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Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 07:53:23
September 27 2014 07:51 GMT
#1861
So many "experts" here...

Give this patch a couple of weeks, let the pros adapt to it, and people will drop this ridiculuous bandwagon of hate (and join the bandwagon of "OMG BEST PATCH EVER" instead).
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 27 2014 07:52 GMT
#1862
On September 27 2014 16:43 Fleetfeet wrote:
I'm actually pretty excited for the "Patch Impressions" for 6.82, once some of the upfront negativity at violent changes dies down. It'll be interesting to hear how certain players feel about the patch once they actually start to get a feel for it.

I don't get why everyone's doing dumb shit and then blaming the patch for it.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
September 27 2014 07:56 GMT
#1863
On September 27 2014 16:51 Zexion wrote:
So many "experts" here...

Give this patch a couple of weeks, let the pros adapt to it, and people will drop this ridiculuous bandwagon of hate (and join the bandwagon of "OMG BEST PATCH EVER" instead).


It's always the same.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
September 27 2014 08:13 GMT
#1864
i thought this was the best patch ever when PL was remade to be a good hero with way better lategame potential.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
September 27 2014 08:17 GMT
#1865
So many hipsters saying this gold/xp bounty is fine "we know doto better, patch always looks bad but always delivers, you're so dumb". Can you please stop with this? It's just some arrogant nonsense, no need to be a pro to acknowledge the numbers are insane. This new aoe bounty is just plain stupid and will be heavily reduced before long, you can't totally change the gold distribution behaviour without totally messing the power curve of almost all heroes.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 08:27:22
September 27 2014 08:25 GMT
#1866
Intentional feed is now a strategy. What a crappy patch. Pubs are even more of a coin toss than before, and premades all circle around endless farming.

And who deludes themselves into defending the gold/exp change?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 27 2014 08:31 GMT
#1867
What do you guys think is the best way to level Bloodseeker?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
abar
Profile Joined May 2011
10 Posts
September 27 2014 08:39 GMT
#1868
Did you also notice, there will be no Diretide this year? Volvo said, they are focusing on something brand new, instead of Diretide.
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
September 27 2014 08:42 GMT
#1869
Bounty just needs some tweeks.
noire
Profile Joined July 2012
Turkey213 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 08:46:18
September 27 2014 08:45 GMT
#1870
This patch is good lovely map huge changes
İstanbul
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
September 27 2014 08:49 GMT
#1871
On September 27 2014 17:39 abar wrote:
Did you also notice, there will be no Diretide this year? Volvo said, they are focusing on something brand new, instead of Diretide.


My guess is that they are preparing some top notch, valve quality, fun custom maps for the workshop.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 27 2014 08:59 GMT
#1872
On September 27 2014 17:39 abar wrote:
Did you also notice, there will be no Diretide this year? Volvo said, they are focusing on something brand new, instead of Diretide.

There's this moon festival or something. People are submitting workshop stuff for it. Also, they're definitely preparing the port to Source 2 and the full support of custom maps, that's definitely the colossal changes for next year that they announced in the blog post.
super gg
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-27 09:14:58
September 27 2014 09:03 GMT
#1873
How excited should we be for Source 2?

***

Oh more anecdata: just played with dual roaming supports and we fucking destroyed them, it was like 32-2 at some point. Ended up 56-18 because they had Void and Tiny and breaking highground was a little hard AND one of our carries started going YOLO (mostly that last part). If it weren't for that they never would have come back into it at all. If you can call trading kills with us for the last ten minutes but ending with only two one of our towers down and 1/3 of our kill score "coming back into it."

But they did have some levels and some items and it was *possible* but we were winning because we fucking dominated them from the start and we stayed winning because the dumb shit was brief. It does matter.

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Also: VIVA LA NEW PICK MODE
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
TechSc2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands554 Posts
September 27 2014 09:15 GMT
#1874
On September 27 2014 17:25 Catch]22 wrote:
Intentional feed is now a strategy. What a crappy patch. Pubs are even more of a coin toss than before, and premades all circle around endless farming.

And who deludes themselves into defending the gold/exp change?


Playing good is now acctually a strategy, what an amazing patch. Pubs are even more a skill game then a coin toss and premades stomp everyone in the first 25 minutes anyway.

And who deludes themselves into complaining about the gold/exp change?

Dude chill out. I played 10 games in the current patch and i haven't won a game that i should not win, and i didn't lose a game that i shouldn't lose.

People just really want to throw their bad plays into the patch and saying they still should have the possibility to play bad, get killed and still win because they got a lucky early start.

The EXP/GOLD change does not punish good play, it punishes bad play. Is it too high? maybe, but lets wait it out for a week or two to see how pro games look like, because i still believe that they play better then 95% of the pub players and make the better calls. If they have no problem with the patch in two weeks, then nobody else should either
Twitch.tv/TechGTV / Twitter.com/TechGTV
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
September 27 2014 09:15 GMT
#1875
On September 27 2014 17:17 nojok wrote:
So many hipsters saying this gold/xp bounty is fine "we know doto better, patch always looks bad but always delivers, you're so dumb". Can you please stop with this? It's just some arrogant nonsense, no need to be a pro to acknowledge the numbers are insane. This new aoe bounty is just plain stupid and will be heavily reduced before long, you can't totally change the gold distribution behaviour without totally messing the power curve of almost all heroes.

Probably because there's a lot of people going "omg we got teamwiped 5-0 with a 30k advantage and then lost wtf" or "omg my team was up 20k but then I yolo dove and fed for no gain then we lost wtf?" like they should be able to just do whatever the fuck they want if they have a lead and anything else is casualizing the game for bad players. There's a common trend of people thinking that winning the early/mid game means they should win the late game by default, as well people acting like it's easy to take fights when you're down 10k+ gold/exp in the mid game.

Maybe the numbers are too high. Early game strats shouldn't be made unviable, for example (note that I'm not saying they are or aren't, I don't know). But that's something to be tweaked, and I don't think that this was just a kneejerk reaction to the deathball meta or an attempt to casualize the game like some people are suggesting.
rip
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
September 27 2014 09:17 GMT
#1876
Just finished my first new pl game and not only he's imba but also pretty fun.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
September 27 2014 09:19 GMT
#1877
I haven't had a chance to play him but he seems pretty fun. Most annoying thing by far is that when he starts his charge he chases you even through blink etc.
rip
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2014 09:28 GMT
#1878
Well, I just got 6k from one kill and immediately went up 4 levels in a teamfight + got more farm then there carry when I was behind by a pretty noticeable amount.

This patch is pretty stupid.
TechSc2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands554 Posts
September 27 2014 09:31 GMT
#1879
On September 27 2014 18:28 bo1b wrote:
Well, I just got 6k from one kill and immediately went up 4 levels in a teamfight + got more farm then there carry when I was behind by a pretty noticeable amount.

This patch is pretty stupid.


Impossible. There is no amount of networth difference to give you 6K gold from 1 kill. Replay or didn't happen
Twitch.tv/TechGTV / Twitter.com/TechGTV
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 27 2014 09:34 GMT
#1880
Your right, it's one teamfight. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/923781042
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