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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
December 29 2011 09:17 GMT
#1241
Viper is my new favorite hero - squishy as hell, but high DPS and insane harassment.

Concerning the harassment: Manually activating Poison Attack and choosing an enemy hero as the target doesn't draw creep aggro - is it supposed to be like this?
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
December 29 2011 09:28 GMT
#1242
On December 29 2011 18:17 ChrisXIV wrote:
Viper is my new favorite hero - squishy as hell, but high DPS and insane harassment.

Concerning the harassment: Manually activating Poison Attack and choosing an enemy hero as the target doesn't draw creep aggro - is it supposed to be like this?


Yes, it's called orb walking and works with other heroes like Trax or Huskar.
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
December 29 2011 09:37 GMT
#1243
I will also repost it here if you don't see it in another topic

Can someone explain me why is blink dagger so good on Puck, why is it the core item in his build? I mean, its alway good to blink but you already have orb so idk. Can someone explain me a little bit more in detail?
NEXUS6
Profile Joined July 2011
United States413 Posts
December 29 2011 09:48 GMT
#1244
So after having the beta for a few weeks it seems like you either have the crazy Asian/Russian on your team and you win, or you don't and you lose.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
December 29 2011 10:17 GMT
#1245
to me it seems more like you have the russian who flames all game and goes 1-14 and you lose the game.....
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
December 29 2011 10:24 GMT
#1246
On December 29 2011 18:37 thOr6136 wrote:
I will also repost it here if you don't see it in another topic

Can someone explain me why is blink dagger so good on Puck, why is it the core item in his build? I mean, its alway good to blink but you already have orb so idk. Can someone explain me a little bit more in detail?

Many reasons,

1 - To initiate, blink in, ultamite, silence, orb and then phase shift and orb out with taking minimal damage. Then rejoin the fight with everyone else.
2 - To catch up with people running away with more ease
3 - To have insane escaping mechanism, making him very hard to kill. As you can phase shift, wait the 3 seconds for Dagger to be usable then dagger out (of course orb can be used for the same thing but that has a cooldown and chances are you would have already used it in a fight or such :D).

One of my fave puck builds to pump stomp for fun, is Euls, Force staff and blink dagger. Makes puck so insanely hard to kill :D.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
myti
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland43 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 10:38:30
December 29 2011 10:33 GMT
#1247
On December 29 2011 19:17 cilinder007 wrote:
to me it seems more like you have the russian who flames all game and goes 1-14 and you lose the game.....

to me it seems like 9/10 of players are russian and 8 of them have fucked my mother


On December 29 2011 18:37 thOr6136 wrote:
Can someone explain me why is blink dagger so good on Puck, why is it the core item in his build? I mean, its alway good to blink but you already have orb so idk. Can someone explain me a little bit more in detail?


you blink in, silence, ulti, orb, phase shift, phase shift, jaunt and use sheepstick.
if you use orb to jump in you wont have escape mechanism, and int hero in the middle of enemy team isnt usually gonna last long
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
December 29 2011 10:46 GMT
#1248
plus when u orb it's not instant so u can't catch as many people in silence
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 12:01:43
December 29 2011 12:01 GMT
#1249
Great answers, ty guys !
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 00:42:23
December 30 2011 00:42 GMT
#1250
Looks like EG is scrimming against Bulba's team (or a team with bulba on it) on stream right now
it's my first day
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 30 2011 02:34 GMT
#1251
I fucking hate stupid players. I'm fine with new players, I'm fine with people trying to learn. What I hate is just fucking stupidity. Prime example? Huskar on my team who goes 0-9 within 5 minutes because he keeps running into Lich/AM to deny (of which he still fails to do) and he just gets his shit wrecked. His final score at the end was 2-18. Over half of our teams deaths.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
December 30 2011 03:57 GMT
#1252
Sounds like a boss.
Jieun <3
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 30 2011 04:05 GMT
#1253
On December 30 2011 12:57 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Sounds like a boss.


Damn straight.

Such a baws that the very coding of the game was the issue of his score, not himself. I mean, how baws can one man be?
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 06:42:39
December 30 2011 06:42 GMT
#1254
On December 30 2011 11:34 Fruscainte wrote:
I fucking hate stupid players. I'm fine with new players, I'm fine with people trying to learn. What I hate is just fucking stupidity. Prime example? Huskar on my team who goes 0-9 within 5 minutes because he keeps running into Lich/AM to deny (of which he still fails to do) and he just gets his shit wrecked. His final score at the end was 2-18. Over half of our teams deaths.


sounds like a legit strat...i remember there was this pro in vietnam who invented this strat....forgot the name though, but here is a picture
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 01:11:39
December 31 2011 00:59 GMT
#1255
Edit: Rage post.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
myti
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland43 Posts
December 31 2011 09:50 GMT
#1256
On December 30 2011 11:34 Fruscainte wrote:
I fucking hate stupid players. I'm fine with new players, I'm fine with people trying to learn. What I hate is just fucking stupidity. Prime example? Huskar on my team who goes 0-9 within 5 minutes because he keeps running into Lich/AM to deny (of which he still fails to do) and he just gets his shit wrecked. His final score at the end was 2-18. Over half of our teams deaths.

in one of my first games we had enigma who demanded to solo mid. he used black hole to farm creeps and his score was 1/19 after 40 mins. then he complained that his hero is shit and his ultimate is useless (he black holed 2 guys that had BKB on), raged for a while and swore to "never play this shit game again".

There will always be these kinds of players, if you hate them you'll just end up raging and becoming a dick to everyone else.
These are pub games. in closed beta. i laugh at them in my head but there's no need for bm.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
January 01 2012 00:47 GMT
#1257
On December 31 2011 18:50 myti wrote:
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On December 30 2011 11:34 Fruscainte wrote:
I fucking hate stupid players. I'm fine with new players, I'm fine with people trying to learn. What I hate is just fucking stupidity. Prime example? Huskar on my team who goes 0-9 within 5 minutes because he keeps running into Lich/AM to deny (of which he still fails to do) and he just gets his shit wrecked. His final score at the end was 2-18. Over half of our teams deaths.

in one of my first games we had enigma who demanded to solo mid. he used black hole to farm creeps and his score was 1/19 after 40 mins. then he complained that his hero is shit and his ultimate is useless (he black holed 2 guys that had BKB on), raged for a while and swore to "never play this shit game again".

There will always be these kinds of players, if you hate them you'll just end up raging and becoming a dick to everyone else.
These are pub games. in closed beta. i laugh at them in my head but there's no need for bm.


Doesn't black hole go through bkb?
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
January 01 2012 01:11 GMT
#1258
On January 01 2012 09:47 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 18:50 myti wrote:
On December 30 2011 11:34 Fruscainte wrote:
I fucking hate stupid players. I'm fine with new players, I'm fine with people trying to learn. What I hate is just fucking stupidity. Prime example? Huskar on my team who goes 0-9 within 5 minutes because he keeps running into Lich/AM to deny (of which he still fails to do) and he just gets his shit wrecked. His final score at the end was 2-18. Over half of our teams deaths.

in one of my first games we had enigma who demanded to solo mid. he used black hole to farm creeps and his score was 1/19 after 40 mins. then he complained that his hero is shit and his ultimate is useless (he black holed 2 guys that had BKB on), raged for a while and swore to "never play this shit game again".

There will always be these kinds of players, if you hate them you'll just end up raging and becoming a dick to everyone else.
These are pub games. in closed beta. i laugh at them in my head but there's no need for bm.


Doesn't black hole go through bkb?


It does. Maybe the dude thought it would do insane damage or something and ulti'd without teammates around.
I know where my towel is.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 05:51:33
January 02 2012 05:46 GMT
#1259
Re-posting myself from Simple Questions, Simple Answers. I figured some people might have an interest in watching Chinese DotA 1 matches, but might not be sure how (or might have trouble with pplive cuz its retarded).

On January 02 2012 14:40 TheYango wrote:
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On January 02 2012 14:19 storm44 wrote:
So I'm trying to watch more vods of pro games and the only site I know so far is joindota.com and there is only like 1 per day and no new ones up for now. Could anyone help me find other sites like this, and if there are sites of replays of pro games that I could download that would be awesome too.

Are you interested in just DotA 2 or DotA 1 as well? Does it matter whether or not you can understand the commentary?

First off, don't forget you can find replays through the in-game client. From the "Watch" tab, you can select "Recent Games", and from there, search for either tournament games specifically (though most of those are cast on JoinDotA), or for games from a specific player.

For DotA 1 (and I apologize if this is not helpful to you--though I figured some other people might like this information anyway):

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota - not necessarily the place to find streams, but they keep goot tabs on when live events happen. Also can try to watch through the direct Chinese links to matches, but from my experience, pplive is fairly finicky if you're watching from the US, so this is not very reliable. Be careful that they have a bad habit of spoilering results in their GosuBets column (which I HATE, so I try to get the times for matches before they happen).

http://www.youtube.com/user/carl14706 - not really updated pro matches, but has 5 old 2009 videos subtitled, as well as the Dendi solo mid guide. Worth watching for someone interested in pro games.

http://www.own3d.tv/blond
and
http://www.justin.tv/blond_analizator - Russian streamer that restreams and records most recent major Chinese DotA 1 matches. This is generally how I choose to watch live DotA 1 matches, as it's probably the easiest way for someone outside of China to watch. I usually try to catch VoDs elsewhere, but that's because I can understand the Chinese commentary, and prefer to watch the direct VoDs because of it, rather than those from a restream.

http://www.youtube.com/user/lovecoqu - Youtube re-upload of Chinese DotA youku videos. All of these can be found directly on Youku (Chinese youtube-ish site, unreliable load times sometimes from the states), and some of them are not necessarily tournament matches. The ones that are though are pretty recognisable though.

Hope this is at least somewhat helpful!


IMO we should have more coverage/LRing for at least some of these events. Definitely some great games recently that are worth watching (iG vs. DK in ECL finals a few days ago was a VERY close game).
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eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
January 02 2012 08:34 GMT
#1260
Anybody know where I can find G-League VODS?
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