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Going on "Leave" from University to play DotA 2 - Page 26

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3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
November 24 2012 01:41 GMT
#501
Maybe if you read some of the responses, you'd see that most of the people told him the same thing you did.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 24 2012 02:06 GMT
#502
On November 24 2012 10:20 yeastiality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 10:14 RuskiPanda wrote:
On November 24 2012 10:05 yeastiality wrote:
On November 23 2012 19:13 Destro wrote:
dude dont do it.

finish your education. pursuit of knowledge > the pursuit of video games.

it might seem like you are putting your education on hold, but you are actually risking it. life is fragile and changes quickly. things could happen and you might not be able to go back... you could really fuck over your life over this. anyone that is telling you otherwise is jaded. You can do what you love and do what you need to do at the same time. dont be a fool.


yeah, this is very true.

also, when you say UofT engineering & science is a 'retarded course that destroys your soul'..
you don't realize it yet, but it's actually building your soul..flavour of the week video games are not

if you ask people on a site like teamliquid about whether you should quit life to play video games, the responses are bound to be heavily biased as well. you should think very seriously about how much of this idea is rooted in you being pissed off about school..don't make a knee-jerk decision you're bound to regret


You.. do realize he is already playing on No Tidehunter and doing great at Dreamhack? I understand laziness but it is not very difficult to at least skim the thread before you repeat "go for the safe, moneyed position over dota" for the 100th time when Eternal Envy has already decided to take the plunge into competitive gaming.


To be honest, I mostly wrote my post to organize my own thoughts after reading the OP. I don't follow DOTA or this person, but it was interesting to me that someone who is obviously struggling with a very difficult academic program early in their life was pushed so strongly in the wrong direction by bad advice from video game people on a video game forum.

Oh well.


The ironic part about your post is that 1) Most of the people in this thread told him the exact same thing you did, so I'm not sure what bias you are talking about, most of us have real jobs and real careers and play video games on the side, and 2) He followed his dreams and is now on a successful DotA team. Could he be making more money as an engineer? Probably. But if this is what he wants to do, that's fine, and he's making it work.

And for the record I am an engineer, and that was the right choice for me. I wouldn't presume to say that it was the right choice for someone else, knowing nothing about them. I suggest you do the same.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
November 24 2012 02:07 GMT
#503
On November 24 2012 10:20 yeastiality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 10:14 RuskiPanda wrote:
On November 24 2012 10:05 yeastiality wrote:
On November 23 2012 19:13 Destro wrote:
dude dont do it.

finish your education. pursuit of knowledge > the pursuit of video games.

it might seem like you are putting your education on hold, but you are actually risking it. life is fragile and changes quickly. things could happen and you might not be able to go back... you could really fuck over your life over this. anyone that is telling you otherwise is jaded. You can do what you love and do what you need to do at the same time. dont be a fool.


yeah, this is very true.

also, when you say UofT engineering & science is a 'retarded course that destroys your soul'..
you don't realize it yet, but it's actually building your soul..flavour of the week video games are not

if you ask people on a site like teamliquid about whether you should quit life to play video games, the responses are bound to be heavily biased as well. you should think very seriously about how much of this idea is rooted in you being pissed off about school..don't make a knee-jerk decision you're bound to regret


You.. do realize he is already playing on No Tidehunter and doing great at Dreamhack? I understand laziness but it is not very difficult to at least skim the thread before you repeat "go for the safe, moneyed position over dota" for the 100th time when Eternal Envy has already decided to take the plunge into competitive gaming.


To be honest, I mostly wrote my post to organize my own thoughts after reading the OP. I don't follow DOTA or this person, but it was interesting to me that someone who is obviously struggling with a very difficult academic program early in their life was pushed so strongly in the wrong direction by bad advice from video game people on a video game forum.

Oh well.

Where did you get the 'obviously struggling' part?
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Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
November 24 2012 02:13 GMT
#504
I still don't get how he's apparently never going to be able to go back to school now. Everything points to this guy being fairly smart. Yeah, he whines about university workload, but who doesn't? To succeed in academics all you need is either 1) be intelligent or 2) be diligent. Once you move past a high school mindset it's honestly not that hard, and from what I've seen the older students are some of the best performers since they've grown and learned to take shit seriously. Did I miss the part where Dota is like heroin and destroys your mind or something?

life is fragile and changes quickly. things could happen and you might not be able to go back...

I mean, are we afraid of this guy becoming a quadriplegic in a tragic teamfighting accident or what?
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 03:26:44
November 24 2012 03:26 GMT
#505
On November 24 2012 11:13 Redmark wrote:
I still don't get how he's apparently never going to be able to go back to school now. Everything points to this guy being fairly smart. Yeah, he whines about university workload, but who doesn't? To succeed in academics all you need is either 1) be intelligent or 2) be diligent. Once you move past a high school mindset it's honestly not that hard, and from what I've seen the older students are some of the best performers since they've grown and learned to take shit seriously. Did I miss the part where Dota is like heroin and destroys your mind or something?

Show nested quote +
life is fragile and changes quickly. things could happen and you might not be able to go back...

I mean, are we afraid of this guy becoming a quadriplegic in a tragic teamfighting accident or what?


Mr.Bitters got mugged in China. Esports is a dangerous lifestyle so we should all be thankful that we can live to play another day.
High Risk Low Reward
Nakama
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany584 Posts
November 24 2012 13:45 GMT
#506
nice veno play against empire =)
gl in ur future
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
November 24 2012 14:52 GMT
#507
It would be really cool if TL interviewed admiral bulldog after dreamhack, I'm sure it would interess a lot of people to know how "going pro" in dota went.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
November 24 2012 15:04 GMT
#508
On November 24 2012 11:13 Redmark wrote:

I mean, are we afraid of this guy becoming a quadriplegic in a tragic teamfighting accident or what?



This made me laugh for a while :D
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 15:31:16
November 24 2012 15:30 GMT
#509
To sum up Envy's life the over the year:

guy in university >>> ditches uni for progaming >>> shit talk from ultra-conservative TLers >>> 1 shot to make his dreams come true >>> ends up in the grand finals of a major tourney >>> shuts up all the nay-sayers

This would make a great movie or mini drama series.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 15:33:02
November 24 2012 15:32 GMT
#510
Damnit.. wrong thread haha
Crytash
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany251 Posts
November 24 2012 15:36 GMT
#511
On November 25 2012 00:30 sharky246 wrote:
To sum up Envy's life the over the year:

guy in university >>> ditches uni for progaming >>> shit talk from ultra-conservative TLers >>> 1 shot to make his dreams come true >>> ends up in the grand finals of a major tourney >>> shuts up all the nay-sayers

This would make a great movie or mini drama series.



Yes it would be.

Honestly, this guy played realy nice. Even if he will be only 2nd with his team, they will get a sponsor and they will attend maybe even at TI3.
Words are small, but game is BIG
Bold
Profile Joined November 2012
Mongolia2 Posts
November 24 2012 16:13 GMT
#512
The problem might be is you said that IF i failed. if you really wanna make it u just can make there is no options. Good luck seriously
be strong
bluesky2
Profile Joined November 2012
United States8 Posts
November 24 2012 17:11 GMT
#513
surreal thread. envy decides to try something new-age and awesome that few people have the opportunity to do, at arguably the best time for him to do so, he's already got himself established on a career and e-sports is a fairly new concept in the west, assuming it continues to thrive you could assume more people/money will get into it and the barrier of entry will gradually increase. say he tries and fails, welp, that was a fun year, back to uni (assuming he's coherent enough to return to the pyramid that's half built instead of starting one from scratch). envy decides to tell a group of people his plans, the group he tells are essentially representatives of the field he's trying to break into. a sizable portion of the group respond negatively to his plan, citing personal reasons and assumptions as to how any more harm could be done than simply losing a potential years worth of schooling.

it's insulting to him to assume he wouldn't under any controllable circumstance continue on the path he was prior, which is the only feasible directly correlated negative outcome to simply taking a year off school. if your life experience/perspective leads you to realllly think it's a bad idea, simply state you wouldn't do that in his situation, or remain indifferent. reflecting oneself onto others is generally detrimental when discussing unmeasurable matters, such as what the future might bring for someone and how they may react to spending a year out of school. as the first party offering the advice "pressures" the second party to take a certain course of action or actions based on what the first party would do or, perhaps worse, what the first party thinks the second party should do. this could put doubt or unrest into the second party's thoughts, and allows the first party to be content with their actions because it was an attempt to "help".

be supportive, there's no reason to dump on an idea or plan within rational reason simply because you disagree with it, pretty backwards/sheltered

envy says "omg dudes im gunna try to be a progamer i think i can do it :d". rightTL says "pro gamers haha wat a dumb idea go back to school omg this one time at bandcamp"

then i reach page 20~ and discover not only he has succeeded, but done so with flying colors. justice
don't worry about it, remain concious of it, and fix it when you can
imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
November 24 2012 17:14 GMT
#514
I'm so happy to see the success that Envy is having at this tournament. He's a pretty nice guy and I remember he answered a good deal of my questions on his stream when I was brand new to Dota 2.

Definitely a fan of whatever team he is on.
*eternalenvy fanboy*
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 17:22:14
November 24 2012 17:18 GMT
#515
Interview with this very man!



edit: watching this now, kraken shell has a sound?!?!?!
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
November 24 2012 18:00 GMT
#516
^ Envy hardcore.
Severus_
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 18:14:29
November 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#517
Nice one buddie it requires alot of courage to do something like this. I remember in one of the fnatic documentary movies the first manager sold his car and banked everything so VoO can attend at some tournament and look where fnatic is now.
boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
November 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#518
Best thread development ever. Envy fighting!!!
INTENZ-_-
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden137 Posts
November 24 2012 18:23 GMT
#519
Envy is my favorite tryhard player, he works hard to reach his goals! PROPS!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 24 2012 18:27 GMT
#520
Respect sir.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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