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blahblahyoutoo
Profile Joined June 2012
14 Posts
June 07 2012 20:30 GMT
#101
On June 06 2012 14:51 dranko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 04:45 blahblahyoutoo wrote:
On May 22 2012 07:16 Muki wrote:
Worst: Jakiro's Ice path and Rigwarl's actives (magic wand ftw)
Best skill: Lich's dark ritual and Tuskarr's WALRUS PUNCH!


No way Jak's ice path can be considered bad.


No, it's pretty bad, just not the worst in the game.


yeah, it's not the greatest stun in the world, but it works well with his other skills. the delay between when the ice appears on screen, and when the enemy gets stun is pretty bad.

what they really need to do is bring back the cast speed for his ult when paired with the scepter. for some reason I think the scepter only gives it increased damage and duration (?).
i remember in wc3 dota where it used to come out instantly.
blahblahyoutoo
Profile Joined June 2012
14 Posts
June 07 2012 20:31 GMT
#102
On June 06 2012 15:36 Zariel wrote:
As an LoD Player:

Best Skill:
Ultimate: Reverse Polarity or Chronosphere - Goes through magic immunity. All other ones can be stopped/prevented one way or another.
Normal: Blink

Worst Skill:
Ultimate: Wall of Replica - Convince me that this skill is actually good. It was sooo bad before, I think they gave it heaps of buffs since though.
Normal: Upheaval is pretty bad too, a skill like that should not be channeling.


what does LoD stand for?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 07 2012 21:05 GMT
#103
I'll just mirror my picks for best and worst hero, but now with an ability.
Best ability: Nature's Prophet's Teleportation
Worst ability: Alchemist's Unstable Concoction (at least for noobs like me who keep blowing themselves up)
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 22:12:23
June 07 2012 22:11 GMT
#104
On June 06 2012 15:36 Zariel wrote:
As an LoD Player:

Best Skill:
Ultimate: Reverse Polarity or Chronosphere - Goes through magic immunity. All other ones can be stopped/prevented one way or another.
Normal: Blink

Worst Skill:
Ultimate: Wall of Replica - Convince me that this skill is actually good. It was sooo bad before, I think they gave it heaps of buffs since though.
Normal: Upheaval is pretty bad too, a skill like that should not be channeling.


Um, wall of replica wasnt that great a long time ago, then they made scepter copy your allies, so suddenly you have 15 heroes on your side vs 5, and the illusions deal more right click. Then they nerfed the scepter but people realized how awesome it was in teamfights and now the skill is still good cos people have developed a fear of the wall now.

Upheaval really doesnt matter that its channeling, because after you ult, bond them up and throw heal, what are you gonna do? right click? just channel that huge slow forever.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 07 2012 22:19 GMT
#105
On June 08 2012 07:11 kdgns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 15:36 Zariel wrote:
As an LoD Player:

Best Skill:
Ultimate: Reverse Polarity or Chronosphere - Goes through magic immunity. All other ones can be stopped/prevented one way or another.
Normal: Blink

Worst Skill:
Ultimate: Wall of Replica - Convince me that this skill is actually good. It was sooo bad before, I think they gave it heaps of buffs since though.
Normal: Upheaval is pretty bad too, a skill like that should not be channeling.


Um, wall of replica wasnt that great a long time ago, then they made scepter copy your allies, so suddenly you have 15 heroes on your side vs 5, and the illusions deal more right click. Then they nerfed the scepter but people realized how awesome it was in teamfights and now the skill is still good cos people have developed a fear of the wall now.

Upheaval really doesnt matter that its channeling, because after you ult, bond them up and throw heal, what are you gonna do? right click? just channel that huge slow forever.

I've had tons of success against ursa's using upheaval - that amount of slow just cripples him :3
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 07 2012 22:34 GMT
#106
On June 08 2012 05:31 blahblahyoutoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 15:36 Zariel wrote:
As an LoD Player:

Best Skill:
Ultimate: Reverse Polarity or Chronosphere - Goes through magic immunity. All other ones can be stopped/prevented one way or another.
Normal: Blink

Worst Skill:
Ultimate: Wall of Replica - Convince me that this skill is actually good. It was sooo bad before, I think they gave it heaps of buffs since though.
Normal: Upheaval is pretty bad too, a skill like that should not be channeling.


what does LoD stand for?

legends of dota, it is an additional custom edited map of dota that has game modes of picking custom hero skills and ultimates, and pairing with heroes.

the LoD versions have been updated to latest though, wall of replica is still not that great
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Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 05:22:24
June 08 2012 05:20 GMT
#107
Best non-ultimate skill is PA's stifling dagger 15!!!?!?!!! mana 100 pure!!! damage (200 to creeps), huge range, 8 sec CD, and it even slows by 50% for 4 seconds!!!!
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
Wasteweiser
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 06:58:40
June 08 2012 06:57 GMT
#108
Worst skill in the game? AA's icy chill by far.
Best skill int he game? The one that propels Treant Protector to the king of pubs spot just above Ursa, Living armor.

Why living armor? Because it gives gobal life regen and armor to all heroes on the map during daylight, that keeps heroes in their lane longer and take more abuse more often.
Obitus.243
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
June 10 2012 05:02 GMT
#109
Chilling touch is sick on Ursa.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 05:47:22
June 10 2012 05:46 GMT
#110
On June 08 2012 05:31 blahblahyoutoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 15:36 Zariel wrote:
As an LoD Player:

Best Skill:
Ultimate: Reverse Polarity or Chronosphere - Goes through magic immunity. All other ones can be stopped/prevented one way or another.
Normal: Blink

Worst Skill:
Ultimate: Wall of Replica - Convince me that this skill is actually good. It was sooo bad before, I think they gave it heaps of buffs since though.
Normal: Upheaval is pretty bad too, a skill like that should not be channeling.


what does LoD stand for?

Legends of Dota. You get to pick a hero and then pick 4 skills for that hero. Mostly it's played in SD mode so that the pool is limited, because in AP some combos have to be banned as they're simply ridiculous (Enchant totem + Geminate Attack/Tidebringer, Aftershock + Quill Spray). (You get like 15ish heroes in SD that are completely random)
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
June 11 2012 10:56 GMT
#111
Worst: Curse of the Silent
Best: Swap
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10763 Posts
June 11 2012 11:37 GMT
#112
Not to situational i would pick:

Best: Ravage.. The amount of games this ult alone has decided is sickening...
Worst: Necrolytes "Aura"? .. Well, worst is actually hard to pick...
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 13:05:56
June 11 2012 13:05 GMT
#113
I don't get the hate for mana drain. On level 4 it drains 120 mana per second and since the newest patch that means you drain 480 mana from a ranged creep.
It also instantly destroys an illusion for only 10 mana, which is pretty sick against Manta/Illusion carries. and last but not least it also triggers Linken's which obviously is very important for Lion.

No way this is the worst skill in the game.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
June 11 2012 15:00 GMT
#114
On June 11 2012 22:05 Ragoo wrote:
I don't get the hate for mana drain. On level 4 it drains 120 mana per second and since the newest patch that means you drain 480 mana from a ranged creep.
It also instantly destroys an illusion for only 10 mana, which is pretty sick against Manta/Illusion carries. and last but not least it also triggers Linken's which obviously is very important for Lion.

No way this is the worst skill in the game.


lol. I use it to piss off low mana strength heroes.
FADC
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
June 12 2012 09:50 GMT
#115
Worst: Necrolytes Mana gain
Best: Fissure / Shockwave
http://www.twitch.tv/d4v3z02 all your base are belong to overlord
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 09:57:17
June 12 2012 09:54 GMT
#116
On June 11 2012 20:37 Velr wrote:
Not to situational i would pick:

Best: Ravage.. The amount of games this ult alone has decided is sickening...
Worst: Necrolytes "Aura"? .. Well, worst is actually hard to pick...


The Aura can make him a carry when farmed and bulked with shitloads hp so that cant be right. Also he can clean stacks of ancients with it or use it for babysitting.
http://www.twitch.tv/d4v3z02 all your base are belong to overlord
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 09:56:42
June 12 2012 09:56 GMT
#117
- delete lol
http://www.twitch.tv/d4v3z02 all your base are belong to overlord
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
June 12 2012 13:48 GMT
#118
On June 12 2012 18:50 D4V3Z02 wrote:
Worst: Necrolytes Mana gain
Best: Fissure / Shockwave


What the heck??? The mana gain is essential for necrolyte, with his insane mana cost spells. And now that it gives 600 mana if you kill a hero its an awesome skill! At least in my opinion. Explain please why do you think its the worst?
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
findingthelimit
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong219 Posts
June 13 2012 11:57 GMT
#119
reading this thread makes me sad.... i can't believe people think AA's third is "useless"... chilling touch amplifies damage to such a great extend if used in combination with his E.

anyhow, imo, best skill is prophet's teleportation, worst skill is lion's mana drain. i personally dont skill mana drain till level 22, and before any of you flame me, be informed that mana drain is never learned in any -cm game.

pub might be different to -cm, but lion played properly should never have mana issues, provided the player is not stupid-
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
June 13 2012 12:05 GMT
#120
On June 13 2012 20:57 findingthelimit wrote:
reading this thread makes me sad.... i can't believe people think AA's third is "useless"... chilling touch amplifies damage to such a great extend if used in combination with his E.

anyhow, imo, best skill is prophet's teleportation, worst skill is lion's mana drain. i personally dont skill mana drain till level 22, and before any of you flame me, be informed that mana drain is never learned in any -cm game.

pub might be different to -cm, but lion played properly should never have mana issues, provided the player is not stupid-


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