due to that this group will likely become a three way race with Mineski having the edge over Newbee and OpTic.

Mineski has finished 5th/6th at back-to-back Major’s and although they have secured their TI invite will no doubt be looking to claw their way to a championship before the season ends and they begin to prepare for Vancouver. Jabz and Ninjaboogie are a support duo to be feared and while Iceiceice is always known for making crucial plays when the team is counting on him the support duo can be said to be the backbone of the team. It would not be surprise to see Mineski make a deep run at this Major with how the team has been performing as of late.



Current DPC rankings can be seen here

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GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
May 23 2018 02:04 GMT
#2
CIS warlords arise! Show no mercy and conquer these memers and weebs from the west and the pacific!
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
May 23 2018 06:24 GMT
#3
Who's going?

Can't be asked going on my own, but can drive up there Saturday or Sunday.
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
May 23 2018 07:01 GMT
#4
Nice headline, made me chuckle.

Anyway, LGD and Secret not qualified? Or, they chose not to attend? Seems a bit odd if they're not invited
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
Rochhardo
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany30 Posts
May 23 2018 08:03 GMT
#5
On May 23 2018 16:01 brinepumps wrote:
Nice headline, made me chuckle.

Anyway, LGD and Secret not qualified? Or, they chose not to attend? Seems a bit odd if they're not invited


Both were not invited. Secret fell of behind their own performance from the start of the season, so it dont wonder me they got no invite. On the other hand, they dont need to go through qualifiers when the spot at TI are already safe.

LGD did perform recently very well but after the invites for Birmingham are already made. In the qualifiers on the other hand, they didnt even reached the final.
"Whoa, if Kuro is yelling, then it’s on."
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
May 23 2018 09:30 GMT
#6
Imagine wanting to spend your weekend in Birmingham lol

ESL chose a really shite location all to cut costs.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 23 2018 09:46 GMT
#7
On May 23 2018 18:30 Nymzee wrote:
Imagine wanting to spend your weekend in Birmingham lol

ESL chose a really shite location all to cut costs.

Is some nice hotels,bars and resturaunts in brum tbh. Not the best structural place or "sites" to see of course not, but it is still a good city in terms of things to do in it, just not any 200ft sky skrapers or forests to see.
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VvvV1251
Profile Joined January 2016
Algeria142 Posts
May 23 2018 10:17 GMT
#8
On May 23 2018 17:03 Rochhardo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2018 16:01 brinepumps wrote:
Nice headline, made me chuckle.

Anyway, LGD and Secret not qualified? Or, they chose not to attend? Seems a bit odd if they're not invited


Both were not invited. Secret fell of behind their own performance from the start of the season, so it dont wonder me they got no invite. On the other hand, they dont need to go through qualifiers when the spot at TI are already safe.

LGD did perform recently very well but after the invites for Birmingham are already made. In the qualifiers on the other hand, they didnt even reached the final.


Not sure, but i think LGD forfeited this tournament in favor of MDL, same as VP forfeited MDL for ESL. Since Na'vi forfeited their spot, ESL should have send PSG.LGD an invite.

On the other hand, for me this tournament will start few days latter, Facebook stream give me a headache.
Rochhardo
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany30 Posts
May 23 2018 18:04 GMT
#9
On May 23 2018 18:30 Nymzee wrote:
Imagine wanting to spend your weekend in Birmingham lol

ESL chose a really shite location all to cut costs.


Imagine this tournament would be held in London. Did you ever make even a short trip to London and tried to hold your money together?


On May 23 2018 19:17 VvvV1251 wrote:

Not sure, but i think LGD forfeited this tournament in favor of MDL, same as VP forfeited MDL for ESL. Since Na'vi forfeited their spot, ESL should have send PSG.LGD an invite.

On the other hand, for me this tournament will start few days latter, Facebook stream give me a headache.


Even the CIS teams had struggles to get visas in time and got them approved two days ago (as it seems). I dont think a Chinese team would have it easier to get them.

Also it would be unfair to a whole region. Na'Vi did go through the qualifiers and wasnt a direct invite. So just because they withdrew, to invite a team from another region, and send the middlefinger to a whole region is pretty hard and not really fairplay manner as tournament organizer.
"Whoa, if Kuro is yelling, then it’s on."
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 24 2018 08:21 GMT
#10
On May 23 2018 18:46 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2018 18:30 Nymzee wrote:
Imagine wanting to spend your weekend in Birmingham lol

ESL chose a really shite location all to cut costs.

Is some nice hotels,bars and resturaunts in brum tbh. Not the best structural place or "sites" to see of course not, but it is still a good city in terms of things to do in it, just not any 200ft sky skrapers or forests to see.

i was pleasantly surprised at the prices of the hotels nearby, although i did book quite early
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
May 24 2018 12:17 GMT
#11
Any TL meetups planned for Saturday?

Will be round for the day!
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-25 08:58:10
May 25 2018 08:57 GMT
#12
ESL seems to be doing worse every time. I cannot say we are easy to please, but they are not making any visible efforts. If their formats are going to be like this, they should at least be Minors instead.
arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-26 06:44:13
May 26 2018 06:43 GMT
#13
On May 25 2018 17:57 Racket wrote:
ESL seems to be doing worse every time. I cannot say we are easy to please, but they are not making any visible efforts. If their formats are going to be like this, they should at least be Minors instead.


I agree. Just 2 series per day for the last 3 days.. this makes me real sad as a spectator. Valve should give other guidelines other than only prize pool for the segregation of majors / minors.
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
Nopeudon
Profile Joined March 2012
172 Posts
May 26 2018 12:29 GMT
#14
Indeed. The gap between MDL, ESL and the Supermajor are also too close imo. Between the funky format and the lack of games, ESL could just be a minor in the future.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 26 2018 13:19 GMT
#15
Doto then football! Go pain and pool though head says VP and real.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
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