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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 28 2015 19:05 GMT
#38961
On May 29 2015 04:02 SKC wrote:
It wasn't all of NYC. He had somewhere else he could play, but the backup computer didn't have Dota 2 updated.

You are correct,t that was hyperbolic. It was just for Time Warner, who apparently was his provider. However, it wasn't within in control and he still would have had to change locations.

How long was the delay as a whole? I heard it was around 40 minutes.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 19:09:05
May 28 2015 19:06 GMT
#38962
On May 29 2015 04:05 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:02 SKC wrote:
It wasn't all of NYC. He had somewhere else he could play, but the backup computer didn't have Dota 2 updated.

You are correct,t that was hyperbolic. It was just for Time Warner, who apparently was his provider. However, it wasn't within in control and he still would have had to change locations.

How long was the delay as a whole? I heard it was around 40 minutes.

According to liquid calendar game was starting at 10:00 my time and now it's 12:06 and the game still isn't up.

On May 29 2015 04:05 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:04 crms wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:01 Plansix wrote:
On May 29 2015 03:58 crms wrote:
On May 29 2015 03:48 Plansix wrote:
On May 29 2015 03:44 tehh4ck3r wrote:
rofl reddit is so mad about MSS

They will get over it. It seems like a problem that was completely out of the players control and he is trying to fix it.

No this is pretty stupid and it makes it worse when their player manager make retarded excuses.

This whole situation shows how fucking amateur hour player management is in 'esports'. You have a 10 million dollar tournament and you have no back-ups in place for the biggest event of the year for your players to resolve quite possibly the most common online issue, ISP fuck-ups and connectivity.

His backup PC didn't have dota updated
He had no reservation setup with the 900 local LAN centers in his area in the event his ISP pooped
No backup location with Friends/Family established prior

I think any good manager would have the above established for their players prior to this event, but then again I'm not some dipshit kid who thinks putting 'team manager, thoughts are my own' on their twitter makes them worth a shit.

All NYC lost internet for a period of time. Plz explain to me how he is supposed to correct this issue. I am very interested in your response. Should players be required to have two internet connections with two separate providers? If they are in a single provider area, should they just move?


Only Time Warner in certain areas lost connectivity. If literally every LAN center and every friend and family member nearby uses the same provider he was pretty boned, but I highly doubt that. You can tell none of this was ever even considered though considering his back-up laptop didn't even have dota updated. I would have most certainly researched LAN center options in his area with different ISPs options if I was a manager prior to the event.

Yeah some NADOTA T2 team's manager isn't going to do that though


that's fine and I wouldn't be so hard on him if he didn't make stupid whine posts on twitter about how HE WONT APOLOGIZE for these delays because there is NOTHING HE COULD HAVE DONE!!!

He fucked up, he needs to accept it and move forward.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 28 2015 19:08 GMT
#38963
The delay is 2 hours, the rules explicitly state that defloss is to be given after 20 minutes but as usual this is just Canada cup with better production instead of the International
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44294 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 19:14:28
May 28 2015 19:12 GMT
#38964
alright me and my brother brought food for a while .. what did i miss ? did the series start already ?

edit:

fuck i think i missed game 1 of nar vs TT

On May 29 2015 03:17 ChunderBoy wrote:
NA qualifiers arent even worth watching
dude naga isnt even hard, shes actually one of the easier heroes, and her micro is fairly basic and just shiftqueueing commands

i'm sorry for not being good at dota mate
this is a quote
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
May 28 2015 19:12 GMT
#38965
who even follows rules
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 28 2015 19:14 GMT
#38966
Imagine if riot were running these qualifiers
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
May 28 2015 19:15 GMT
#38967
i mean if riot were running these qualifiers they would be on lan and this wouldn't be an issue
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#38968
superiortournament
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
May 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#38969
valve is also rly bad with their timing for anything
who are they to enforce these rules
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 28 2015 19:16 GMT
#38970
Honestly the decision taken was pretty damn reasonable. This wasn't a case of MSS just fucking off to the gym or whatever; this was a case of an ISP going down over a wide area in one of the biggest cities on the planet. It's not something where you can say "obviously you should have thought of that," and yet because there were a few things MSS and NAR could have done better, the team gets a fairly serious penalty. It doesn't turn the series into NAR versus Time Warner Cable and it doesn't set a precedent of games being delayed for hours with nothing more than a shrug from the organizers. Going fully one way or the other would have been an awful idea, and so they made an excellent compromise.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
May 28 2015 19:19 GMT
#38971
no reserve time is fine. thats like my parents grounding me and telling me to go to my room
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 28 2015 19:24 GMT
#38972
I like the ruling, the admin made the right call. The game is better off played with a disadvantage for NAR than handing out a DQ because Time Warner sucks.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
May 28 2015 19:25 GMT
#38973
On May 29 2015 04:12 ChunderBoy wrote:
who even follows rules


why u such a rebel, be a good boy.

morality test.

if a female friend of yours has a boyfriend but she wants to mess around with you, what would you guys do? assuming shes very attractive and you are not friends with her boyfriend. be honest.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44294 Posts
May 28 2015 19:26 GMT
#38974
oh game 1 just started nvmnd .. i missed nothing

On May 29 2015 04:19 ChunderBoy wrote:
no reserve time is fine. thats like my parents grounding me and telling me to go to my room

i don't remember ever being grounded by my parents
this is a quote
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 28 2015 19:26 GMT
#38975
If BF is into that kind of thing, sure. If not, no.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 19:29:22
May 28 2015 19:28 GMT
#38976
how is nar even a team theyre so bad ROFL
rly wish nar wouldve gotten defloss so this wouldnt be a game
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
May 28 2015 19:29 GMT
#38977
On May 29 2015 04:25 HighTimeDotA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:12 ChunderBoy wrote:
who even follows rules


why u such a rebel, be a good boy.

morality test.

if a female friend of yours has a boyfriend but she wants to mess around with you, what would you guys do? assuming shes very attractive and you are not friends with her boyfriend. be honest.

As long as there is a potential for a story that "SLOMO RUINED A RELATIONSHIP ON PURPOSE" I will keep my hands off her.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 28 2015 19:30 GMT
#38978
On May 29 2015 04:25 HighTimeDotA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:12 ChunderBoy wrote:
who even follows rules


why u such a rebel, be a good boy.

morality test.

if a female friend of yours has a boyfriend but she wants to mess around with you, what would you guys do? assuming shes very attractive and you are not friends with her boyfriend. be honest.

probably not
depends on their relationship and what type of friend she is
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 28 2015 19:31 GMT
#38979
yeah if u care for her as a friend dont
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
May 28 2015 19:31 GMT
#38980
On May 29 2015 00:01 crms wrote:
ho ho HA HA, isn't even a twitch meme though it's just a generic but dank dota meme. I thought the rules were about twitch emotes, like Kappa, Keepo, etc., Memes like Scumbag Steve and the like (pics with words) were covered in the TL ten commandments. This whole area is pretty grey and subject to individual moderator discretion.

Please reference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/423487-twitch-emotes-and-their-place-on-tl#1

Thank you all for your cooperation.

Which is why we haven't moderated it yet

The one time cynic got warned was not because of that despite it being in his post, and the warn on ahswtini was because it was a low content post that literally just said "hoho haha".
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