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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
February 16 2012 21:24 GMT
#2461
On February 17 2012 05:55 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 00:36 Slardar wrote:
Seemed to have a bug or hacker in my last game, wherein I lost control of my hero and it was running around being played. I checke the forums, it could apparently be A) Hacker or B) Latency/ Shift key being stuck and queing multiple commands. Since I fully scanned my computer and found nothing, it looks like it was B.... but I'm still paranoid and don't really know what to do. This has happened before in Heroes of Newerth, where he dropped all my items and killed them, then I found the virus soonafter.


Maybe you disconnected briefly and one of your teammates was using your hero. Sometimes it doesn't unshare control upon reconnect. What did the hero actually do though?

Happened to me yesterday, I think it's just lag. I reconnected to the game and it went away.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 16 2012 21:55 GMT
#2462
This is why MMR reset sucks... picking carry, team line up sucks, still 700 GPM 800 EPM and win ez =_=...

i think i need like 10 games like this before get back to where i were...

[image loading]
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
February 16 2012 22:06 GMT
#2463
ITT

NB talks about mmr reset alone like its fact
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
February 16 2012 22:34 GMT
#2464
I wont speak on the matter if reset is a definite truth but I will just say this; my games have been at least much more random. I had one match where everyone was to a degree much better than I was, to the point where it was probably the most difficult game I have played. Than another game there were brand new players as well.

I have had a more difficult time but it is getting better. It feels different at least, but I would not be able to make any assumptions on that alone.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 16 2012 22:48 GMT
#2465
the mmr reset is just really painful... you either gona pick carry, or look at ur noob team pick 4 carries and forced to pick support

It is the fact that mmr got reset howerver, you can just look at the Epm or GPM of the winning team and tell. Also the number of wards, sentries they buy etc.... right now in my pub games those had been highly reduced compare to pre Feb 14th. A windrunner simply missing all her shackle shots, sniper 1st pick etc... painful to play. last night i even got a premade team where mirana dont even know how to arrow and she used it to farm creeps ~_~
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Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
February 16 2012 22:50 GMT
#2466
So who is the better pubstomping hero in your opinion, N'aix or Dragon Knight? I started dota 2 with a record of 32-16 and now I'm sitting at a pretty 74-73. I really liked where my MMR is at but resets always scare me. Last nights games were definitely different than the previous couple days for certain. The skill level between all the players in the game was vastly different. To the point where I was against a player I know for a fact is vastly superior to me. She was also queuing with 2 other comrades. It just so happened her teammates were the absolute most terrible players I have seen recently so my friend and I won the game handily. My personal experience is pointing me towards the theory that there was an MMR reset. I'll see if I can back it up with any more anecdotal evidence after todays games.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
February 16 2012 22:51 GMT
#2467
Before any sort of "reset" I played against Dendi, twice. I'd still get games against scrubs too. Seemed completely random. And yeah, he kicked the hell out of us lol.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 23:35:26
February 16 2012 23:30 GMT
#2468
On February 17 2012 07:50 Hoban wrote:
So who is the better pubstomping hero in your opinion, N'aix or Dragon Knight? I started dota 2 with a record of 32-16 and now I'm sitting at a pretty 74-73. I really liked where my MMR is at but resets always scare me. Last nights games were definitely different than the previous couple days for certain. The skill level between all the players in the game was vastly different. To the point where I was against a player I know for a fact is vastly superior to me. She was also queuing with 2 other comrades. It just so happened her teammates were the absolute most terrible players I have seen recently so my friend and I won the game handily. My personal experience is pointing me towards the theory that there was an MMR reset. I'll see if I can back it up with any more anecdotal evidence after todays games.

ursa, BS solo mid, huskar, BH... the rest are situational. Some good ganker such as QoP or Tiny if you have a good line up. Support is mainly venom, furion and VS.

I picked naix to counter the chen 1st pick thats all.

edit:
FOUND OUT SHIFT+LEFT CLICK put items in quick buy slot. Make things much faster than dragging shit.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 23:33:14
February 16 2012 23:32 GMT
#2469
Naix is far superior as a pubstomper in my opinion, you can pretty much safely jungle and get a midas quickly, all you need is a competent solo short laner(which can be hard to find), however neither of these picks are excellent pubstompers.

But really, play with friends.
WriterXiao8~~
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
February 16 2012 23:37 GMT
#2470
Pick sniper, farm mana regen and spam your ult all game. Surefire win.
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
February 16 2012 23:47 GMT
#2471
Team FIRE just got sponsored/bought by compLexity gaming, glad to see a solid team pick up such huge support!
IMMvp #1 :)
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 23:48:54
February 16 2012 23:48 GMT
#2472
I like to play with friends but I generally play more games/day then they do. I always hesitate to join MM groupds in the TL channel because I am scared of how noobie other people will find me. So far I haven't had any bad games with premades but it makes me nervous.

I can see BS and ursa as uber pub stomp. I always see BS going 20-4 or something ridiculous. I guess people don't know you can just TP out of rupture.

Team FIRE just got sponsored/bought by compLexity gaming, glad to see a solid team pick up such huge support!


Amazing news! Those guys are awesome!
"I am a leaf on the wind."
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 17 2012 00:09 GMT
#2473
are they a big deal? i have played with FIRE, Water, EGG etc... but have no clue how big they are bc the NA dota scene is almost non existence. Got them while i matched with sponsored players though so they must be at a certain level heh? ~_~

smbody give me a quick lesson on semi-pro dota scene
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kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
February 17 2012 00:17 GMT
#2474
Team Fire = really good.

They won the Infused Cup a couple of weeks ago, defeating Absolute Legends (another top tier team, one of the finest).
They beat AL again in The Premiere League just recently as well. Also currently in the top4 in another tournament (Dota2Replays Brawl, or something like that)

They're just generally in really good form right now, considered one of the top teams in the world atm.
IMMvp #1 :)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 17 2012 00:24 GMT
#2475
Team Fire is like this team that wasn't high tier in Dota 1 I believe, now in Dota 2 they have gone a sick win record or something, they are really good now.
WriterXiao8~~
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
February 17 2012 00:25 GMT
#2476
Their current record is 19-1 i believe. They've been tearing up the competition in everything they play in. Theyre also the team that brought Darkseer into popularity.
Jieun <3
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
February 17 2012 00:36 GMT
#2477
Ahhhh. MMR reset.

*goes back to just picking furion*
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
February 17 2012 00:41 GMT
#2478
On February 17 2012 09:36 lozarian wrote:
Ahhhh. MMR reset.

*goes back to just picking furion*

Source? Things seem pretty normal on my end...
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
February 17 2012 01:25 GMT
#2479
Yeah there's been no reset as far as I can tell.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 17 2012 01:59 GMT
#2480
if you never reach high level MMR ofc u cant tell bc u gona stay the same... im from being matched with EG dignitas etc... to some BR invoker going max E and afk fountain... I also asked most of my friends who on the same elo as mine and they confirmed being matched with horrible players after 14th.

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