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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
October 22 2013 10:20 GMT
#1461
Can someone explain me how does new Spectre ult work? Does this mean that after using Reality u can real-TP to any of them and still re-TP to different one, before ulti is done or what?
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bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
October 22 2013 10:26 GMT
#1462
On October 22 2013 17:55 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 17:54 synd wrote:
On October 22 2013 17:38 StoRm_res wrote:
I think the new tranquils are the most useless boots in dota history
plus they took away the fun of armlet.

On the plus side, loving my lvl 4 clone on meepo :D

Oh, why the opinion about the tranquils? ;O
They give super speed, armor and quite fucking good hp regen.
I dare to say I must make them on every carry XD

They get disabled every time you get attacked or you attack a creep for a last hit.


at least they still give more ms at disabled state than PT and Phase, still decent for chasing to some extent
ELqQQT_T
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
October 22 2013 10:27 GMT
#1463
On October 22 2013 19:17 pyro19 wrote:
Brood is just a scary laner now..She still gives off so much gold to someone like a gyro or Luna and remains useless in Teamfights.

The new Tranquils are trash for me..After a teamfight/gank you either sit around to heal or you either farm on 200 hp.Can't do both :/


or you can soul ring and spam spells
Put quote here for readability
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
October 22 2013 10:31 GMT
#1464
On October 22 2013 19:26 bluegarfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 17:55 Firebolt145 wrote:
On October 22 2013 17:54 synd wrote:
On October 22 2013 17:38 StoRm_res wrote:
I think the new tranquils are the most useless boots in dota history
plus they took away the fun of armlet.

On the plus side, loving my lvl 4 clone on meepo :D

Oh, why the opinion about the tranquils? ;O
They give super speed, armor and quite fucking good hp regen.
I dare to say I must make them on every carry XD

They get disabled every time you get attacked or you attack a creep for a last hit.


at least they still give more ms at disabled state than PT and Phase, still decent for chasing to some extent

Sure, but they're still pretty bad on most carries now.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
October 22 2013 10:33 GMT
#1465
On October 22 2013 19:20 739 wrote:
Can someone explain me how does new Spectre ult work? Does this mean that after using Reality u can real-TP to any of them and still re-TP to different one, before ulti is done or what?

Probably. I think it also means you can tp to regular illusions too
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
October 22 2013 10:45 GMT
#1466
when I saw my dota2 client was patching in my head icefrog was like: "surprize surprize muddafakkas!" it aint fake, now here it is!
I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 10:46:41
October 22 2013 10:46 GMT
#1467
On October 22 2013 19:31 Firebolt145 wrote:
Sure, but they're still pretty bad on most carries now.


with the nerf to regen pool and this, it all makes sense. good on support is kinda good enough. the sad thing is that some hero cannot go yolo dive tower then heal back with tranq anymore and some squishy carry heroes will need even more protection from support, which is gonna be hard in pub TT
ELqQQT_T
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
October 22 2013 10:51 GMT
#1468
If you don't want auto attack stats and don't need the mana from arcanes, then tranquils are pretty good. Very cheap and good armour. Seems good on heroes like pudge, beastmaster, necro, and many supports.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
October 22 2013 12:00 GMT
#1469
On October 22 2013 19:33 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 19:20 739 wrote:
Can someone explain me how does new Spectre ult work? Does this mean that after using Reality u can real-TP to any of them and still re-TP to different one, before ulti is done or what?

Probably. I think it also means you can tp to regular illusions too

can't tp to regular illusions which is the saddest thing ever.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
woreyour
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
582 Posts
October 22 2013 13:48 GMT
#1470
The only thing I got disappointed was that there were no new heroes.

I was expecting legion commander, terror blade and techies.
I am so sexy.. I sometimes romance myself..
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
October 22 2013 13:50 GMT
#1471
On October 22 2013 19:51 LAN-f34r wrote:
If you don't want auto attack stats and don't need the mana from arcanes, then tranquils are pretty good. Very cheap and good armour. Seems good on heroes like pudge, beastmaster, necro, and many supports.

They're even better than that, I think. Tranqs can still be disassembled, I believe, so you can build them and then later take them apart to get other items. Force Staff and Vlads are some decent options, as well as the eternal Mek.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 22 2013 13:56 GMT
#1472
On October 22 2013 22:50 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 19:51 LAN-f34r wrote:
If you don't want auto attack stats and don't need the mana from arcanes, then tranquils are pretty good. Very cheap and good armour. Seems good on heroes like pudge, beastmaster, necro, and many supports.

They're even better than that, I think. Tranqs can still be disassembled, I believe, so you can build them and then later take them apart to get other items. Force Staff and Vlads are some decent options, as well as the eternal Mek.

They can't be disassembled.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
BG_Axee
Profile Joined October 2013
Albania2 Posts
October 22 2013 14:28 GMT
#1473
wtf is with axe ulti man do it as it was pls or its a shit hero
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
October 22 2013 15:34 GMT
#1474
On October 22 2013 22:56 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 22:50 Acritter wrote:
On October 22 2013 19:51 LAN-f34r wrote:
If you don't want auto attack stats and don't need the mana from arcanes, then tranquils are pretty good. Very cheap and good armour. Seems good on heroes like pudge, beastmaster, necro, and many supports.

They're even better than that, I think. Tranqs can still be disassembled, I believe, so you can build them and then later take them apart to get other items. Force Staff and Vlads are some decent options, as well as the eternal Mek.

They can't be disassembled.

Really? That sucks, but oh well. Guess it still works from the other direction: you can build Basi, then disassemble into Tranqs and Medallion.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
October 22 2013 15:40 GMT
#1475
On October 22 2013 19:46 bluegarfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 19:31 Firebolt145 wrote:
Sure, but they're still pretty bad on most carries now.


with the nerf to regen pool and this, it all makes sense. good on support is kinda good enough. the sad thing is that some hero cannot go yolo dive tower then heal back with tranq anymore and some squishy carry heroes will need even more protection from support, which is gonna be hard in pub TT

thats what tranquils were supposed to be...good support boots. not for every hero so that he can farm all day without worrying about regen
FTD
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 15:42 GMT
#1476
I didn't mind tranquils as "HP Regen" boots rather than "Supports only no carries allowed" boots. If carries use the hp regen better then so be it.

Oh well.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 22 2013 15:46 GMT
#1477
The thing is it turned from "HP Regen" boots to "Armor and movespeed" boots. They weren't simply removed from carries.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 15:58 GMT
#1478
On October 23 2013 00:46 SKC wrote:
The thing is it turned from "HP Regen" boots to "Armor and movespeed" boots. They weren't simply removed from carries.

Yeah but the MS is less than phase (factoring in the active) and 4 armor is awful compared to the other boots. Sure they cost about half as much to upgrade compared to phase/treads but I don't feel like the utility is there anymore on carry heroes. Its not like carries need 4 armor very often compared to the DPS of treads/phase
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 22 2013 16:05 GMT
#1479
The issue is that Phase gives terrible stats for a lot of supports. And armor on boots is very relevant, remember when Phase boots were ridiculous with 5 armor? Regen just isn't the key element of tranquils right now.

Obviously the utility isn't really there for carries, just like they often don't need the mana from mana boots. This just means there is another set of boots that gives stats they aren't after, not that it is a good boot that they are artificially denied acess to.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 16:08 GMT
#1480
On October 23 2013 01:05 SKC wrote:
The issue is that Phase gives terrible stats for a lot of supports. And armor on boots is very relevant, remember when Phase boots were ridiculous with 5 armor? Regen just isn't the key element of tranquils right now.

Obviously the utility isn't really there for carries, just like they often don't need the mana from mana boots. This just means there is another set of boots that gives stats they aren't after, not that it is a good boot that they are artificially denied acess to.

Its definitely good boots that carries are artificially denied access to.

Hmmm, I bet these interact poorly with dewarding. Sux lol.
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