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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-15 18:49:18
February 15 2018 18:48 GMT
#186441
For some reason I thought tornado duration scaled with both quas and wex at some point but I appear to be very wrong. You can tell I'm not an invoker player xd
but yeah if u have max q by the time u get meteor hammer anyway then it doesn't matter at all
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 15 2018 18:54 GMT
#186442
it used to be that the dmg scaled both off of both but that got changed aswell
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 15 2018 20:00 GMT
#186443
The prof I work for told me the students are amazed at how quickly I mark.

In response, he told them I don't have a life. I mean he's not wrong, but I wish he had a more gentle way of saying it.
kiss kiss fall in love
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
February 15 2018 20:14 GMT
#186444
Ith you have us!
passive quaranstream fan
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 15 2018 20:17 GMT
#186445
huh patch is out

its a meme but 0 hero changes rofl
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
February 15 2018 20:23 GMT
#186446
i think we're one patch away from "all teams start with free courier"
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7086 Posts
February 15 2018 20:26 GMT
#186447
i mean to be fair the last time the courier's price changed it got twice as expensive
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
February 15 2018 20:36 GMT
#186448
On February 16 2018 05:14 Artisreal wrote:
Ith you have us!

Love you too!

But maybe loving nerds on the internet whom I've never met is exactly the sort of thing he was talking about.
kiss kiss fall in love
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
February 15 2018 20:58 GMT
#186449
Any good advice for a person being a company supervisor for a master thesis? First time doing it so wondered if there was any good list of do and don't. Being available, helping them limit scope, connecting them to other people at the company and suggesting ways to move forward is what I've come up with thus far.

Their supervisor at the university is of course responsible for them having a thesis that can pass or not but want to enable them as much as possible without removing the learning.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 15 2018 20:58 GMT
#186450
The courier costing money is sort of a silly hold over. A second courier costing money make sense. But not the first one.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-15 21:13:01
February 15 2018 21:04 GMT
#186451
On February 16 2018 05:58 Yurie wrote:
Any good advice for a person being a company supervisor for a master thesis? First time doing it so wondered if there was any good list of do and don't. Being available, helping them limit scope, connecting them to other people at the company and suggesting ways to move forward is what I've come up with thus far.

Their supervisor at the university is of course responsible for them having a thesis that can pass or not but want to enable them as much as possible without removing the learning.

I talk to people in industry from time to time, and it may be possible you'll have to tell the person the physical restrictions of what you can/can't make.

For example, I make printed circuitboards and someone in a company would tell me the resolution of the tools they have, and what possibilities exist. And if it's commercially viable (costs too much/too little profit/etc)

I'm guessing you're in charge of helping them with implementation or fabrication right? Because the theory/idea/design parts of it are solely the responsibility of their academic supervisor. At least that's how it works in my field.

As far as what I like from people in the field, it's probably great to communicate clearly what you CAN make and what alternatives exist. It's usually great to have it outlined right away, so they can be used in design parameters. I think what you've thought up is great, but it's a good assumption you'll be useful to grounding the student to the real world, because people can come up with a lot of impractical designs for a number of reasons.

I think universally, letting the student know the direction of the industry's also helpful since their academic supervisor may be pretty far removed from the actual field.
kiss kiss fall in love
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
February 15 2018 21:17 GMT
#186452
Tell them that rewriting is easier than to craft the perfect sentence right from the start.
At one point the thesis might not be finished, but it's ready to be handed in.
passive quaranstream fan
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-15 21:20:49
February 15 2018 21:18 GMT
#186453
On February 16 2018 06:04 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2018 05:58 Yurie wrote:
Any good advice for a person being a company supervisor for a master thesis? First time doing it so wondered if there was any good list of do and don't. Being available, helping them limit scope, connecting them to other people at the company and suggesting ways to move forward is what I've come up with thus far.

Their supervisor at the university is of course responsible for them having a thesis that can pass or not but want to enable them as much as possible without removing the learning.

I talk to people in industry from time to time, and it may be possible you'll have to tell the person the physical restrictions of what you can/can't make.

For example, I make printed circuitboards and someone in a company would tell me the resolution of the tools they have, and what possibilities exist. And if it's commercially viable (costs too much/too little profit/etc)

I'm guessing you're in charge of helping them with implementation or fabrication right? Because the theory/idea/design parts of it are solely the responsibility of their academic supervisor. At least that's how it works in my field.

As far as what I like from people in the field, it's probably great to communicate clearly what you CAN make and what alternatives exist. It's usually great to have it outlined right away, so they can be used in design parameters. I think what you've thought up is great, but it's a good assumption you'll be useful to grounding the student to the real world, because people can come up with a lot of impractical designs for a number of reasons.

I think universally, letting the student know the direction of the industry's also helpful since their academic supervisor may be pretty far removed from the actual field.


I work in logistics, so it is more of a data gathering, modelling and improvement suggestion kind of project than making something physical. Though the general theme you suggested of showing what already exists in the area and keeping them grounded in what is possible still hold true.

The students studied something like supply chain management as master subject. Can't recall the exact phrase without the text in front of me.

On February 16 2018 06:17 Artisreal wrote:
Tell them that rewriting is easier than to craft the perfect sentence right from the start.
At one point the thesis might not be finished, but it's ready to be handed in.


Good advice but that is more on the academic side of the thesis. I might get questions on that part as well I assume.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-15 21:57:50
February 15 2018 21:56 GMT
#186454
Mmh. Without further information I'll just throw don't thoughts in.

Regarding data the important part is to gather as much useful data with as few a tries possible.
Your student won't get everything needed on the first try and probably not with the fifth email exchange.
Paramount is mutual interest in the goal of why you guys do the data gathering. So he (I assume) won't be afraid to ask if he inevitably forgets something.

Defining and reshaping the goal together, or at least agreement during the decision making process is nice for you so you'll get something out of the project even if goals are shifted.

Ooh of course, data quality defines model effectiveness.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 15 2018 22:37 GMT
#186455
atreides i love u

getting dinner with andy tomorrow~
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2844 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-16 03:09:47
February 16 2018 03:09 GMT
#186456
On February 16 2018 05:58 Plansix wrote:
The courier costing money is sort of a silly hold over. A second courier costing money make sense. But not the first one.


Wot

Economy management is an aspect of the game of dota two, and was an aspect of the game of dota. I do not understand your argument that it is an awkward hold-over from bygone times.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 16 2018 05:14 GMT
#186457
On February 16 2018 12:09 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2018 05:58 Plansix wrote:
The courier costing money is sort of a silly hold over. A second courier costing money make sense. But not the first one.


Wot

Economy management is an aspect of the game of dota two, and was an aspect of the game of dota. I do not understand your argument that it is an awkward hold-over from bygone times.

Because its bad game design. It is money sink that forces one player to sack gold to get a must have team item. There is no decision making in the average game of dota, it just one person buys it, normally the person who is most worried no one else will. There is no management except at the highest levels and it minimal impact on the outcome of any given match.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-16 05:56:26
February 16 2018 05:54 GMT
#186458
i understand p6 pov
theres always gonna be a courier, its a no brainer
so why not make it free to ensure everygame starts with a cour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-16 06:41:32
February 16 2018 06:40 GMT
#186459
Yeah, the only games where you're not going to have a courier currently are either where the entire team is a troll (and probably in lpq) or games with brand new players.

I don't think that's 100% a reason to give it away for free, but I can see the argument. The economic scarcity thing would make sense if it hadn't just been reduced to 50 gold lol. You can start with a branch, a null talisman, and a courier right now.

Also : twitch apparently has more average monthly viewers than CNN now.

Also also : I hit ancient[0], shortly after going back to playing exclusively support (and if that's taken, offlane), after swimming around like 3.6k->3.8k for a while trying to play core.
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
February 16 2018 07:01 GMT
#186460
Playing with friends that bring the average mmr down to ancient-legend level where people think they are topson and can actually play qw meteor hammer invoker make me want to uninstall dota sometimes.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
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