6.79 Changelog - Page 67

On October 20 2013 20:45 LAN-f34r wrote:
OD got nerfed more than it may seem. Not so much the changes to OD himself, but with the tranquils change, ranged heroes gettign melee XP from denies (its a nerf to OD - normally OD will get a lot more denies than the opponent, so they are getting a lot more XP than they would be), and the ghost sceptre disabling attack are all significant nerfs.

On October 21 2013 02:55 WolfintheSheep wrote:
I'm sure it's been talked about somewhere on this thread, but...is the Veil of Discord change enough to make it a common midgame item like Drums or Aquila?

On October 21 2013 03:16 Acritter wrote:

Severely doubt it. It's still ridiculously expensive. Aquila costs less than 1k gold and is amazing for agility carries that won't be replacing it too soon and can make good use of the mana. Drums are less than 2k, and are both a fantastic stats item and a core component to most racecar builds. Veil costs over 2.5k gold, give you shit for stats, and provide a single support utility that falls off the second the enemy carry purchases BKB. On a core hero, you want to be building a damage or utility item. On a support, you want to be building a Mek. There's no excuse for purchasing Veil, unless you are a Sand King or Zeus and your team is hilariously far ahead. Even then, you'd probably be better off converting that Null Talisman into a Dagon.

On October 21 2013 03:21 Kuroeeah wrote:
Apparently no tail thinks new Meepo sucks.

On October 21 2013 03:28 govie wrote:


I think maiden could work also. Its cheaper item then septer and gives 5% more ultidamageoutput, pretty damage/cost efficient. If u ever get a septer, then u could take this armour after. Or, if ur team wants to push earlier, get this veil first because u will not have enough for septer. If an enemy pops a bkb because maiden does her ultimate in a 2v2 or something like that, u should smile because they lost alot of gold and magic inuminty right there. A lvl9/10 bkb charge is like the daimondgold. Right?

I see the veil more as a drums for inthero's with a nice damageultimate (scorpion/maiden etc). Gives them basically everything they need at lower cost then a septer.

On October 21 2013 04:23 McTeazy wrote:
why even have broken tranquils in this iteration? if there's no active i really don't see the point. also, how do you replace them? i used to use them on spectre for map sustain. (if there aren't any safe lanes hit jungle creeps). i honestly think they were fair with the last nerf, good farming item, bad fighting item. they seem really convoluted and bad now.

On October 21 2013 04:26 Shaella wrote:

because farming items are lame

They're honestly the best boots for supports that don't have mana problems now, expect to see them a ton of shit like CM and Lich and Kotl, even a few others

On October 21 2013 04:45 McTeazy wrote:


what good is 10hp regen for you?
and how often do you spend 13 seconds not attacking?

On October 21 2013 03:51 trinxified wrote:


Yeah because of the Tranqs change, you can't split farm the jungle (lanes too) efficiently and effectively anymore.

That earlier Meepo clone is to help for laning phase early, but it doesn't offset his indirect nerf. That means you'll have to get your farm from a lane, which isn't great either because you're not getting the added XP.

On October 21 2013 04:45 McTeazy wrote:


they aren't even good on those supports though... what good is 10hp regen for you? and how often do you spend 13 seconds not attacking? i never liked even pre nerf tranquils on those heroes since you need hp so badly as a support. treads are better in every way imo