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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 16:23:47
September 02 2014 16:22 GMT
#126881
On September 03 2014 01:20 crms wrote:
someone say magic?

AM owns and I bet he's getting a buff in 6.82 too.

Although him having barely-above-average ms is quite annoying really. I miss his old godly MS and near-instant blink animation.

PS: yes i know he sux hence his incoming buff but having an inbuilt 6s cd blink is hella fun
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 16:26:35
September 02 2014 16:25 GMT
#126882
I think No-tail(fuck his stupid other name, I'm old) said it best "This hero is kinda bullshit because you can do this...WEEEEEEEEEE" and proceed to fly past the enemy teir 3 tower and apply the shiva's debuff to the entire enemy team, then came back right into the laser.

Though firebird has the best auto attack sound in the game.

Edit: Sven also needs love. He is to amazing not to get buffs. Maybe attack speed speed to his warcry or phase.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 02 2014 16:26 GMT
#126883
Don't try that against a sniper is all i have to say.
Also having a great autoattack sound doesn't help having poor range/basedamage/animation
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 02 2014 16:26 GMT
#126884
On September 03 2014 01:26 Sn0_Man wrote:

Also having a great autoattack sound doesn't help having poor range/basedamage/animation


liesz
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
September 02 2014 16:28 GMT
#126885
On September 03 2014 01:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
Don't try that against a sniper is all i have to say.
Also having a great autoattack sound doesn't help having poor range/basedamage/animation


I was about to stay teh same think, Sniper owns it.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
September 02 2014 16:30 GMT
#126886
i want sf to be buffed that heroes literally the best designed hero in dota
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 16:34:23
September 02 2014 16:31 GMT
#126887
SF's getting a prettiness buff, the most important kind

E: wtb doom nerf too lol
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 02 2014 16:38 GMT
#126888
On September 03 2014 01:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
SF's getting a prettiness buff, the most important kind

E: wtb doom nerf too lol

I could deal with less of the dumb melee creep that removes a hero from the fight for a short period of time. Plus I am tired of explaining level death to my friends.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
September 02 2014 16:40 GMT
#126889
On September 03 2014 01:38 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 01:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
SF's getting a prettiness buff, the most important kind

E: wtb doom nerf too lol

I could deal with less of the dumb melee creep that removes a hero from the fight for a short period of time. Plus I am tired of explaining level death to my friends.

Are you talking about void?
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 02 2014 16:40 GMT
#126890
6.82

Doom: removed doom
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 02 2014 16:45 GMT
#126891
I'm just bored with void and the heroes who abilities require people to hold really really still being in the meta. I just miss the era of puck when big plays were exciting and people could do stuff even when they are dream coiled.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
September 02 2014 16:46 GMT
#126892
On September 03 2014 01:45 Plansix wrote:
I'm just bored with void and the heroes who abilities require people to hold really really still being in the meta. I just miss the era of puck when big plays were exciting and people could do stuff even when they are dream coiled.

Yeah, this game is really filled with anti-fun elemnts. if only we had a game wehre this didn't exist and they really designed it around maximizing fun.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 02 2014 16:47 GMT
#126893
On September 03 2014 01:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
SF's getting a prettiness buff, the most important kind

E: wtb doom nerf too lol

Doom's going to stop being a problem if Brew, Void, and Tinker leave the meta. He's so good right now because you're guaranteed to have an excellent Doom target on the enemy team.
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
September 02 2014 16:50 GMT
#126894
Ya I think I heard this meta described as the anticarry meta and for good reason.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
September 02 2014 16:50 GMT
#126895
On September 03 2014 01:47 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 01:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
SF's getting a prettiness buff, the most important kind

E: wtb doom nerf too lol

Doom's going to stop being a problem if Brew, Void, and Tinker leave the meta. He's so good right now because you're guaranteed to have an excellent Doom target on the enemy team.

No, he would still be a problem.

Maybe he would be fine if laning was more punishing, but right now no one offensive trilanes and offlane is way too easy.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 02 2014 16:51 GMT
#126896
If the enemy team has 5 heroes they have a good doom target dude.

The issue is that there are so many powerful teamfight controllers (brew + tide especially) that require bkb's from the opponents, then you have heroes like doom/void who punish you for buying a BKB (although void actually kinda doesn't hurt in chrono if you can get ur bkb off).

Carry doom is hella underwhelming tho dunno why alliance are running it right now.
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
September 02 2014 16:52 GMT
#126897
wait waitwaitwaitwaitwait - you guys put Weaver in the same catagory as Spectre? Weaver as an afk farming hero?

Weaver is the most balls in hero in the fucking game. That's his fucking thing, he dives mega hard and then uses his ulti to backtrack back to safety.

nerf these fuckers:

Doom, Void

buff please:

Lina, CM, NS
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 16:54:38
September 02 2014 16:53 GMT
#126898
Honeslty, there isn't a situation where dooming a hero is bad. Its always going to be good to take out a hero out of a fight, even if its a tanky carry. The reason doom wasn't played prior to this patch was A: Laning reasons B: his fucking huge gold boost he has now.

Mainly A though. If he had the laning freedom he has now he would have been played in every other patch.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 02 2014 16:54 GMT
#126899
Lina buffs would make me very happy. Movespeed please.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 02 2014 16:54 GMT
#126900
On September 03 2014 01:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
If the enemy team has 5 heroes they have a good doom target dude.

The issue is that there are so many powerful teamfight controllers (brew + tide especially) that require bkb's from the opponents, then you have heroes like doom/void who punish you for buying a BKB (although void actually kinda doesn't hurt in chrono if you can get ur bkb off).

Carry doom is hella underwhelming tho dunno why alliance are running it right now.

Dooming a support is really not what you want to be doing, even if it's sometimes necessary. There were a lot of bulky carries at one point, making Doom a much lower-priority spell. The way the game is right now, it's totally legitimate to go Aghs/Refresher on Doom, because there are multiple good Doom targets. Doing that in earlier patches would get you scorned. It's totally about the high prevalence of Doom targets in the current meta.
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