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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
And this conflict is not new or anything. In traditional sports there were and still are conflicts between the people who own the venues/promote the events and the players. The same thing happens in music between event runners and the bands playing. Its a push and pull between the two. I think 20 qualifiers games and being forced to go through EG and Secret is a little much. The events could cut that down and invite a few teams. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
Organisers should realize that it is not amount or quality of matches that sell. It is cosmetics. | ||
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
give me dem hats yo! https://ioneelev8.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/the-church-hat.jpg | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
Who knows hard to say when you aren't behind the scene. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On February 17 2015 23:03 dismiss wrote: But that's just how competitions work? You still give a lot of exposure to your sponsors, which is what they pay for. Tournaments being really topheavy is a PR thing, players definitely split the price pools, etc. It's common place and somewhat openly discussed in games such as poker. There also was a "scandal" about it back in SC2 and people basically went all ESPORTS. how much does this happen in the more mainstream sports? | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 18 2015 00:10 ahswtini wrote: how much does this happen in the more mainstream sports? Prize pool splitting is pretty much prohibited traditional sports with any money behind them. Players are even prohibited from betting on the sport they play in, even if they are not betting on games they are playing in. The trust of the audience that the players are always playing to win is super important. Anyone remember when those two Superior Moba teams decided to split the pool and went ARAM during one of the matches at MLG? And MLG denied them the prize money for violating the rules. Good times. | ||
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dismiss
United Kingdom3341 Posts
On February 18 2015 00:10 ahswtini wrote: how much does this happen in the more mainstream sports? It probably doesn't happen that much in mainstream sports because salaries and sponsorship deals far outweight price pools. If it does, people won't advertise it publically, so it's hard to say exactly. But I'm sure there's a fair amount of it going on in competitions where steady income hasn't outpaced tournament earnings. It being illegal won't stop many people, especially since it's a MAD deal. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On February 18 2015 00:51 teddyoojo wrote: i still do believe there are people with integrity That's cute. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On February 17 2015 20:39 Shaella wrote: ya damn those players coming out of the NEL that have massively changed the face of comp doto like Arteezy, PPD, and Sumail, fuck giving up and coming players like USH a chance amirite. you should keep shitposting, it's less embarassing for you than when you actually try lmao | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On February 18 2015 01:39 Erasme wrote: you should keep shitposting, it's less embarassing for you than when you actually try lmao Its not like hes wrong - its just the teams that most players come up with suck, because NA doesn't ever come up with good support players and 0 good captains besides PPD cause he was HIGHSCHOOL KICKER ! WOW SUCH TEAM PLAYER! | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On February 18 2015 00:35 dismiss wrote: It probably doesn't happen that much in mainstream sports because salaries and sponsorship deals far outweight price pools. If it does, people won't advertise it publically, so it's hard to say exactly. But I'm sure there's a fair amount of it going on in competitions where steady income hasn't outpaced tournament earnings. It being illegal won't stop many people, especially since it's a MAD deal. it happens all the time in tournament poker, which may be a more appropriate analogy to esports than football, soccer, etc. since it's players competing for a prize and not about salary, sponsors etc. it's even allowed by most organizations, here is an excerpt about it from Pokerstars: If all remaining players in a tournament agree to split the prize money according to a formula of their choosing, PokerStars will accept this agreement, and alter the originally published tourney payouts to reflect the numbers agreed to in the deal. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On February 18 2015 01:52 crms wrote: it happens all the time in tournament poker, which may be a more appropriate analogy to esports than football, soccer, etc. since it's players competing for a prize and not about salary, sponsors etc. it's even allowed by most organizations, here is an excerpt about it from Pokerstars: If all remaining players in a tournament agree to split the prize money according to a formula of their choosing, PokerStars will accept this agreement, and alter the originally published tourney payouts to reflect the numbers agreed to in the deal. But how are we supposed to be considered an ESPORT if we are comparing ourselves to poker something that is definitely NOT a sport checkmate just like chess HAHA which also ISNT a sport TOUCHDOWN | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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goody153
44283 Posts
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
On February 18 2015 00:51 teddyoojo wrote: i still do believe there are people with integrity Reporting for duty. Erasme change back to PL plz. Its much harder to find your subtle flames now. | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
On February 18 2015 01:52 crms wrote: it happens all the time in tournament poker, which may be a more appropriate analogy to esports than football, soccer, etc. since it's players competing for a prize and not about salary, sponsors etc. it's even allowed by most organizations, here is an excerpt about it from Pokerstars: If all remaining players in a tournament agree to split the prize money according to a formula of their choosing, PokerStars will accept this agreement, and alter the originally published tourney payouts to reflect the numbers agreed to in the deal. while that might be the case, the fact that anyone is even remotely okay with it, is not a competitor. fuck that shit. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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