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On December 27 2014 01:02 goody153 wrote:

Was this the movie with + Show Spoiler [sad scene] + ?



Well yeah they are different films. However when i watched Garden of Words i feels like 45 minutes is too short for everything that happened and when i watched it i had already watched 5cm per sec so my expectation was pretty different.

On December 27 2014 01:59 Targe wrote:
there is literally nothing to be gained from having people unmuted, you can click on allies to check cooldowns/items and you have the minimap

In Shinkai's latest: Garden of Words, it's just a mosaic of art. Although I prefer his previous film's arch, ending and even basic plot. Garden of Words comes with a lot of sense of reach, emotionally and even physically. He flips the significance of rain that one would be accustom to from writers like Fitzgerald and enamors it with a zen-like perpetuation between the characters, who are so internally distraught and insecure, chaotic in their ageless resemblance to what we all feel at one point or another.

Similar to any Cinderella story, the analogous shoe fitting the foot is filled with a separated backstory of an older women who's lost her ability to stand, to walk and a mature boy, who's had an aimless understanding of what the next step in his life will be, with who will he be making shoes for.

I haven't really taken a good look at Garden of Words to be frank. I feel it doesn't have as much depth as 5CM Per Second, but it compensates with a lot of new elements, albeit typical story from Shinkai.

As I stated, it is greatly contrasting to Miyazaki's work which is a lot more appealing to a wider group, imaginative and quite frankly: unique in its own respect (and there are a lot of aspects of Miyazaki that cannot be replicated) . But I think Shinkai manages to achieve some much in so little time (45 minutes) to create a basic storyline, sensible characters and implied profoundness from the very start. In comparison to fully-fledged films, Shinkai's characters are barely outlined beyond being encountered or pestered by an internal problem then interacting with their other "half" so to speak (as they either share the same problem or mutually fit in one another's dysfunction). Their backstory is barely known, small tidbits to provide further analysis or hypotheticals of why they are the way they are (for example: the boy is very mature for his age because his mother is very immature, sometimes irresponsible; to the point of living her own life) while the young female adult is a bit of the contrary: caught on the wrong side of high-school predicaments and is now finding herself independent, lost and unable to fill the void of her time, significance, self.

The music is evidently the same sort of type and I've posted a lot of the piano work previously. It's bittersweet and maybe even a bit reminiscent of his last film.

Overall, this one has its moments, especially during the beginning which I draw a lot of inspiration from as I find weather to be a very good tool to depict moods you want to set. The tempo of rainy seasons to depict the characters' overall moods and perspective on the world is especially enjoyed. Rainy Season seems to have a fluid, completely relaxed and near lazy flow of dialogue, progression while the dry and heated season that follows shows a lot of rapidity in scenes and growth between the characters as well as, unfortunately, the lead-up to the coming learning of one another (when he finds out her story/situation). Then, as they resolve the issue: it rains once more and the tanka is answered.

Realizing what I wrote, the movie is very much more symbolic than realized. The use of personal space symbolized by umbrellas, the distance of their, imperfect selves, to the quiet and sudden at-peace minds they have when shielded by the rain, their morning obligations (school) and hidden from the world thanks to the garden. The symbolism of shoes is evident, though not clear-cut. That shoes are meant to symbolize their ability to walk, to go farther: that they protect you and give you steps. When Takao is making shoes for her, he's confessing a love and need to protect her, protect his "world's secret". It's romantic and tragic that he is so-shortsighted when he always looks to the skies and horizon to see hope and aspire for more.

Just a beautiful film. I wish he made more damn films.

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