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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 01 2014 22:56 GMT
#126721
On September 02 2014 07:53 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 06:57 idonthinksobro wrote:
On September 02 2014 06:55 Shaella wrote:
dude you're taking this way too seriously.


no it sets a shitty precedent. The current cosmetic situation is already fucked up, giving extra abilties to a player is just too much.

Its the slippery slope of dota. Next its going to be supports being allowed to vote. Carrys are going to be able to marry anyone, including a jungle creep. Its literally the end of Esports as we know it. The fabric of small town dota life will be destroyed and then what will be the back bone of America.

I am calling Fox News right now and telling them about what Obama has done to dota.


Fucking supports should be sent back to Russia am I rite capka3m
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 01 2014 23:07 GMT
#126722
First they are going to want the vote, soon after they are going to move to have wards be free and everyone gets one. They they will want free last hits too.

This sign thing that techies is getting is going is the beginning of "fun" being used to ruin our dota lifestyle. Its an assault on our values.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 01 2014 23:09 GMT
#126723
Soon everyone'll have a free blink dagger and town portal scrolls won't cost anything and Moscow 5 will keep the same roster for longer than six months.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 01 2014 23:11 GMT
#126724
I liked reddit's solution. Just make the sign a normal Techies skill and make the arcana sign look prettier. Techies is such a wacky hero that I don't think anybody would mind if one of his skills was purely cosmetic and didn't have a real effect.

Also, on the slippery slope, there's already the diretide coal item that you can use in a normal game to possible get an advantage. It was even bugged for a while and throwing coal triggered aftershock.
super gg
SirFloppu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia19 Posts
September 01 2014 23:14 GMT
#126725
People are really overreacting to cosmetics?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 01 2014 23:16 GMT
#126726
people got tired of bitching about no patch so they have to find something else to bitch about
just lil bitches
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
September 01 2014 23:19 GMT
#126727
in about 21 hours they will update their blog page for the 6.82 patchnotes

in about 48 hours they will update their blog for abyssal underlord.

in about 72 hours we will get the patch.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 23:24:28
September 01 2014 23:19 GMT
#126728
On September 02 2014 08:14 SirFloppu wrote:
People are really overreacting to cosmetics?



Its pretty standard. Someone will find some thing that changes the way something looks and everyone will freak out and be like "It changes EVERYTHING". Then people talk about ethics, the "spirit" of the game and other intangible things that they can hang their hat on because they can't find a real argument. Or they will argue that people will become completely dumbfounded by the sign and just DC rather than have to suffer through looking at it. Meanwhile the other side goes "dude its a fucking sign. You could just put down a real mine and not warn someone it was there. Or say "you guys should be careful in your jungle."

Then it comes out and no one gives a shit. But right now its an assault on the very foundation of dota. Everyone is an old man screaming "who moved my cheese! Get off my lawn with your signs."

Or IceIceIce saves up coal for like 8 months to kill S4 in the 1v1 mid joke event for no money or anything that matters.

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 01 2014 23:23 GMT
#126729
just because i dont express my dislike of all hats that go beyond changing models often on this forum doesnt mean im only doing it now because of techies bandwagon hate
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
September 01 2014 23:24 GMT
#126730
or people complaining about shadow hunter nyx because somehow they become too retarded to tell it's nyx when he has that set equipped
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 23:27:28
September 01 2014 23:27 GMT
#126731
On September 02 2014 08:24 Skullflower wrote:
or people complaining about shadow hunter nyx because somehow they become too retarded to tell it's nyx when he has that set equipped

I think the best part is that of all the rampant bullshit that is in Dota 2, its is a cosmetic set that fucks them up. There are 5 heroes on the enemy team and one of them has to be nyx, but still they blame the set because "its confusing".
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
September 01 2014 23:35 GMT
#126732
On September 02 2014 08:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 08:24 Skullflower wrote:
or people complaining about shadow hunter nyx because somehow they become too retarded to tell it's nyx when he has that set equipped

I think the best part is that of all the rampant bullshit that is in Dota 2, its is a cosmetic set that fucks them up. There are 5 heroes on the enemy team and one of them has to be nyx, but still they blame the set because "its confusing".


it is a problem if you can't tell immediatly what hero you are playing against, the new cosmetic for lone druid looks too similiar to one lycan skin. It is not obvious if you are just glimpsing if it is lone druids bear or lycan.

And yes, it is important that you can identify heros in a splitsecond. It might be very obvious if you look at it in detail, but it isn't ingame in a teamfight, when a lot of shit is going on at the same time.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 01 2014 23:36 GMT
#126733
cant tell if ur against lone druid or lycan just cuz of the skin

trust me if thats what ur problem with the game is its not the game that has the problem
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 01 2014 23:37 GMT
#126734
On September 02 2014 08:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 08:24 Skullflower wrote:
or people complaining about shadow hunter nyx because somehow they become too retarded to tell it's nyx when he has that set equipped

I think the best part is that of all the rampant bullshit that is in Dota 2, its is a cosmetic set that fucks them up. There are 5 heroes on the enemy team and one of them has to be nyx, but still they blame the set because "its confusing".

I buy cosmetics because this game is pay2win. Literally impossible to die if the enemy can't tell what hero you're playing.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
September 01 2014 23:38 GMT
#126735
On September 02 2014 08:19 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 08:14 SirFloppu wrote:
People are really overreacting to cosmetics?



Its pretty standard. Someone will find some thing that changes the way something looks and everyone will freak out and be like "It changes EVERYTHING". Then people talk about ethics, the "spirit" of the game and other intangible things that they can hang their hat on because they can't find a real argument. Or they will argue that people will become completely dumbfounded by the sign and just DC rather than have to suffer through looking at it. Meanwhile the other side goes "dude its a fucking sign. You could just put down a real mine and not warn someone it was there. Or say "you guys should be careful in your jungle."

Then it comes out and no one gives a shit. But right now its an assault on the very foundation of dota. Everyone is an old man screaming "who moved my cheese! Get off my lawn with your signs."

Or IceIceIce saves up coal for like 8 months to kill S4 in the 1v1 mid joke event for no money or anything that matters.


Yo.
I didn't say anything before 'cause I hoped there would be at least some people that would appreciate the issue at hand. Losing hope here.
The Techies thing is a major problem, since it actually creates valid confusion. You can say it's nothing to cut people's heads off for (it sure as hell isn't), but I find it a fact that buying said arcana set gives you a tangible advantage over not having it.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 01 2014 23:40 GMT
#126736
Vendetta makes Nyx invisible, so the whole argument is moot.

And I don't know about this Lycan, lone Druid thing. I mean one they both have to be on the same team and the Lycan is a wolf man that runs super fast. And the other is a fucking bear.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
September 01 2014 23:43 GMT
#126737
On September 02 2014 08:35 idonthinksobro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 08:27 Plansix wrote:
On September 02 2014 08:24 Skullflower wrote:
or people complaining about shadow hunter nyx because somehow they become too retarded to tell it's nyx when he has that set equipped

I think the best part is that of all the rampant bullshit that is in Dota 2, its is a cosmetic set that fucks them up. There are 5 heroes on the enemy team and one of them has to be nyx, but still they blame the set because "its confusing".


it is a problem if you can't tell immediatly what hero you are playing against, the new cosmetic for lone druid looks too similiar to one lycan skin. It is not obvious if you are just glimpsing if it is lone druids bear or lycan.

And yes, it is important that you can identify heros in a splitsecond. It might be very obvious if you look at it in detail, but it isn't ingame in a teamfight, when a lot of shit is going on at the same time.


do you mix up dk and silencer too
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 23:45:18
September 01 2014 23:44 GMT
#126738
On September 02 2014 08:38 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 08:19 Plansix wrote:
On September 02 2014 08:14 SirFloppu wrote:
People are really overreacting to cosmetics?



Its pretty standard. Someone will find some thing that changes the way something looks and everyone will freak out and be like "It changes EVERYTHING". Then people talk about ethics, the "spirit" of the game and other intangible things that they can hang their hat on because they can't find a real argument. Or they will argue that people will become completely dumbfounded by the sign and just DC rather than have to suffer through looking at it. Meanwhile the other side goes "dude its a fucking sign. You could just put down a real mine and not warn someone it was there. Or say "you guys should be careful in your jungle."

Then it comes out and no one gives a shit. But right now its an assault on the very foundation of dota. Everyone is an old man screaming "who moved my cheese! Get off my lawn with your signs."

Or IceIceIce saves up coal for like 8 months to kill S4 in the 1v1 mid joke event for no money or anything that matters.


Yo.
I didn't say anything before 'cause I hoped there would be at least some people that would appreciate the issue at hand. Losing hope here.
The Techies thing is a major problem, since it actually creates valid confusion. You can say it's nothing to cut people's heads off for (it sure as hell isn't), but I find it a fact that buying said arcana set gives you a tangible advantage over not having it.

What advantage? Of you put down the sign, the enemy team knows there is the potential for a mine to be there. Just like every other square inch of the map. The only this it says is "techie was hear recently" which you should be worried about anyways.

Literally pay to lose. I could just put a remote mine there instead and not tell anyone. The only thing is does is tell you techie was more likely to put down a mine here.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 23:47:49
September 01 2014 23:44 GMT
#126739
[image loading]

this picture is not even moving and it is already not very clear, now imagine they just come out of fog of war and you have 0.5 seconds to decided if you want to use your grip or not.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2bexam/when_cosmetics_affect_gameplay/
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-01 23:49:04
September 01 2014 23:45 GMT
#126740
On September 02 2014 08:40 Plansix wrote:
Literally pay to lose. I could just put a remote mine there instead and not tell anyone. The only thing is does is tell you techie was more likely to put down a mine here.

Aye, except you may not want to buy an early gem to check.

On September 02 2014 08:44 idonthinksobro wrote:
this picture is not even moving and it is already not very clear, now imagine they just come out of fog of war and you have 0.5 seconds to decided if you want to use your grip or not.

Aye, except one is a bear and the other has a name over the health bar. I mean that pic alone doesn't show what the issue is exactly.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
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