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suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
September 02 2014 01:31 GMT
#126761
standin here in mid lane playin invoker in my supreme hat and air force 1s
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 02 2014 01:37 GMT
#126762
I'm trying to remember. Were there any every-pub-game heroes from this time last year? I'm pretty sure there weren't, but I'm not certain. The Ember port and subsequent figuring-out came later, the Earth Spirit fiasco happened at roughly the same time, Phoenix and Terrorblade and LC weren't added yet... maybe NP? I know he was omnipresent in professional play (or at the very least extremely prevalent).
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
September 02 2014 01:39 GMT
#126763
On September 02 2014 10:37 Acritter wrote:
I'm trying to remember. Were there any every-pub-game heroes from this time last year? I'm pretty sure there weren't, but I'm not certain. The Ember port and subsequent figuring-out came later, the Earth Spirit fiasco happened at roughly the same time, Phoenix and Terrorblade and LC weren't added yet... maybe NP? I know he was omnipresent in professional play (or at the very least extremely prevalent).


space cow after he got buffed or something i think
Flash Fan!
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 01:41:57
September 02 2014 01:39 GMT
#126764
Yeah, but this time last year there wasn't a patch yet either. So SB hadn't been buffed yet.

Weaver was pretty common. Really common, in fact, along with Alch. I remember aiming towards drafting those two a lot of the time. Were they bad enough to be considered cancer? They didn't strike me as that, but who knows, they could have been. And OD was lane-winning mid, but I don't think he just showed up in every AP game as well.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
12ozSkilletDota
Profile Joined June 2014
United States76 Posts
September 02 2014 01:54 GMT
#126765
On September 02 2014 10:37 Acritter wrote:
I'm trying to remember. Were there any every-pub-game heroes from this time last year? I'm pretty sure there weren't, but I'm not certain. The Ember port and subsequent figuring-out came later, the Earth Spirit fiasco happened at roughly the same time, Phoenix and Terrorblade and LC weren't added yet... maybe NP? I know he was omnipresent in professional play (or at the very least extremely prevalent).


Crystal maiden was in like every game post TI last year
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 01:57:42
September 02 2014 01:57 GMT
#126766
ROFL ok according to screenshots on test serv the fucking sign is on a 120 second cooldown and u can only have one at a time on the map
holy fucking shit people crying about that being a game breaking factor
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
September 02 2014 02:19 GMT
#126767
On September 02 2014 10:57 FinestHour wrote:
ROFL ok according to screenshots on test serv the fucking sign is on a 120 second cooldown and u can only have one at a time on the map
holy fucking shit people crying about that being a game breaking factor


Its ruining my dota experience man, absolutely crushing my ability to enjoy the game, it actually made me cry at how much its ruining my experience.
Flash Fan!
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
September 02 2014 02:27 GMT
#126768
Moon festival incoming

Also re techies signage, I don't like the idea of it but I don't think it's going to affect anything so w/e.
I would rather it was something like you could attach it to a mine and when that mine explodes on your face it pops up as an ironic warning or something
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 02 2014 02:32 GMT
#126769
just think of the sign as a buff to techies k?
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 03:12:03
September 02 2014 03:09 GMT
#126770
On September 02 2014 10:37 Acritter wrote:
I'm trying to remember. Were there any every-pub-game heroes from this time last year? I'm pretty sure there weren't, but I'm not certain. The Ember port and subsequent figuring-out came later, the Earth Spirit fiasco happened at roughly the same time, Phoenix and Terrorblade and LC weren't added yet... maybe NP? I know he was omnipresent in professional play (or at the very least extremely prevalent).


Ummmm, no last TI had that ever so wonderful 'don't even bother going to the offlane you can get more in the jungle no matter what' meta. And then in pubs after that it was Huskar with the new Berserker's Blood, Treant was also stupidly strong at this point as well, and Spirit Breaker was broken as shit. Oh and OD couldn't lose mid at all unless it was Razor or Viper.

After that (6.79) we had Free pathing Brood, the beginning of the return of lycan, Imbavoker, and Bristleback got buffed to the point of nearly unkillable.

Every patch has a few. This one is just Void and a handful of others.

Prophet has always been a bitch though. Hence why he was excluded.

Also as a reminder, 6.79 was also when every single player on both teams would get Midas. Literally the 5 position support would jungle up and get a Midas whenever they could.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 03:53:00
September 02 2014 03:19 GMT
#126771
On September 02 2014 12:09 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 10:37 Acritter wrote:
I'm trying to remember. Were there any every-pub-game heroes from this time last year? I'm pretty sure there weren't, but I'm not certain. The Ember port and subsequent figuring-out came later, the Earth Spirit fiasco happened at roughly the same time, Phoenix and Terrorblade and LC weren't added yet... maybe NP? I know he was omnipresent in professional play (or at the very least extremely prevalent).


Ummmm, no last TI had that ever so wonderful 'don't even bother going to the offlane you can get more in the jungle no matter what' meta. And then in pubs after that it was Huskar with the new Berserker's Blood, Treant was also stupidly strong at this point as well, and Spirit Breaker was broken as shit. Oh and OD couldn't lose mid at all unless it was Razor or Viper.

After that (6.79) we had Free pathing Brood, the beginning of the return of lycan, Imbavoker, and Bristleback got buffed to the point of nearly unkillable.

Every patch has a few. This one is just Void and a handful of others.

Prophet has always been a bitch though. Hence why he was excluded.

Also as a reminder, 6.79 was also when every single player on both teams would get Midas. Literally the 5 position support would jungle up and get a Midas whenever they could.

This time of year, mind. I'm pretty sure some of those weren't even around September of last year, given that the next patch didn't happen until October. So everything you're saying about 6.79 is right out the window.

The issue about the offlane isn't a hero deal. Huskar was definitely a problem, gotta agree there. Especially with the unintended Ghost Scepter interaction. Tree was actually weaker at that exact point in time, if memory serves. Living Armor was a lot worse, and he wasn't PPD-tier yet. OD could also lose against Kunkka, but he was pretty strong. I acknowledged that in an above post. Anything that really dominated pubs outside of Huskar?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2799 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 03:23:31
September 02 2014 03:22 GMT
#126772
I remember tons of FotM picks from various stages of the game, but they all seem to go through both significant nerfs and people just getting burned out on them, so they fade from relevance and you forget they were even a thing. KotL + PL was huge, OD mid was really really common before deny nerfs among other things, CK + wisp was always a pair where you really hoped they were a duo that knew what the fuck they were doing, a ton of heroes (Terrorblade, broodmama, release centaur) saw what felt like spikes in usage until they were toned back down...

I am noticing that the tinker/void pickers in these games are far far more likely to blame the entire rest of the team for losing than any other FotM picks though. I've had so many void games where he's useless in lane or tinker games where he does nothing but splitpush that result in "gg team is garbagecan peruvians" than anything else. I haven't met a nice void picker yet.

But who cares, because fuck that hero. I'd honestly rather play against it than with it, it's a really shit pub hero imo.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 03:24:06
September 02 2014 03:23 GMT
#126773
On September 02 2014 12:19 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 12:09 LeLoup wrote:
On September 02 2014 10:37 Acritter wrote:
I'm trying to remember. Were there any every-pub-game heroes from this time last year? I'm pretty sure there weren't, but I'm not certain. The Ember port and subsequent figuring-out came later, the Earth Spirit fiasco happened at roughly the same time, Phoenix and Terrorblade and LC weren't added yet... maybe NP? I know he was omnipresent in professional play (or at the very least extremely prevalent).


Ummmm, no last TI had that ever so wonderful 'don't even bother going to the offlane you can get more in the jungle no matter what' meta. And then in pubs after that it was Huskar with the new Berserker's Blood, Treant was also stupidly strong at this point as well, and Spirit Breaker was broken as shit. Oh and OD couldn't lose mid at all unless it was Razor or Viper.

After that (6.79) we had Free pathing Brood, the beginning of the return of lycan, Imbavoker, and Bristleback got buffed to the point of nearly unkillable.

Every patch has a few. This one is just Void and a handful of others.

Prophet has always been a bitch though. Hence why he was excluded.

Also as a reminder, 6.79 was also when every single player on both teams would get Midas. Literally the 5 position support would jungle up and get a Midas whenever they could.

This time of year, mind. I'm pretty sure some of those weren't even around September of last year, given that the next patch didn't happen until October. So everything you're saying about 6.79 is right out the window.

Want to try again?


I gave you two lists, one from 6.78 (the TI3 patch), the other from 6.79 (the patch a month or so after TI)

I mean reading is hard and all, but try to keep up.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 02 2014 03:53 GMT
#126774
On September 02 2014 12:23 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 12:19 Acritter wrote:
On September 02 2014 12:09 LeLoup wrote:
On September 02 2014 10:37 Acritter wrote:
I'm trying to remember. Were there any every-pub-game heroes from this time last year? I'm pretty sure there weren't, but I'm not certain. The Ember port and subsequent figuring-out came later, the Earth Spirit fiasco happened at roughly the same time, Phoenix and Terrorblade and LC weren't added yet... maybe NP? I know he was omnipresent in professional play (or at the very least extremely prevalent).


Ummmm, no last TI had that ever so wonderful 'don't even bother going to the offlane you can get more in the jungle no matter what' meta. And then in pubs after that it was Huskar with the new Berserker's Blood, Treant was also stupidly strong at this point as well, and Spirit Breaker was broken as shit. Oh and OD couldn't lose mid at all unless it was Razor or Viper.

After that (6.79) we had Free pathing Brood, the beginning of the return of lycan, Imbavoker, and Bristleback got buffed to the point of nearly unkillable.

Every patch has a few. This one is just Void and a handful of others.

Prophet has always been a bitch though. Hence why he was excluded.

Also as a reminder, 6.79 was also when every single player on both teams would get Midas. Literally the 5 position support would jungle up and get a Midas whenever they could.

This time of year, mind. I'm pretty sure some of those weren't even around September of last year, given that the next patch didn't happen until October. So everything you're saying about 6.79 is right out the window.

Want to try again?


I gave you two lists, one from 6.78 (the TI3 patch), the other from 6.79 (the patch a month or so after TI)

I mean reading is hard and all, but try to keep up.

Sorry, I was coaching a team to victory while I was editing.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 05:22:45
September 02 2014 05:21 GMT
#126775
How was huskar interaction with ghost scepter unintended? You could orb walk in it for ages with all orb based heroes.

Whoah there with the flames jinxie girl. No need to get your panties in a bunch now.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 02 2014 05:39 GMT
#126776
"I'm drinking a beer guys. Its a smirnoff ice." - arteezy 2014
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
September 02 2014 05:40 GMT
#126777
i know im late to the party but lmfao idk how you could confuse the bear with lycan
i mean one has red haste shit flowing and runs with a gallop, whereas the bear is fat and runs with an awkward gait
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12132 Posts
September 02 2014 05:46 GMT
#126778
On September 02 2014 14:40 andyrau wrote:
i know im late to the party but lmfao idk how you could confuse the bear with lycan
i mean one has red haste shit flowing and runs with a gallop, whereas the bear is fat and runs with an awkward gait


There is a set for the bear that looks a lot like Lycan.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
September 02 2014 05:58 GMT
#126779
On September 02 2014 14:46 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 14:40 andyrau wrote:
i know im late to the party but lmfao idk how you could confuse the bear with lycan
i mean one has red haste shit flowing and runs with a gallop, whereas the bear is fat and runs with an awkward gait


There is a set for the bear that looks a lot like Lycan.

Was it the red one where the bear looks a badger ?

yeah i was confused with that once and took like 3 seconds before i realized that was a bear .. unless you mean something else and i am also terrible at distinguishing lol
this is a quote
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
September 02 2014 06:01 GMT
#126780
Yup it's that very set they're complaining about cause the bear looks like lycan in his ult form or so they say.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
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