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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 15:56:26
July 18 2012 15:55 GMT
#14681
On July 18 2012 20:39 Attakijing wrote:
Sick of losing pubs against lycan...who is the best/easiest counter jungling hero?


Whenever I see a Lycan I random for the extra gold, pick up wards, and ward his shit. If I get a hero I know I can destroy a lane with I'll even get 4 wards just to really fuck him over, but I usually just stick with 2 As someone else said, just one set of wards on easy/med camp will fuck him over. It will force him to tank a hard camp, and while he CAN take it and then keep on jungling he'll be on much lower health than usual and if you roam in, it's an ez kill.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 16:11:53
July 18 2012 16:10 GMT
#14682
anyone having problem with match making? my average search time on all 3 severs (W/E/EU) has gone up to 7:30(actual search time is 10-15 mins) and my search range is now start at near max (80% of the bar at least).... wtf is going on?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 16:25:07
July 18 2012 16:24 GMT
#14683
On July 19 2012 01:10 NB wrote:
anyone having problem with match making? my average search time on all 3 severs (W/E/EU) has gone up to 7:30(actual search time is 10-15 mins) and my search range is now start at near max (80% of the bar at least).... wtf is going on?


Valve is having some kind of problem according to an official post I'm too lazy to find the link to again.
Kanaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark658 Posts
July 18 2012 16:25 GMT
#14684
Matchmaking is fucked for me aswell.
Now nothing happens when i press the button, and before i had to wait 15 minutes for a game.
Normal time for me on EU is 2-3 minutes.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 18 2012 16:43 GMT
#14685
On July 19 2012 00:55 Candadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 20:39 Attakijing wrote:
Sick of losing pubs against lycan...who is the best/easiest counter jungling hero?


Whenever I see a Lycan I random for the extra gold, pick up wards, and ward his shit. If I get a hero I know I can destroy a lane with I'll even get 4 wards just to really fuck him over, but I usually just stick with 2 As someone else said, just one set of wards on easy/med camp will fuck him over. It will force him to tank a hard camp, and while he CAN take it and then keep on jungling he'll be on much lower health than usual and if you roam in, it's an ez kill.


This is the best method -_- i was once that lycan in my warded jungle.....
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
July 18 2012 16:50 GMT
#14686
MM seems to think that a good game is 3 good players and 7 complete idiots.

the team that gets 2 wins almost every time. most people in the game suck; out of the last 30 or so games I've played my lanes have been incredibly easy with one exception where I had a bad support against a double high range lane as a morph.

I still crushed the game and won though, when they forgot about me for 20 minutes.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 17:05:18
July 18 2012 17:05 GMT
#14687
PA has to be the most frustrating and the most satisfying hero to play in the pool. Hearing the sound of gushing blood, seeing those red numbers reaching 4 digits, it's wonderful. Then you get 10 hits without a crit and die miserably.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 18 2012 17:18 GMT
#14688
On July 19 2012 02:05 ChrisXIV wrote:
PA has to be the most frustrating and the most satisfying hero to play in the pool. Hearing the sound of gushing blood, seeing those red numbers reaching 4 digits, it's wonderful. Then you get 10 hits without a crit and die miserably.


Absolutely love the model/design <3 and she is always the best hero to play when you have full stack team. Just rush divine to make an exciting game!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 18 2012 17:23 GMT
#14689
On July 18 2012 22:40 r.Evo wrote:
Yeah pretty much this. For every player who makes weak decisions or plays on your team there is a similar one on the enemy team. I had some fun games playing with friends who have a much higher MMR than myself and the games usually end up with having 1-2 fat guys on either side because they abuse the mistakes everyone else makes.

Like my TA
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 18 2012 17:59 GMT
#14690
On July 19 2012 02:23 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 22:40 r.Evo wrote:
Yeah pretty much this. For every player who makes weak decisions or plays on your team there is a similar one on the enemy team. I had some fun games playing with friends who have a much higher MMR than myself and the games usually end up with having 1-2 fat guys on either side because they abuse the mistakes everyone else makes.

Like my TA

like hassy's lycan
best lycan eu i dare to say
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 18 2012 18:10 GMT
#14691
btw... effort of pumping MMR paid off. Im now back to very high mmr ^_^... funny thing: all the games in high mmr are garbage bc its mostly stacked 1 sided while games on high mmr are much better and equal.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 18 2012 18:13 GMT
#14692
Thats how it was in LoL. Best matches were low elo because people sucked and they knew it, and even if people whined they were still so bad it was easy to carry. It was only once you got to mid elo that people started to think they were super hot shit and acted like it, even though they were terrible.

Then high elo just sucked cuz it was either one sided or people trolled.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 18 2012 18:18 GMT
#14693
The GDStudio doing a learn2play http://www.twitch.tv/TheGDStudio
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
July 18 2012 18:25 GMT
#14694
anyone wanna give me pointers on how to beat a sand king in mid when they're using caustic finale and have a bottle?
The aoe on the caustic is so large, and if you get careless and the sk gets like 2-3 creep hits up and you get stunned and they explode you can basically just insta-die. I played against once with huskar, and while i didn't die in lane, i felt like i was getting outfarmed simply because i had to be so careful when the creeps weren't under my tower.

Is there a way to play to beat this? Maybe a hero suggestion?
Writer
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 18 2012 18:28 GMT
#14695
Singsing now with youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/WehSing?feature=watch
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
July 18 2012 18:28 GMT
#14696
Well caustic finale is only a problem if you're a melee hero, so part 1 is to play a ranged hero, and then look for lane control, you can harass him out of the lane pretty easily and if he wants to spend all his time camping in a sand storm then hurray for you
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
July 18 2012 18:31 GMT
#14697
the AOE is massive. as a huskar i couldn't hit creeps without the aoe hitting me. i am watching ehome vs col right now and the invoker was getting hit by it too. i harassed the SK a ton but he had a bottle and got rune control by the caustic pushing the wave out forcing me to stay at the tower or miss exp (also lucky rune spawns). if i go up to harass he can hit a creep that's near dead once and stun me, doing like 400+ dmg in a second. even as a strength hero this really hurt and once he was lvl 6 i found it hard to contest knowing that he could chain ult onto me after a combo like this and kill me
Writer
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 18:39:55
July 18 2012 18:36 GMT
#14698
On July 19 2012 03:25 Kiante wrote:
anyone wanna give me pointers on how to beat a sand king in mid when they're using caustic finale and have a bottle?
The aoe on the caustic is so large, and if you get careless and the sk gets like 2-3 creep hits up and you get stunned and they explode you can basically just insta-die. I played against once with huskar, and while i didn't die in lane, i felt like i was getting outfarmed simply because i had to be so careful when the creeps weren't under my tower.

Is there a way to play to beat this? Maybe a hero suggestion?


Against melee heroes mid you always want to get a good block off first. Having creeps in your favour lets you dominate the melee first few levels. Huskar is a low range hero and not that good mid so I can see how SK simply beats you. True some of the more traditional mids like QoP/Bane/Tinker(Freak can't think of ranged mids). Main problem is going to be rune control and against caustic SK you almost always going to have those issues unless you force him out of lane or have help with runes.

Anyway once you have a hero just remember he can't have sandstorm/stun if he's going caustic which means you can harass him bad level 1/2. That's when you push him out and make him use his regen. After that he either goes risky route and levels up stun without sandstorm or he plays it save and goes sandstorm while being passive in lane. For the former you want to focus on lane control, always keep it in your favour since he'll constantly be pushing with caustic. He can't do anything to do if he has to run up a hill.

On July 19 2012 03:31 Kiante wrote:
the AOE is massive. as a huskar i couldn't hit creeps without the aoe hitting me. i am watching ehome vs col right now and the invoker was getting hit by it too. i harassed the SK a ton but he had a bottle and got rune control by the caustic pushing the wave out forcing me to stay at the tower or miss exp (also lucky rune spawns). if i go up to harass he can hit a creep that's near dead once and stun me, doing like 400+ dmg in a second. even as a strength hero this really hurt and once he was lvl 6 i found it hard to contest knowing that he could chain ult onto me after a combo like this and kill me


Huskar range is pitiful. So you can't really bash things off him. Stun range is really short early levels and going caustic means he's sacrificing his defensive capabilities as well. Crush him early before he can do that combo is my advice. If you can get help to crush him all the better.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 18 2012 18:43 GMT
#14699
Dendi and singsing streaming at the same time (((
WHAT DO?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 18:54:14
July 18 2012 18:51 GMT
#14700
Not many Melee/shortranged heroes can outlane SK mid who goes caustic, Dragon Knight can I think but that is about it.
WriterXiao8~~
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