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Spicy_Curry
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Itsmedudeman
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ProbeEtPylon
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Ack1027
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It's just my opinion, but I think that Puppey especially and the rest of the team understands that a hero kill is not actually worth all that much early-mid game. Even if you let easy kills get away, sometimes having a safe environment to farm or safely take a tower is actually better for you. Sometimes not finishing a kill forces the wounded hero to walk all the way back to fountain cuz they have no mana or tp mechanic. Especially with the new change where you come back with fullhp/mana this got buffed in a sense. On top of that, one thing that is often overlooked is that you are not rewarded really for going on a hero killing spree, other than the obvious effects of outnumbering the other team. However, if you go on a hero-killing spree and get downed yourself the person who kills you and their team gets bonus gold for ending your streak. Game 2 between Gosu and Na'Vi, that bottom fight showed that even though furion had to buy back, and sa had to use his aegis....it was enough to just win that teamfight due to hero scores being 13-1. Ending kill streaks, and having more time and opportunity on the map [ especially dire side ] is just underrated, because the other team was on average much higher level meaning longer return time. This isn't to say that you should always plan to play from behind or whatever....but Na'Vi is really good at balancing the line or at least playing on that border. They can play any style as we already know, but this is the style that I see from a game like game 2. Edit: Should go without saying but furion owns in this type of strategy environment. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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flamewheel
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Saryph
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
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uNiGNoRe
Germany1115 Posts
On March 15 2012 07:24 dmnum wrote: shadow demon added on test build :O This is even more important imho: - Updated Dota 2 to 6.74 parity | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On March 15 2012 07:28 uNiGNoRe wrote: This is even more important imho: - Updated Dota 2 to 6.74 parity not really, only DS and unexplored regions are the huge changes, rest are balance tweaks. invokers still quite strong simply because of his laning | ||
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Shikyo
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On March 15 2012 07:58 Shikyo wrote: Shadow Demon coming this week? Can someone give me a rundown of him? I actually kind of quit dota before he came out and have actually never played him, what does he exactly do? http://www.playdota.com/heroes/shadow-demon | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 15 2012 07:58 Shikyo wrote: Shadow Demon coming this week? Can someone give me a rundown of him? I actually kind of quit dota before he came out and have actually never played him, what does he exactly do? He is the counter to everything... | ||
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Shikyo
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Kentakky
Sweden1272 Posts
On March 15 2012 08:03 Shikyo wrote: I kind of mean like how do you play as him, what are you supposed to look to do. Is he like a semi-carry? What does he seek to do, isolate a target with a QW combo into ulti and spam E afterwards? What kind of comps would you pick him in? Is he solo mid or support or what? :/ He is one of the best solo mid hero, and goes nuts in midgame provided you know how to play him. He's very good at isolating and killing off a target yes. basically what I do in ganks is E, Force staff close, Q, E(works when banished), W, E, R, E and press the extra skill button to do the damage with ur E and most heroes should be dead here or sooner. Works in many comps I like him with Tide if I had to pick a hero to go along with him. | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
So with the 5th ban being added will we even see him make it into at dota 2 pro match whenever they add him to the tournament client? | ||
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Doomblaze
United States1292 Posts
On March 15 2012 09:27 Xinder wrote: So with the 5th ban being added will we even see him make it into at dota 2 pro match whenever they add him to the tournament client? No we will not =). Its ok, they'll run out of good heros to ban one day, and you'll see some fun ones. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 15 2012 07:22 flamewheel wrote: Just patiently waiting on the Chinese. I think one of the things that stood out after seeing that game is how good the Chinese are at reading the situation and avoiding smoke ganks. Even Na'vi seems to be comparatively poor at that--LightOfHeaven and XBOCT got caught out in smoke ganks that in the context of Chinese games would be overly obvious. On March 15 2012 09:27 Xinder wrote: So with the 5th ban being added will we even see him make it into at dota 2 pro match whenever they add him to the tournament client? That's hard to see, depending on how the DotA 2 metagame evolves with more heroes and the 6.74 changes. Certainly, he's a niche pick currently in DotA 1, and not really worth a ban atm. While he's an oppressive laner, his lack of hard disables hurts him mid-lategame. | ||
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