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ahswtini
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TheEmulator
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On December 27 2014 19:26 ahswtini wrote: watched the rock last night, wat a movie and wat a soundtrack You mean the one with Sean Connerey? | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On December 27 2014 07:03 andyrau wrote: I don't think the characters in a majority of miyazaki's films are that much more developed they're just vessels for plot development and representations of whatever motfis he wishes to convey children chasing lost voices was interesting in terms of shinkai trying to miyazaki without the magic of youthful innocence and a concise coherent plot I still enjoyed it for what it was though No, the characters are everything in Miyazaki. Them being children is the most important part as that is the best representations of emotions without implied more adult actions of it. I enjoyed Children Chasing Lost Voices towards the end, but the first half was brutally dragged on. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On December 27 2014 11:03 icystorage wrote: ![[image loading]](http://www.kirainet.com/images/naruto3.jpg) i believe its the one with the swirly thing in the middle isnt uzumaki whirlwind or something | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Yeah Nicholas Cage and Sean connery | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
spiral or whirlwind. and get this. uzumaki naruto, the character, loves ramen (which likely has uzumaki naruto inside of it). o shit. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On December 26 2014 06:40 Torte de Lini wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/942dff8.jpg) Here you go pony perverts Yo. These are disgusting. Just FYI | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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andyrau
13015 Posts
On December 27 2014 20:16 Torte de Lini wrote: No, the characters are everything in Miyazaki. Them being children is the most important part as that is the best representations of emotions without implied more adult actions of it. I enjoyed Children Chasing Lost Voices towards the end, but the first half was brutally dragged on. they are everything simply because miyazaki uses them as vehicles for symbolism and weaves them into his narrative is there any miyazaki film where the protags have internal personal conflicts magnified and resolved or have any sort of significant growth? his characters are developed in the film just enough to keep his audience invested; they are mostly static the rest of the time. but obviously that's not his focus so it's not a big deal tbh | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On December 28 2014 03:48 andyrau wrote: they are everything simply because miyazaki uses them as vehicles for symbolism and weaves them into his narrative is there any miyazaki film where the protags have internal personal conflicts magnified and resolved or have any sort of significant growth? his characters are developed in the film just enough to keep his audience invested; they are mostly static the rest of the time. but obviously that's not his focus so it's not a big deal tbh What? Yes? Isn't that the whole plot of Spirited Away? Isn't it similar also for Howl's Moving Castle? I mean, aren't those exactly underlying showcase of the character where they faulted in many ways and, towards the end of the movie, resolve them through a form of rite of passage? | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On December 28 2014 05:12 Torte de Lini wrote: What? Yes? Isn't that the whole plot of Spirited Away? Isn't it similar also for Howl's Moving Castle? I mean, aren't those exactly underlying showcase of the character where they faulted in many ways and, towards the end of the movie, resolve them through a form of rite of passage? I saw both of these movies and can't remember there being audio at all | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On December 28 2014 05:58 Torte de Lini wrote: wat Actually, I can't remember there being visuals either. Maybe you're thinking of something else? Or I watched it with it muted and while looking away... | ||
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andyrau
13015 Posts
On December 28 2014 05:12 Torte de Lini wrote: What? Yes? Isn't that the whole plot of Spirited Away? Isn't it similar also for Howl's Moving Castle? I mean, aren't those exactly underlying showcase of the character where they faulted in many ways and, towards the end of the movie, resolve them through a form of rite of passage? spirited away? the entire movie is a plot centered around a coming of age theme and the beginning of adolescence but in my opinion the core of her character is the same as it is in the end. it's kind of ridiculous to say that she matured a lot if we never really had a baseline of her immaturity before the events of the movie for comparison. all her core values were clearly there, it was just the environment that enabled her to manifest them in a positive manner i guess what i mean to say is that her entire character is moved by the plot and not the other way around, which should be the key to a strong character centered plot. i feel howl's moving castle is an exception rather than the norm, sophie's character changes the plot a lot more. if you take his other famous work eg laputa, monoke, porco rosso, totoro, etc the characters are only fleshed out enough to enable the audience to form an attachment to them. the rest of the film's focus is narrative, something which Miyazaki excels at. obv I'm not saying he doesn't give a shit about his characters, but his attention is given to the plot and his characters second. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Howl's Moving Castle's Setting and Spirited Away are both portrayals of this. We can throw Ponyo which, in my opinion, is a slightly weaker version of the themes and sentiments shown in Spirited Away (still loved it). | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
Like let it give mana to allies | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On December 28 2014 09:54 trinxified wrote: anyone else hope Lion's mana drain work like Pugna's life drain? Like let it give mana to allies then i can't laugh at my manaless teammate plebs | ||
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