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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#2081
well here is what ima do personally to improve dota2 overall:

1/ General concept education: Each time LoL makes a new champion, they make a video teach people how to play it. They explained the skills, introducing basic concept and recommend items which make noobs approach much easier. Same goes to sc2 when it first came out: lot of people wana learn the game so they watched day9 and artosis. There needs to be an education system for the game so people could look at it and play, watch easier. In a way, like Tobi interview with slasher on LO3, LoL did prepared people for DotA2 but it doesnt mean dota2 could cut it.
Valve did have a coaching system in tf2 but it is very very brief and unreliable. They need to man up and do something about this soon else they will have no audience in major tournaments bc no one understand the game.

2/ UI customize: I started to see people on reddit messing with UI but have not seen anything good so far. Clearly the current in game UI sucks and have tons of room to improve. The shop system need a better hotkey scheme (quick buy help a ton btw, i bound my mouse button to quick buy) and there should be an option to custom hotkeys for each heroes. Im currently running QWER but every time i got some heroes like Morph or Puck, things just get messy and annoying.

3/ Remake chat channel system. It is so so so so crucial to have moderated chat room with clan support in such team games. This is the mistake Blizzard made with their Bnet 2.0 and immediately after the release of sc2 they decided to hire design director for a new BNet UI... so far nothing is fixed and the communities still complain.
The steam group system is cool and all but it is not supported IN GAME. you have to shift-tab out which make it sucks.

4/show icefrog real face
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
February 09 2012 12:02 GMT
#2082
On February 09 2012 20:10 NB wrote:
well here is what ima do personally to improve dota2 overall:

1/ General concept education: Each time LoL makes a new champion, they make a video teach people how to play it. They explained the skills, introducing basic concept and recommend items which make noobs approach much easier. Same goes to sc2 when it first came out: lot of people wana learn the game so they watched day9 and artosis. There needs to be an education system for the game so people could look at it and play, watch easier. In a way, like Tobi interview with slasher on LO3, LoL did prepared people for DotA2 but it doesnt mean dota2 could cut it.
Valve did have a coaching system in tf2 but it is very very brief and unreliable. They need to man up and do something about this soon else they will have no audience in major tournaments bc no one understand the game.

2/ UI customize: I started to see people on reddit messing with UI but have not seen anything good so far. Clearly the current in game UI sucks and have tons of room to improve. The shop system need a better hotkey scheme (quick buy help a ton btw, i bound my mouse button to quick buy) and there should be an option to custom hotkeys for each heroes. Im currently running QWER but every time i got some heroes like Morph or Puck, things just get messy and annoying.

3/ Remake chat channel system. It is so so so so crucial to have moderated chat room with clan support in such team games. This is the mistake Blizzard made with their Bnet 2.0 and immediately after the release of sc2 they decided to hire design director for a new BNet UI... so far nothing is fixed and the communities still complain.
The steam group system is cool and all but it is not supported IN GAME. you have to shift-tab out which make it sucks.

4/show icefrog real face


Lol on number 4 haha

i agree with Point 2 n 3, its ok now but it can be better. Hopefully the upcoming list of patches may fix that and hopefully that will make dota 2 more user friendly.

Point 1, yea this is good idea, the videos could be implemented onto the "Learn" section. All i see in tht section is just the heroes and descriptions
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
February 09 2012 12:34 GMT
#2083
You can search Dota "Hero" Guide in google or youtube and find a ton for any hero.

I don't think the UI will ever be customizable. But I am going off of WC3 engine which was impossible if I remember.
if you can believe you can concieve
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
February 09 2012 12:58 GMT
#2084
I think we really need a dedicated QQ thread. If only for my own sake. Actually, I guess the question isn't so much if we need one, it is who do we dedicate such a thread to. My reasoning as to why such a thread is relevant to the game is because emotions in general play a huge impact in Dota. I know for a fact I play 10 times better when I want to prove myself or I know my opponents are very good. One aspect of this is team love/hate. Always raging in chat has a detrimental effect on team moral. When you get ganked in a 1v2 lane when the support refuses to ward and top doesn't call the 2 mias, you feel pretty bad. Then when said top lane starts calling you a feeding noob ect ect it really pisses you off. The hardest part is continually acting cordial through this harassment and focusing on not making mistakes and playing better. The problem is that, at the end of the game, even when you finish really strong and win, you are still really pissed at the stupid antimage calling you a fucking feeding faggot all game long. Hence, the need for a QQ thread to vent your anger/tears/whatever and move on to the next game. This may feel like thinly veiled crying but I am using an example to prove my point. So, what do you all think?
"I am a leaf on the wind."
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
February 09 2012 13:48 GMT
#2085
i saw the dk discussion earlier and have my 2cents to add:
get manta on dk.

3 blue dragons are ldo awesome. and yes, it actually works in dota2.
in dota1 your dragon form got dispelled when you press manta but in dota2 you get the full power blue dragon illus.

also an early soulring is always nice.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 13:55:25
February 09 2012 13:55 GMT
#2086


just remembred this lol, was a good game too.

Also the LoL section has a dedicated QQ thread, I suppose we could use one too?
WriterXiao8~~
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
February 09 2012 14:10 GMT
#2087
Exactly where I got my idea from. Now Shikyo is pretty active on the dota forums as well but we can't really name another QQ thread after him. And "The General QQ Thread for Dota-Related Misgivings" just sounds like a mouthful. On an unrelated note, is anyone aware of the time that the Thursday updates usually hit?
"I am a leaf on the wind."
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
February 09 2012 14:14 GMT
#2088
On February 09 2012 23:10 Hoban wrote:
Exactly where I got my idea from. Now Shikyo is pretty active on the dota forums as well but we can't really name another QQ thread after him. And "The General QQ Thread for Dota-Related Misgivings" just sounds like a mouthful. On an unrelated note, is anyone aware of the time that the Thursday updates usually hit?


for europeans its usually in the night from thursday to friday.
mostly between 2-5am iirc. so that should be between 8-11pm ET.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
February 09 2012 14:17 GMT
#2089
Ok awesome it should be done by the time I wake up! Maybe it is hopeful to expect an update but oh well, hopeful I am. Thank you for the info.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 09 2012 14:24 GMT
#2090
On February 09 2012 23:10 Hoban wrote:
Exactly where I got my idea from. Now Shikyo is pretty active on the dota forums as well but we can't really name another QQ thread after him. And "The General QQ Thread for Dota-Related Misgivings" just sounds like a mouthful. On an unrelated note, is anyone aware of the time that the Thursday updates usually hit?

Aww, and here I was thinking that I could have my name in titles of important threads in 2 seperate forums. Who's accomplished such a feat, anyway?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
February 09 2012 14:42 GMT
#2091
oh at first i thought shikyo? who the fuck is that and why does he deserve his own thread.
but seeing as youre a finn i approve.
every finnish person i have ever met was awesome.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 15:27:28
February 09 2012 15:24 GMT
#2092


Tobi can sing haha, should do some Frank Sinatra next
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 09 2012 15:51 GMT
#2093
On February 09 2012 23:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 23:10 Hoban wrote:
Exactly where I got my idea from. Now Shikyo is pretty active on the dota forums as well but we can't really name another QQ thread after him. And "The General QQ Thread for Dota-Related Misgivings" just sounds like a mouthful. On an unrelated note, is anyone aware of the time that the Thursday updates usually hit?

Aww, and here I was thinking that I could have my name in titles of important threads in 2 seperate forums. Who's accomplished such a feat, anyway?


we are men we do not cry
High Risk Low Reward
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
February 09 2012 16:09 GMT
#2094
On February 10 2012 00:24 Zlasher wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iE-lM_KvjM

Tobi can sing haha, should do some Frank Sinatra next


wow.
this wasnt what i expected to see when i clicked play.
tobi can actually sing.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 09 2012 17:34 GMT
#2095
On February 10 2012 01:09 paschl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 00:24 Zlasher wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iE-lM_KvjM

Tobi can sing haha, should do some Frank Sinatra next


wow.
this wasnt what i expected to see when i clicked play.
tobi can actually sing.

Wow he's really good. I genuinely enjoyed listening to him. Is there any more?
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
February 09 2012 17:36 GMT
#2096
On February 10 2012 02:34 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 01:09 paschl wrote:
On February 10 2012 00:24 Zlasher wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iE-lM_KvjM

Tobi can sing haha, should do some Frank Sinatra next


wow.
this wasnt what i expected to see when i clicked play.
tobi can actually sing.

Wow he's really good. I genuinely enjoyed listening to him. Is there any more?

he sing after broadcasts or between games sometimes, have to look through the vods I guess
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 09 2012 20:50 GMT
#2097
Yeah there was one where he sang the Michael Bolton part of Captain Jack Sparrow the lonely island song, with Synd between Na'Vi's matches haha, that was the first time I heard him sing and I was like what the HELL.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 09 2012 20:51 GMT
#2098
On February 10 2012 05:50 Zlasher wrote:
Yeah there was one where he sang the Michael Bolton part of Captain Jack Sparrow the lonely island song, with Synd between Na'Vi's matches haha, that was the first time I heard him sing and I was like what the HELL.

WriterXiao8~~
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
February 09 2012 21:03 GMT
#2099
On February 10 2012 00:24 Zlasher wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iE-lM_KvjM

Tobi can sing haha, should do some Frank Sinatra next


What we need is a Tobi and Totalbiscuit duet
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
February 09 2012 21:31 GMT
#2100
Man if there was a QQ thread I could fill up like 100 pages of it....
Jieun <3
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