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Key: No life time ban on players.
Mid March, 2017
Wage payment delayed for over 30 days.
Early April, 2017
Players terminated labor contract in writing.
According to Chinese Labor Law, employee can terminate contract with 30 days’ notice in advance. Employee can also terminate contract freely when wage payment is late for over 30 days unless company is experiencing financial difficulties.
Players have 2 contracts with Wings Gaming. A labor contract and a E-sports pro player representation contract. Players terminated labor contract referencing Chinese Labor Law. But E-sports pro player representation contract prevent them from playing for another team until the contract expires in Oct, 2017.
Early April, 2017
ACE offered to cover unpaid wages with deposit from Wings Gaming, but players did not accept the offer.
Teams are required to have a deposit to cover unpaid/delayed wages.
Mid April, 2017
Wings Gaming paid up unpaid wages and offered to pay future wages in advance.
April 18th, 2017
Players changed team name to Team Random.
April 20th, 2017
Players notified ACE that they have left Wings Gaming.
April 22th, 2017
Players refused ACE to mediate differences between players and Wings Gaming.
April 25th, 2017
ACE held team manager meeting, Wings chose not to attend. All teams agreed to not recruit players from Wings until the contract dispute is resolved.
ACE attempted to keep the team together and avoid player poaching from other teams. This also protects Wings Gaming’s investment into the team and the player.
May 3rd, 2017
Players met with ACE and team managers. ACE advised players to settle their differences with Wings Gaming ASAP. This gives them enough time to decide whether to stay together as a team or finding new teams.
May 12th, 2017
ACE asked Wings Gaming to explain the details and resolutions
May 13th, 2017
Wings Gaming made a public statement claiming the contract dispute is not resolved
May 16th, 2017
EHome manager attempted to transfer “faith_bian” and “y” at ACE office.
May 17th, 2017 “Iceice” posted on Weibo mentioned ACE imposed life time ban, iG and LGD blocked y’s transfer to EHome. He deleted the post shortly after.
ACE never imposed life time ban on players. In fact, the penalty for players has not been discussed yet, but the maximum ban for such issue is one year.
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Im no sure whats funnier: the players bitching about a late salary (which is probably a tiny amount compared to the prize money) after winning 1.8 mil $ per player or Wings for being stupid enough to not pay for wages after their players became the hottest commodity on the market. The way this timeline is framed it seems that the players didn't respect the 30 days notice and perhaps ended the contract outside the legal framework of Chinese labor law. If they didnt submit a 30 days notice, then ACE should punish them, if they did then they should be released of their contracts without any punishment from ACE. Thats how I see it anyways.
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On May 21 2017 06:05 FreakyDroid wrote:
Im no sure whats funnier: the players bitching about a late salary (which is probably a tiny amount compared to the prize money) after winning 1.8 mil $ per player or Wings for being stupid enough to not pay for wages after their players became the hottest commodity on the market. The way this timeline is framed it seems that the players didn't respect the 30 days notice and perhaps ended the contract outside the legal framework of Chinese labor law. If they didnt submit a 30 days notice, then ACE should punish them, if they did then they should be released of their contracts without any punishment from ACE. Thats how I see it anyways.
I read it as them being unhappy with their employer so that when the organisation made a huge mistake that allowed a cancellation of contract they took it. Ace was more of the opinion that it was a mistake that could be arbitrated while the players wanted out.
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What are the "contract disputes" that are mentioned in the OP? Just with the information given here, it looks like the players were well within their rights legally to terminate the contracts. They did, the contracts are over. What is there left to dispute?
Also, if these "disputes" are not well defined, what's the stop the organisation from claiming they haven't been resolved indefinitely? Effectively, they could hold all 5 player's careers hostage until they agree to their terms.
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Its still a bit unclear if the management from Wings had any communication with the players regarding the late payment. I believe in the previous thread it was mentioned that no one spoke to the players about it, and if that's really the case then the contracts are legally terminated. But then again ,this whole thing is not very transparent and everyone seems to be giving only their side of the story.
As Yurie pointed out, its obvious that the players were unhappy with Wings and took the first exit, otherwise why would they want to leave just for 1 late payment. ACE may want to punish the players, but if the cancellation of the contracts was legal, then I will see it as a cowardly act by ACE that wants to stay relevant in representing organizations which clearly in Dota have less and less power nowadays since most of the money comes from Valve events and they deal with players directly. So in that sense, this whole thing seems to me like a power play then anything else.
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Players have 2 contract with Wings Gaming. A labor contract and a E-sports pro player representation contract. Players terminated labor contract referencing Chinese Labor Law. But E-sports pro player representation contract prevent them from playing for another team until the contract expires in Oct, 2017.
Labor contract basically says players should play for Wings in exchange for training facility, food & lodge, travel expenses, wages and a big cut from all the prize money.
E-sports pro player representation contract says they cannot play for another team.
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Relationship between players and owner turned sour right after TI. The original contract says owner takes 40% cut from TI prize money, this is higher comparing to other teams' 0-15% cut and players weren't happy about it. In the end owner compromised and changed to 20% cut. Rumor says owner invested into LOL in 2017, but lost tons of money and caused serious cash flow issue. Players also mentioned owner spent less time with them and so on.
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I'm still totally lost.
Hopefully we get to see ex-Wings players at TI.
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The players should be punished. They broke their contracts and acted in a very unprofessional manner throughout the issue. Then they whined and cried online even though they weren't banned for lifetime.
I think they should be banned for a full year from competing in the Chinese scene.
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