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On February 11 2012 01:49 NB wrote:
i have never been into the english dota scene back in the day... i found out about tobi at the international and read forums where people call him shits etc...
Watched the international.
First thing come to mind: holy shit why sc2 dont have a guy like this? He cast the way the korean BW commentator cast for years. The games even though need analysis, the most part its still a spectator sport. Fire and enthusiasm are needed inside a caster and tbh i have not seen such thing in any sc2 caster. May be once after the moletrap casting boxer nuke in the GSL but thats about it. Everyone think about sc2 as a calculated math game but in fact there are battle happens and screaming/ loud noises are needed to attract low level audience.
This, I think tobi is absolutely perfect as one of the 'faces' of dota 2, his enthusiasm and humor make casts a helluva lot more fun to watch, also im sure it helps to promote dota 2 to new people/people who have no idea what dota is.
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It's great that there's a lot of action in these dota2 tournament games but I found myself losing interest extremely quickly in the navi vs AL games since the games were pretty much decided really early on. The first game AL needed to make the game last as long as they could, but got wrecked as hard as you possibly can be so the game was decided in the first 10 minutes. The second game they were basically breaking even with navi only the lategame of navi was so superior that AL never looked like winning that either.
To me it's a lot more interesting when for the most part teams have some kind of plan for every stage in the game, with these all in strats just used to try get an easy win here and there. Having said that this isn't really indicative of competitive dota gameplay considering how many heroes are removed, which at the same time makes me wonder why people try to use them as an example of how aggressive dota gameplay is.
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On February 11 2012 02:22 rob.au wrote:
It's great that there's a lot of action in these dota2 tournament games but I found myself losing interest extremely quickly in the navi vs AL games since the games were pretty much decided really early on. The first game AL needed to make the game last as long as they could, but got wrecked as hard as you possibly can be so the game was decided in the first 10 minutes. The second game they were basically breaking even with navi only the lategame of navi was so superior that AL never looked like winning that either.
To me it's a lot more interesting when for the most part teams have some kind of plan for every stage in the game, with these all in strats just used to try get an easy win here and there. Having said that this isn't really indicative of competitive dota gameplay considering how many heroes are removed, which at the same time makes me wonder why people try to use them as an example of how aggressive dota gameplay is.
I haven't seen game 1 yet but I found game 2 to be interesting. Even though game 2 was mostly one-sided and the outcome was pretty much ensured (due to late game potential), that didn't make it any less interesting to me. I found the action interesting (two kills a minute). I found it fascinating how a team with Anti-Mage managed to play so aggressively in the early-mid game against a ganking lineup. Overall just watching pro players use non-standard lineups was enjoyable.
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that game surprised me a lot of people dont know about a trick in dota2: quick buy hotkey
I have my quick buy hotkey into one of my mouse button so that before i die, i just spam it and never lose money. In game 2 u could see sven died at 2200 gold which he could bought a blink dagger way way earlier. Same goes to tinker and his BoT which was delayed like 5 mins even though he has enough money several times. Quick buy function much faster than the old 'war3 hotkey all the shops' system if you have a plan on how to build your hero accurately. Hope pros will start using this soon to avoid silly mistakes.
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On February 11 2012 02:22 rob.au wrote:
It's great that there's a lot of action in these dota2 tournament games but I found myself losing interest extremely quickly in the navi vs AL games since the games were pretty much decided really early on. The first game AL needed to make the game last as long as they could, but got wrecked as hard as you possibly can be so the game was decided in the first 10 minutes. The second game they were basically breaking even with navi only the lategame of navi was so superior that AL never looked like winning that either.
To me it's a lot more interesting when for the most part teams have some kind of plan for every stage in the game, with these all in strats just used to try get an easy win here and there. Having said that this isn't really indicative of competitive dota gameplay considering how many heroes are removed, which at the same time makes me wonder why people try to use them as an example of how aggressive dota gameplay is.
Wait until navi plays against an actual good team and not one of those teams that have a short time of domination and then disappear in week
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On February 11 2012 02:48 Durak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 02:22 rob.au wrote:
It's great that there's a lot of action in these dota2 tournament games but I found myself losing interest extremely quickly in the navi vs AL games since the games were pretty much decided really early on. The first game AL needed to make the game last as long as they could, but got wrecked as hard as you possibly can be so the game was decided in the first 10 minutes. The second game they were basically breaking even with navi only the lategame of navi was so superior that AL never looked like winning that either.
To me it's a lot more interesting when for the most part teams have some kind of plan for every stage in the game, with these all in strats just used to try get an easy win here and there. Having said that this isn't really indicative of competitive dota gameplay considering how many heroes are removed, which at the same time makes me wonder why people try to use them as an example of how aggressive dota gameplay is. I haven't seen game 1 yet but I found game 2 to be interesting. Even though game 2 was mostly one-sided and the outcome was pretty much ensured (due to late game potential), that didn't make it any less interesting to me. I found the action interesting (two kills a minute). I found it fascinating how a team with Anti-Mage managed to play so aggressively in the early-mid game against a ganking lineup. Overall just watching pro players use non-standard lineups was enjoyable.
Basically what I was going to say, I also missed game 1. I was rooting for AL so we could have a 3rd game, but the action was just a sheer pleasure to watch disregarding it was forsure over. Just watching them play insanely aggressive with non-stop action all over the place is Dota at it's finest.
@Nb- Will have to fiddle with that quick hotkey, thanks for bringing it up.
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I would have enjoyed that game better if the roles were switched since I thought it was still very obvious navi was winning. I'd give navi a better shot at making a comeback in that situation than AL
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On February 10 2012 12:22 don_kyuhote wrote:Hot_Bid, R1CH, and Antoine getting whooped
well, the chances of a comeback were admittedly slim, but my net did cut out during that game and i ended up with an abandon cause it took 25 minutes coming back up :[
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On February 11 2012 04:01 Slardar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 02:48 Durak wrote:On February 11 2012 02:22 rob.au wrote:
It's great that there's a lot of action in these dota2 tournament games but I found myself losing interest extremely quickly in the navi vs AL games since the games were pretty much decided really early on. The first game AL needed to make the game last as long as they could, but got wrecked as hard as you possibly can be so the game was decided in the first 10 minutes. The second game they were basically breaking even with navi only the lategame of navi was so superior that AL never looked like winning that either.
To me it's a lot more interesting when for the most part teams have some kind of plan for every stage in the game, with these all in strats just used to try get an easy win here and there. Having said that this isn't really indicative of competitive dota gameplay considering how many heroes are removed, which at the same time makes me wonder why people try to use them as an example of how aggressive dota gameplay is. I haven't seen game 1 yet but I found game 2 to be interesting. Even though game 2 was mostly one-sided and the outcome was pretty much ensured (due to late game potential), that didn't make it any less interesting to me. I found the action interesting (two kills a minute). I found it fascinating how a team with Anti-Mage managed to play so aggressively in the early-mid game against a ganking lineup. Overall just watching pro players use non-standard lineups was enjoyable. Basically what I was going to say, I also missed game 1. I was rooting for AL so we could have a 3rd game, but the action was just a sheer pleasure to watch disregarding it was forsure over. Just watching them play insanely aggressive with non-stop action all over the place is Dota at it's finest. @Nb- Will have to fiddle with that quick hotkey, thanks for bringing it up.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think al lost early on when they were 7-3 because they couldn't stop effectively the Am to farm. The rest was gank/counter gank while waiting am to beat them 1v5.
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On February 11 2012 03:36 NB wrote:
that game surprised me a lot of people dont know about a trick in dota2: quick buy hotkey
I have my quick buy hotkey into one of my mouse button so that before i die, i just spam it and never lose money. In game 2 u could see sven died at 2200 gold which he could bought a blink dagger way way earlier. Same goes to tinker and his BoT which was delayed like 5 mins even though he has enough money several times. Quick buy function much faster than the old 'war3 hotkey all the shops' system if you have a plan on how to build your hero accurately. Hope pros will start using this soon to avoid silly mistakes.
Is there a hotkey for quick buy? How does it work? I know that you can drag items to the bottom right (quick buy area thing) and then right click them there to buy -- maybe the hotkey just buys that?
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On February 11 2012 04:16 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 04:01 Slardar wrote:On February 11 2012 02:48 Durak wrote:On February 11 2012 02:22 rob.au wrote:
It's great that there's a lot of action in these dota2 tournament games but I found myself losing interest extremely quickly in the navi vs AL games since the games were pretty much decided really early on. The first game AL needed to make the game last as long as they could, but got wrecked as hard as you possibly can be so the game was decided in the first 10 minutes. The second game they were basically breaking even with navi only the lategame of navi was so superior that AL never looked like winning that either.
To me it's a lot more interesting when for the most part teams have some kind of plan for every stage in the game, with these all in strats just used to try get an easy win here and there. Having said that this isn't really indicative of competitive dota gameplay considering how many heroes are removed, which at the same time makes me wonder why people try to use them as an example of how aggressive dota gameplay is. I haven't seen game 1 yet but I found game 2 to be interesting. Even though game 2 was mostly one-sided and the outcome was pretty much ensured (due to late game potential), that didn't make it any less interesting to me. I found the action interesting (two kills a minute). I found it fascinating how a team with Anti-Mage managed to play so aggressively in the early-mid game against a ganking lineup. Overall just watching pro players use non-standard lineups was enjoyable. Basically what I was going to say, I also missed game 1. I was rooting for AL so we could have a 3rd game, but the action was just a sheer pleasure to watch disregarding it was forsure over. Just watching them play insanely aggressive with non-stop action all over the place is Dota at it's finest. @Nb- Will have to fiddle with that quick hotkey, thanks for bringing it up. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think al lost early on when they were 7-3 because they couldn't stop effectively the Am to farm. The rest was gank/counter gank while waiting am to beat them 1v5.
Yeah, aL was definitely getting outplayed and "lost" when their ganking lineup was getting outkilled by a lineup with a hard carry in it. However, NaVi didn't just have AM farming while the other four were winning the game -- AM was there for a lot of the skirmishes. I found it interesting how it was played even though aL got dominated (basically just got some kills from overplays by NaVi). Inevitable that midas on AM and Nature's Prophet were going to win late game but still entertaining for me.
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AL lost when they thought they were being clever by banning Invoker and Sand King, and to make sure Na'vi didn't instant win with Chen they picked him first when their Chen players are not on the level of Na'vi. They also grabbed CM as the 3rd pick which is pretty equally ridiculous because they could have prioritized other heroes in that spot, all in all only grabbing WR as a valuable pick in the first pick phase, while giving up Prophet and AM right off the bat.
They commited themselves to 3 supports and then even used their 4th on a hard support, before going Tinker. 4 supports, 4 Int heroes, your Agi hero is really a support as well since the vengeance aura isn't really benefitting anyone who relies on right click damage except maybe WR past level 12 but you aren't playing for that late of a game.
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On February 11 2012 04:18 Durak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 03:36 NB wrote:
that game surprised me a lot of people dont know about a trick in dota2: quick buy hotkey
I have my quick buy hotkey into one of my mouse button so that before i die, i just spam it and never lose money. In game 2 u could see sven died at 2200 gold which he could bought a blink dagger way way earlier. Same goes to tinker and his BoT which was delayed like 5 mins even though he has enough money several times. Quick buy function much faster than the old 'war3 hotkey all the shops' system if you have a plan on how to build your hero accurately. Hope pros will start using this soon to avoid silly mistakes. Is there a hotkey for quick buy? How does it work? I know that you can drag items to the bottom right (quick buy area thing) and then right click them there to buy -- maybe the hotkey just buys that? Edit: Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 04:16 Erasme wrote:On February 11 2012 04:01 Slardar wrote:On February 11 2012 02:48 Durak wrote:On February 11 2012 02:22 rob.au wrote:
It's great that there's a lot of action in these dota2 tournament games but I found myself losing interest extremely quickly in the navi vs AL games since the games were pretty much decided really early on. The first game AL needed to make the game last as long as they could, but got wrecked as hard as you possibly can be so the game was decided in the first 10 minutes. The second game they were basically breaking even with navi only the lategame of navi was so superior that AL never looked like winning that either.
To me it's a lot more interesting when for the most part teams have some kind of plan for every stage in the game, with these all in strats just used to try get an easy win here and there. Having said that this isn't really indicative of competitive dota gameplay considering how many heroes are removed, which at the same time makes me wonder why people try to use them as an example of how aggressive dota gameplay is. I haven't seen game 1 yet but I found game 2 to be interesting. Even though game 2 was mostly one-sided and the outcome was pretty much ensured (due to late game potential), that didn't make it any less interesting to me. I found the action interesting (two kills a minute). I found it fascinating how a team with Anti-Mage managed to play so aggressively in the early-mid game against a ganking lineup. Overall just watching pro players use non-standard lineups was enjoyable. Basically what I was going to say, I also missed game 1. I was rooting for AL so we could have a 3rd game, but the action was just a sheer pleasure to watch disregarding it was forsure over. Just watching them play insanely aggressive with non-stop action all over the place is Dota at it's finest. @Nb- Will have to fiddle with that quick hotkey, thanks for bringing it up. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think al lost early on when they were 7-3 because they couldn't stop effectively the Am to farm. The rest was gank/counter gank while waiting am to beat them 1v5. Yeah, aL was definitely getting outplayed and "lost" when their ganking lineup was getting outkilled by a lineup with a hard carry in it. However, NaVi didn't just have AM farming while the other four were winning the game -- AM was there for a lot of the skirmishes. I found it interesting how it was played even though aL got dominated (basically just got some kills from overplays by NaVi). Inevitable that midas on AM and Nature's Prophet were going to win late game but still entertaining for me.
correct for the quickbuy. hot key will go left to right as well and put it in sticky or whatever its called when you put it in quick buy (area right of gold count)
also na'vi doesn't lose to cute stuff. you have to straight up outplay them because the russians pretty much understand every weird strategy out there
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On February 11 2012 04:34 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 04:18 Durak wrote:On February 11 2012 03:36 NB wrote:
that game surprised me a lot of people dont know about a trick in dota2: quick buy hotkey
I have my quick buy hotkey into one of my mouse button so that before i die, i just spam it and never lose money. In game 2 u could see sven died at 2200 gold which he could bought a blink dagger way way earlier. Same goes to tinker and his BoT which was delayed like 5 mins even though he has enough money several times. Quick buy function much faster than the old 'war3 hotkey all the shops' system if you have a plan on how to build your hero accurately. Hope pros will start using this soon to avoid silly mistakes. Is there a hotkey for quick buy? How does it work? I know that you can drag items to the bottom right (quick buy area thing) and then right click them there to buy -- maybe the hotkey just buys that? Edit: On February 11 2012 04:16 Erasme wrote:On February 11 2012 04:01 Slardar wrote:On February 11 2012 02:48 Durak wrote:On February 11 2012 02:22 rob.au wrote:
It's great that there's a lot of action in these dota2 tournament games but I found myself losing interest extremely quickly in the navi vs AL games since the games were pretty much decided really early on. The first game AL needed to make the game last as long as they could, but got wrecked as hard as you possibly can be so the game was decided in the first 10 minutes. The second game they were basically breaking even with navi only the lategame of navi was so superior that AL never looked like winning that either.
To me it's a lot more interesting when for the most part teams have some kind of plan for every stage in the game, with these all in strats just used to try get an easy win here and there. Having said that this isn't really indicative of competitive dota gameplay considering how many heroes are removed, which at the same time makes me wonder why people try to use them as an example of how aggressive dota gameplay is. I haven't seen game 1 yet but I found game 2 to be interesting. Even though game 2 was mostly one-sided and the outcome was pretty much ensured (due to late game potential), that didn't make it any less interesting to me. I found the action interesting (two kills a minute). I found it fascinating how a team with Anti-Mage managed to play so aggressively in the early-mid game against a ganking lineup. Overall just watching pro players use non-standard lineups was enjoyable. Basically what I was going to say, I also missed game 1. I was rooting for AL so we could have a 3rd game, but the action was just a sheer pleasure to watch disregarding it was forsure over. Just watching them play insanely aggressive with non-stop action all over the place is Dota at it's finest. @Nb- Will have to fiddle with that quick hotkey, thanks for bringing it up. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think al lost early on when they were 7-3 because they couldn't stop effectively the Am to farm. The rest was gank/counter gank while waiting am to beat them 1v5. Yeah, aL was definitely getting outplayed and "lost" when their ganking lineup was getting outkilled by a lineup with a hard carry in it. However, NaVi didn't just have AM farming while the other four were winning the game -- AM was there for a lot of the skirmishes. I found it interesting how it was played even though aL got dominated (basically just got some kills from overplays by NaVi). Inevitable that midas on AM and Nature's Prophet were going to win late game but still entertaining for me. correct for the quickbuy. hot key will go left to right as well and put it in sticky or whatever its called when you put it in quick buy (area right of gold count) also na'vi doesn't lose to cute stuff. you have to straight up outplay them because the russians pretty much understand every weird strategy out there
-_- ?
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On February 11 2012 04:41 Durak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 04:34 rabidch wrote:On February 11 2012 04:18 Durak wrote:On February 11 2012 03:36 NB wrote:
that game surprised me a lot of people dont know about a trick in dota2: quick buy hotkey
I have my quick buy hotkey into one of my mouse button so that before i die, i just spam it and never lose money. In game 2 u could see sven died at 2200 gold which he could bought a blink dagger way way earlier. Same goes to tinker and his BoT which was delayed like 5 mins even though he has enough money several times. Quick buy function much faster than the old 'war3 hotkey all the shops' system if you have a plan on how to build your hero accurately. Hope pros will start using this soon to avoid silly mistakes. Is there a hotkey for quick buy? How does it work? I know that you can drag items to the bottom right (quick buy area thing) and then right click them there to buy -- maybe the hotkey just buys that? Edit: On February 11 2012 04:16 Erasme wrote:On February 11 2012 04:01 Slardar wrote:On February 11 2012 02:48 Durak wrote:On February 11 2012 02:22 rob.au wrote:
It's great that there's a lot of action in these dota2 tournament games but I found myself losing interest extremely quickly in the navi vs AL games since the games were pretty much decided really early on. The first game AL needed to make the game last as long as they could, but got wrecked as hard as you possibly can be so the game was decided in the first 10 minutes. The second game they were basically breaking even with navi only the lategame of navi was so superior that AL never looked like winning that either.
To me it's a lot more interesting when for the most part teams have some kind of plan for every stage in the game, with these all in strats just used to try get an easy win here and there. Having said that this isn't really indicative of competitive dota gameplay considering how many heroes are removed, which at the same time makes me wonder why people try to use them as an example of how aggressive dota gameplay is. I haven't seen game 1 yet but I found game 2 to be interesting. Even though game 2 was mostly one-sided and the outcome was pretty much ensured (due to late game potential), that didn't make it any less interesting to me. I found the action interesting (two kills a minute). I found it fascinating how a team with Anti-Mage managed to play so aggressively in the early-mid game against a ganking lineup. Overall just watching pro players use non-standard lineups was enjoyable. Basically what I was going to say, I also missed game 1. I was rooting for AL so we could have a 3rd game, but the action was just a sheer pleasure to watch disregarding it was forsure over. Just watching them play insanely aggressive with non-stop action all over the place is Dota at it's finest. @Nb- Will have to fiddle with that quick hotkey, thanks for bringing it up. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think al lost early on when they were 7-3 because they couldn't stop effectively the Am to farm. The rest was gank/counter gank while waiting am to beat them 1v5. Yeah, aL was definitely getting outplayed and "lost" when their ganking lineup was getting outkilled by a lineup with a hard carry in it. However, NaVi didn't just have AM farming while the other four were winning the game -- AM was there for a lot of the skirmishes. I found it interesting how it was played even though aL got dominated (basically just got some kills from overplays by NaVi). Inevitable that midas on AM and Nature's Prophet were going to win late game but still entertaining for me. correct for the quickbuy. hot key will go left to right as well and put it in sticky or whatever its called when you put it in quick buy (area right of gold count) also na'vi doesn't lose to cute stuff. you have to straight up outplay them because the russians pretty much understand every weird strategy out there -_- ?
they're pretty much russians, with the exception of ppy. ukrainians play on the russian dota communities
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On February 11 2012 04:23 Zlasher wrote:
AL lost when they thought they were being clever by banning Invoker and Sand King, and to make sure Na'vi didn't instant win with Chen they picked him first when their Chen players are not on the level of Na'vi. They also grabbed CM as the 3rd pick which is pretty equally ridiculous because they could have prioritized other heroes in that spot, all in all only grabbing WR as a valuable pick in the first pick phase, while giving up Prophet and AM right off the bat.
They commited themselves to 3 supports and then even used their 4th on a hard support, before going Tinker. 4 supports, 4 Int heroes, your Agi hero is really a support as well since the vengeance aura isn't really benefitting anyone who relies on right click damage except maybe WR past level 12 but you aren't playing for that late of a game.
Yeah I feel like CM was a pretty questionable pick, but following up with VS was the point where the match was over. Start was pretty hilarious though, with AL getting baited by a single Treant.
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On February 11 2012 04:23 Zlasher wrote:
AL lost when they thought they were being clever by banning Invoker and Sand King, and to make sure Na'vi didn't instant win with Chen they picked him first when their Chen players are not on the level of Na'vi. They also grabbed CM as the 3rd pick which is pretty equally ridiculous because they could have prioritized other heroes in that spot, all in all only grabbing WR as a valuable pick in the first pick phase, while giving up Prophet and AM right off the bat.
They commited themselves to 3 supports and then even used their 4th on a hard support, before going Tinker. 4 supports, 4 Int heroes, your Agi hero is really a support as well since the vengeance aura isn't really benefitting anyone who relies on right click damage except maybe WR past level 12 but you aren't playing for that late of a game.
Godot is a really good chen player btw, they first pick chen alot not just to counter navi; just putting it out there. and i completely agree about the too many supports, i believe that they knew they werent going to outcarry an antimage so they chose to simply try their best to win the early game, that venge pick was horrible though, if they had gone for a bat/BM instead it wouldve gone better. i agree with the tinker ban though, they were banking on having him get lots of farm early game and then just go to am's lane and keep on harrasing him. i just feel that instead of a venge they shouldve had a mid-game dominance hero instead.
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If their goal was to outpush and win early/mid then they should have gone wiht a pushing strat then right? VS and CM are not good for pushing, Chen can be yes, Tinker can't properly do a push until like 20-25 minutes in with good farm (ha, you think you're going to farm well solo vs Dendi?). Also, Prophet is pretty decent at counterpushing, which they gave up, I mean there was really no way to play it but to grab another hard carry like Void and create a lineup to go around that instead of getting cute with Navi, the way I see it at least.
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currently im using quick buy quite a lot: for example having carrier free farm bot from beginning of the game, i could either choose to rush to core item (rad butterfly heart etc) or do a normal tread into assist ganking. Often i just drag a tread into the quick buy slot and keep farming into rad, if i got killed by surprise ganking, i spam the quickbuy hotkey to spend all my money before i actually die so there will be no gold lost.
Its not as great as the hotkey shop of dota1 as u cant buy EVERYTHING in matter of seconds if u have enough APM but quite convenience as i dont have to look away from my hero and just spam side mouse button. Imagine you playing clinkz and cant decided to rush orchid or MKB, just have an orchid ready in quick buy slot and spam the button. As everything are so cheap, often in time you wont lose any money bc you could simply buy them all really fast.
Another use of this is when you go into rosh area to buy stuff from the secret shop. Instead of go there and wait for a while and die to ward gank, just poke in, click 1 button and get out. I hope there is a better way to put stuff in the quick buy slot other than drag n drop though. Drag n drop simply make things much slower and noobish 
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On February 11 2012 04:16 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 04:01 Slardar wrote:On February 11 2012 02:48 Durak wrote:On February 11 2012 02:22 rob.au wrote:
It's great that there's a lot of action in these dota2 tournament games but I found myself losing interest extremely quickly in the navi vs AL games since the games were pretty much decided really early on. The first game AL needed to make the game last as long as they could, but got wrecked as hard as you possibly can be so the game was decided in the first 10 minutes. The second game they were basically breaking even with navi only the lategame of navi was so superior that AL never looked like winning that either.
To me it's a lot more interesting when for the most part teams have some kind of plan for every stage in the game, with these all in strats just used to try get an easy win here and there. Having said that this isn't really indicative of competitive dota gameplay considering how many heroes are removed, which at the same time makes me wonder why people try to use them as an example of how aggressive dota gameplay is. I haven't seen game 1 yet but I found game 2 to be interesting. Even though game 2 was mostly one-sided and the outcome was pretty much ensured (due to late game potential), that didn't make it any less interesting to me. I found the action interesting (two kills a minute). I found it fascinating how a team with Anti-Mage managed to play so aggressively in the early-mid game against a ganking lineup. Overall just watching pro players use non-standard lineups was enjoyable. Basically what I was going to say, I also missed game 1. I was rooting for AL so we could have a 3rd game, but the action was just a sheer pleasure to watch disregarding it was forsure over. Just watching them play insanely aggressive with non-stop action all over the place is Dota at it's finest. @Nb- Will have to fiddle with that quick hotkey, thanks for bringing it up. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think al lost early on when they were 7-3 because they couldn't stop effectively the Am to farm. The rest was gank/counter gank while waiting am to beat them 1v5.
Indeed. It wasn't even the AM alone, the Sven as well. AL picked a complete EARLY-MID Game Ganker heavy Lineup, they didn't pick a carry that could come close to competing with either of those heroes. AL Lost when they couldn't take a kill lead and shut down the AM, (Midas first? Jesus) , They had to have a definitive lead and control over the game, if NaVi was only trailing a few kills that is huge win for them, but NaVi just has better team play I guess they hanged in there and it's easy win from there.
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Rushing butterfly or heart is 99% of the time absolutely terrible. Radiance can work if your hero is one thats core item is Radiance like a Spectre, but why would you need to quickbuy it? Radiance is just relic and recipe. I think the quickbuy is pretty useless to be honest, I set up which item I want in the shop anyways so quickbuy is just one click faster which in the grand scheme changes nothing. This includes going into rosh pit to buy a secret shop item lol.
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