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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
July 18 2012 19:31 GMT
#14701
On July 19 2012 03:51 Kipsate wrote:
Not many Melee/shortranged heroes can outlane SK mid who goes caustic, Dragon Knight can I think but that is about it.

Lanaya with enough points in refraction, he combos and you don't take damage, and without sandstorm he's squishy. Though it's not exactly outlaning, more breaking even.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 18 2012 19:37 GMT
#14702
On July 19 2012 03:25 Kiante wrote:
anyone wanna give me pointers on how to beat a sand king in mid when they're using caustic finale and have a bottle?
The aoe on the caustic is so large, and if you get careless and the sk gets like 2-3 creep hits up and you get stunned and they explode you can basically just insta-die. I played against once with huskar, and while i didn't die in lane, i felt like i was getting outfarmed simply because i had to be so careful when the creeps weren't under my tower.

Is there a way to play to beat this? Maybe a hero suggestion?

1st of all: call for gank/dual lane if needed. getting 3rd skill simply means that most likely there is 0 point into sand storm. an extra hero to do some rune camp is the best thing to deny his regen

2nd: try to harass him using orb walk/spells (u was huskar) and keep him off the creeps from very level 1.

3rd: aggro the creeps so ally creep and enemy creep will split into 2 layers, gathers at 2 range creeps. this way caustic will have less effect.

4th: give up rune control and pull creep wave near your own tower by over denying
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
July 18 2012 19:44 GMT
#14703

ppl who did not see this.
do it now.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 18 2012 20:20 GMT
#14704
New patch should come soon
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
July 18 2012 20:22 GMT
#14705
On July 19 2012 04:37 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 03:25 Kiante wrote:
anyone wanna give me pointers on how to beat a sand king in mid when they're using caustic finale and have a bottle?
The aoe on the caustic is so large, and if you get careless and the sk gets like 2-3 creep hits up and you get stunned and they explode you can basically just insta-die. I played against once with huskar, and while i didn't die in lane, i felt like i was getting outfarmed simply because i had to be so careful when the creeps weren't under my tower.

Is there a way to play to beat this? Maybe a hero suggestion?

1st of all: call for gank/dual lane if needed. getting 3rd skill simply means that most likely there is 0 point into sand storm. an extra hero to do some rune camp is the best thing to deny his regen

2nd: try to harass him using orb walk/spells (u was huskar) and keep him off the creeps from very level 1.

3rd: aggro the creeps so ally creep and enemy creep will split into 2 layers, gathers at 2 range creeps. this way caustic will have less effect.

4th: give up rune control and pull creep wave near your own tower by over denying

If you are melee or low range this really is the most you can do against a smart SK who goes caustic mid. Even Lanaya won't do great because he could just get a level of sandstorm to burn refraction in lane if he is smart.

Just get a ranged hero or exceptionally tanky hero that can bottle crow and trade harass like DK or anchor smash Tide. You are also probably going to need someone to help you with rune control. Although unconventional you could mess with SK by putting a Dark Seer against him as DS should have the advantage in harass and rune control, you just have to watch out for his level 6 combo.
What does it matter how I loose it?
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 18 2012 20:23 GMT
#14706
Naga is in test client
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
July 18 2012 20:24 GMT
#14707
Holy shit Naga Siren is also insta Captain's Mode?
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
July 18 2012 20:25 GMT
#14708
Yes http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=47046&p=289045#post289045
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
July 18 2012 20:27 GMT
#14709
O'well, Refraction no longer allows for Blink Dagger usage.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 18 2012 20:29 GMT
#14710
Not sure I like the instant CM mode implenting that much.
WriterXiao8~~
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
July 18 2012 20:30 GMT
#14711
Darn, I really liked how impossible it was to kill Lanaya with refraction and blink dagger.
What does it matter how I loose it?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 18 2012 20:35 GMT
#14712
Wonder why they say fixed when they seemed to have added it in last patch. Guess they changed their minds?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 18 2012 20:36 GMT
#14713
they are pushing these heroes into main client -cm simply bc teams require more practice time before the TI2 hit the floor. I think its completely reasonable since majority of these heroes has quite some impact in the current meta game. CK naga NA and soon KoTL/meepo could all change the way people ban/pick, define team play style with some sick signature heroes.

Personally i think having enable them in 'Latest' version of -cm instead of 'tournament' is a better way to solve this but i guess Valve is treating current running tourneys as testing ground for TI2.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
July 18 2012 20:36 GMT
#14714
Well the Rubick restealing resetting cooldown was also a pretty big thing about Rubick. You can now steal Black Holes from Enigma's channeling it and use it on them and steal it again and Black Hole again.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
July 18 2012 20:57 GMT
#14715
On July 19 2012 04:44 Kznn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StpKCQlzSOA&feature=g-all-lik
ppl who did not see this.
do it now.


is that the one where xboct farmed as alchemist for about 40 minutes and then got caught about 6 times and lost them the game?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 18 2012 21:06 GMT
#14716
Yea think so, remember thinking "classic xboct"
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 21:32:28
July 18 2012 21:32 GMT
#14717
Does anything think that this is fucking rigged? XD

[image loading]

Full Drow set: £3.16

Pangolin Shoulders for BH: £0.49

The look on your face when someone gives you an entire set for a hero that you like while giving them one item for a hero that you don't really like: Priceless
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 18 2012 21:36 GMT
#14718
Supply and Demand!
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
July 18 2012 21:37 GMT
#14719
Yeah it seems odd, but at the same time I think the spiked drow set looks bad anyways.
What does it matter how I loose it?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 18 2012 21:50 GMT
#14720
Spiked row looks bad and I don't think many people play drow, you might be one of the only one.
WriterXiao8~~
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