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On February 22 2014 08:20 GranDGranT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 08:01 SnowfaLL wrote:On February 22 2014 06:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Fear stepping down as captain in my view can only be a good thing. We've been through three or four EG incarnations that have suffered from a lack of leadership in game, and really it's been since Maelk was active that EG's coordination and tactics have matched their play in lanes. I do wonder about zai and ppd's skill level compared to Fogged and MSS, but ppd seems to have been the guy making the strat calls and keeping everything together for Sadboys, so even if there is a step down in skill it seems to be worth it. I suppose my biggest question is about rtz and whether his mouth will get him in trouble once he signs. ppd is a HoN vet, im sure his experience in running a team is more than most western players. Seems like EG wanted another polarizing "IdrA" type figure, and Arteezy is their selection. The similarities are quite striking. I'm positive EG as an organization took a huge hit when they fired IdrA (even if it needed to be done) I wouldnt put it quite that way even though its close (arteezy part). Also, Yes Peterpandam Started in HoN and was known as a scrub for a longgggg time but Sneyking stuck by his side for a long time and he began to get quite good, he played with sneyking/swindlemelonzz for probably 1-2 years and was by far the best support player by the time he decided to leave. I think there is actually VoDs of us playing HoN on my twitch channel. The fact you are saying they are taking a Skill cut is absurd. Fogged I would say is definately the most skilled player EG had but they used him as a support player for some reason (other players sucked at support I suppose). in HoN Fogged was one of thee best Offlane/Mids along with Korok and All of Fnatic. But for playing Support PPD is an amazing Warder/Laner. Zai is by far "another Arteezy" if we are going by age. Hes only 16 and hes won massive amounts of Tournies back in HoN and is by far the most Technically skilled of EG now. Once His Visage and Chen become Better I would put him at the top of 4 players. As for The Idra/Arteezy thing, Its not hard to see that Arteezy is by far a top 3 mid player. Hes not even that bad mannered and definately doesnt do stupid shit in tournaments. People seem to think if your good and "Bad mannered" you are the next idra. Arteezy doesn't rage quit tourney games nor throw on purpose if he sees something wrong. Much like every other Dota player (See ixmike or really anyone) they trash talk people over Twitter for fun and also Shit talk in Pubs, The thing about that is everyone does it in Dota 2. Also Though its not really related, People should watch out for JiggleBilly on Ehug along with MSS, Should be a good duo.
Honestly, from watching Arteezy's stream he doesn't even really bm or shit talk teammates as much as people say he does (sure as hell doesn't tell people to get cancer like Idra used to). He does it more to people he knows, which is usually just trolling/joking around anyways. He can be comparable to Idra I guess in some ways, but like Grant said most of the North American Dota playerbase can be.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
What's the connection between Idra and Arteezy supposed to be, anyway? I don't really follow Starcraft, but as far as I understand Idra used to be the best foreigner a long time ago, has a long legacy coming from bw, is badmannered, rages a lot, complains about balance and has a lot of diehard fans. I would say Arteezy is more of an opposite of Idra if anything.
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On February 22 2014 08:08 braincandy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 07:38 AnonymousSC2 wrote:On February 22 2014 06:59 Spicy_Curry wrote:
I hope RTZ brings some idra flavor to EG. Can only be a good thing IMO "I hope RTZ bring some rage and zero results to EG. Can only be better than what theyve had in the past because at least they might get some press." this guys got a sad life.
this guys a realist. What does not jumping on the arteezy fan boy train or the EG fan boy train have anything to do with my life. Use your braincandy bro. Be real, you think this EG is gonna be TI champs? give me a break
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Well at least EG pays their players I'm pretty sure, which is sadly not something you can take for granted in the Dota2 scene it seems.
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On February 22 2014 09:32 AnonymousSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 08:08 braincandy wrote:On February 22 2014 07:38 AnonymousSC2 wrote:On February 22 2014 06:59 Spicy_Curry wrote:
I hope RTZ brings some idra flavor to EG. Can only be a good thing IMO "I hope RTZ bring some rage and zero results to EG. Can only be better than what theyve had in the past because at least they might get some press." this guys got a sad life. this guys a realist. What does not jumping on the arteezy fan boy train or the EG fan boy train have anything to do with my life. Use your braincandy bro. Be real, you think this EG is gonna be TI champs? give me a break
idk man. i think you're sad.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
arteezy is way more mannered than idra lol. don't get the connection at all. he just wants to play and win the game.
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On February 22 2014 08:56 cecek wrote:
What's the connection between Idra and Arteezy supposed to be, anyway? I don't really follow Starcraft, but as far as I understand Idra used to be the best foreigner a long time ago, has a long legacy coming from bw, is badmannered, rages a lot, complains about balance and has a lot of diehard fans. I would say Arteezy is more of an opposite of Idra if anything.
maybe they know each other ? no ?
i mean i know that Loda and Jaedong know each other. no idea how did they know each other.
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Dager = raged? this makes some sense
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On February 22 2014 07:04 WolfintheSheep wrote:MSS is on EHUG. Has been for awhile now.
But MSS ran away from his home to join EG. It went well only for a while
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lol yeah MSS left his family for eg. I bet they are having the last laugh now 
i honestly thought brax and 1437 will feature in the new eg =/
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On February 22 2014 08:20 GranDGranT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 08:01 SnowfaLL wrote:On February 22 2014 06:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Fear stepping down as captain in my view can only be a good thing. We've been through three or four EG incarnations that have suffered from a lack of leadership in game, and really it's been since Maelk was active that EG's coordination and tactics have matched their play in lanes. I do wonder about zai and ppd's skill level compared to Fogged and MSS, but ppd seems to have been the guy making the strat calls and keeping everything together for Sadboys, so even if there is a step down in skill it seems to be worth it. I suppose my biggest question is about rtz and whether his mouth will get him in trouble once he signs. ppd is a HoN vet, im sure his experience in running a team is more than most western players. Seems like EG wanted another polarizing "IdrA" type figure, and Arteezy is their selection. The similarities are quite striking. I'm positive EG as an organization took a huge hit when they fired IdrA (even if it needed to be done) I wouldnt put it quite that way even though its close (arteezy part). Also, Yes Peterpandam Started in HoN and was known as a scrub for a longgggg time but Sneyking stuck by his side for a long time and he began to get quite good, he played with sneyking/swindlemelonzz for probably 1-2 years and was by far the best support player by the time he decided to leave. I think there is actually VoDs of us playing HoN on my twitch channel. The fact you are saying they are taking a Skill cut is absurd. Fogged I would say is definately the most skilled player EG had but they used him as a support player for some reason (other players sucked at support I suppose). in HoN Fogged was one of thee best Offlane/Mids along with Korok and All of Fnatic. But for playing Support PPD is an amazing Warder/Laner. Zai is by far "another Arteezy" if we are going by age. Hes only 16 and hes won massive amounts of Tournies back in HoN and is by far the most Technically skilled of EG now. Once His Visage and Chen become Better I would put him at the top of 4 players. As for The Idra/Arteezy thing, Its not hard to see that Arteezy is by far a top 3 mid player. Hes not even that bad mannered and definately doesnt do stupid shit in tournaments. People seem to think if your good and "Bad mannered" you are the next idra. Arteezy doesn't rage quit tourney games nor throw on purpose if he sees something wrong. Much like every other Dota player (See ixmike or really anyone) they trash talk people over Twitter for fun and also Shit talk in Pubs, The thing about that is everyone does it in Dota 2. Also Though its not really related, People should watch out for JiggleBilly on Ehug along with MSS, Should be a good duo.
whoa slow down there buddy. i'm not sure if you watch only the na scene but there are alot of things you've got wrong. arteezy doesn't make it top anything in terms of mid. nor does the unknown hon player who transitioned into dota 2. you would be discounting the likes of ferarri, fy, cty, mushi, dendi, yaphets, fear, etc. not to mention it seems you know NOTHING about who the mid champs in NA are. relic, uni, and those who are associated to those 2. i've been watching arteezy's sf and mid for a while and if it came down to 1v1s at this point i'd put good money i'd win against him. if he didn't beat relic? yeah there's no way he's going to beat the people who are better than relic.
if we're talking about being a good mid player that works with the team well i'd agree with you, but in terms of technical 1v1 skill, he doesn't make the list rofl, please don't talk about topics you don't know, it's making you lose credibility.
and 2nd, hon is NOT dota. yeah they're alike, doesn't mean the skill transfers. it's as laughable as the statement made by select when he joined dota 2 "there are things you can abuse with apm that people don't know about" and this comes from a guy who was at one point friends with select. the notion that skill in 1 similar game correlates to skill in another automatically is misguided.
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On February 22 2014 19:39 saocyn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 08:20 GranDGranT wrote:On February 22 2014 08:01 SnowfaLL wrote:On February 22 2014 06:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Fear stepping down as captain in my view can only be a good thing. We've been through three or four EG incarnations that have suffered from a lack of leadership in game, and really it's been since Maelk was active that EG's coordination and tactics have matched their play in lanes. I do wonder about zai and ppd's skill level compared to Fogged and MSS, but ppd seems to have been the guy making the strat calls and keeping everything together for Sadboys, so even if there is a step down in skill it seems to be worth it. I suppose my biggest question is about rtz and whether his mouth will get him in trouble once he signs. ppd is a HoN vet, im sure his experience in running a team is more than most western players. Seems like EG wanted another polarizing "IdrA" type figure, and Arteezy is their selection. The similarities are quite striking. I'm positive EG as an organization took a huge hit when they fired IdrA (even if it needed to be done) I wouldnt put it quite that way even though its close (arteezy part). Also, Yes Peterpandam Started in HoN and was known as a scrub for a longgggg time but Sneyking stuck by his side for a long time and he began to get quite good, he played with sneyking/swindlemelonzz for probably 1-2 years and was by far the best support player by the time he decided to leave. I think there is actually VoDs of us playing HoN on my twitch channel. The fact you are saying they are taking a Skill cut is absurd. Fogged I would say is definately the most skilled player EG had but they used him as a support player for some reason (other players sucked at support I suppose). in HoN Fogged was one of thee best Offlane/Mids along with Korok and All of Fnatic. But for playing Support PPD is an amazing Warder/Laner. Zai is by far "another Arteezy" if we are going by age. Hes only 16 and hes won massive amounts of Tournies back in HoN and is by far the most Technically skilled of EG now. Once His Visage and Chen become Better I would put him at the top of 4 players. As for The Idra/Arteezy thing, Its not hard to see that Arteezy is by far a top 3 mid player. Hes not even that bad mannered and definately doesnt do stupid shit in tournaments. People seem to think if your good and "Bad mannered" you are the next idra. Arteezy doesn't rage quit tourney games nor throw on purpose if he sees something wrong. Much like every other Dota player (See ixmike or really anyone) they trash talk people over Twitter for fun and also Shit talk in Pubs, The thing about that is everyone does it in Dota 2. Also Though its not really related, People should watch out for JiggleBilly on Ehug along with MSS, Should be a good duo. whoa slow down there buddy. i'm not sure if you watch only the na scene but there are alot of things you've got wrong. arteezy doesn't make it top anything in terms of mid. nor does the unknown hon player who transitioned into dota 2. you would be discounting the likes of ferarri, fy, cty, mushi, dendi, yaphets, fear, etc. not to mention it seems you know NOTHING about who the mid champs in NA are. relic, uni, and those who are associated to those 2. i've been watching arteezy's sf and mid for a while and if it came down to 1v1s at this point i'd put good money i'd win against him. if he didn't beat relic? yeah there's no way he's going to beat the people who are better than relic. if we're talking about being a good mid player that works with the team well i'd agree with you, but in terms of technical 1v1 skill, he doesn't make the list rofl, please don't talk about topics you don't know, it's making you lose credibility. and 2nd, hon is NOT dota. yeah they're alike, doesn't mean the skill transfers. it's as laughable as the statement made by select when he joined dota 2 "there are things you can abuse with apm that people don't know about" and this comes from a guy who was at one point friends with select. the notion that skill in 1 similar game correlates to skill in another automatically is misguided.
Well most people would disagree with you.
Not quite sure who you are, but GrandGrant has been close to the NA pros for like a decade now. The fact that you seem to judge rtz's skill based on his pub games and discard other people's opinion as plain wrong is pretty funny to me.
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On February 22 2014 14:26 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:lol yeah MSS left his family for eg. I bet they are having the last laugh now i honestly thought brax and 1437 will feature in the new eg =/
God pls no, 1437 is noway near the level of any of these sadboys guys.
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On February 22 2014 19:52 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 19:39 saocyn wrote:On February 22 2014 08:20 GranDGranT wrote:On February 22 2014 08:01 SnowfaLL wrote:On February 22 2014 06:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Fear stepping down as captain in my view can only be a good thing. We've been through three or four EG incarnations that have suffered from a lack of leadership in game, and really it's been since Maelk was active that EG's coordination and tactics have matched their play in lanes. I do wonder about zai and ppd's skill level compared to Fogged and MSS, but ppd seems to have been the guy making the strat calls and keeping everything together for Sadboys, so even if there is a step down in skill it seems to be worth it. I suppose my biggest question is about rtz and whether his mouth will get him in trouble once he signs. ppd is a HoN vet, im sure his experience in running a team is more than most western players. Seems like EG wanted another polarizing "IdrA" type figure, and Arteezy is their selection. The similarities are quite striking. I'm positive EG as an organization took a huge hit when they fired IdrA (even if it needed to be done) I wouldnt put it quite that way even though its close (arteezy part). Also, Yes Peterpandam Started in HoN and was known as a scrub for a longgggg time but Sneyking stuck by his side for a long time and he began to get quite good, he played with sneyking/swindlemelonzz for probably 1-2 years and was by far the best support player by the time he decided to leave. I think there is actually VoDs of us playing HoN on my twitch channel. The fact you are saying they are taking a Skill cut is absurd. Fogged I would say is definately the most skilled player EG had but they used him as a support player for some reason (other players sucked at support I suppose). in HoN Fogged was one of thee best Offlane/Mids along with Korok and All of Fnatic. But for playing Support PPD is an amazing Warder/Laner. Zai is by far "another Arteezy" if we are going by age. Hes only 16 and hes won massive amounts of Tournies back in HoN and is by far the most Technically skilled of EG now. Once His Visage and Chen become Better I would put him at the top of 4 players. As for The Idra/Arteezy thing, Its not hard to see that Arteezy is by far a top 3 mid player. Hes not even that bad mannered and definately doesnt do stupid shit in tournaments. People seem to think if your good and "Bad mannered" you are the next idra. Arteezy doesn't rage quit tourney games nor throw on purpose if he sees something wrong. Much like every other Dota player (See ixmike or really anyone) they trash talk people over Twitter for fun and also Shit talk in Pubs, The thing about that is everyone does it in Dota 2. Also Though its not really related, People should watch out for JiggleBilly on Ehug along with MSS, Should be a good duo. whoa slow down there buddy. i'm not sure if you watch only the na scene but there are alot of things you've got wrong. arteezy doesn't make it top anything in terms of mid. nor does the unknown hon player who transitioned into dota 2. you would be discounting the likes of ferarri, fy, cty, mushi, dendi, yaphets, fear, etc. not to mention it seems you know NOTHING about who the mid champs in NA are. relic, uni, and those who are associated to those 2. i've been watching arteezy's sf and mid for a while and if it came down to 1v1s at this point i'd put good money i'd win against him. if he didn't beat relic? yeah there's no way he's going to beat the people who are better than relic. if we're talking about being a good mid player that works with the team well i'd agree with you, but in terms of technical 1v1 skill, he doesn't make the list rofl, please don't talk about topics you don't know, it's making you lose credibility. and 2nd, hon is NOT dota. yeah they're alike, doesn't mean the skill transfers. it's as laughable as the statement made by select when he joined dota 2 "there are things you can abuse with apm that people don't know about" and this comes from a guy who was at one point friends with select. the notion that skill in 1 similar game correlates to skill in another automatically is misguided. Well most people would disagree with you. Not quite sure who you are, but GrandGrant has been close to the NA pros for like a decade now. The fact that you seem to judge rtz's skill based on his pub games and discard other people's opinion as plain wrong is pretty funny to me.
Just because someone has shown potential, doesnt mean he is as good as frequent proven potential like dendi, mushis etcetc. Proven and frequently shown isnt the same. Is rtz a one day fly, i dont think so but you cant compare him with the bignames yet.
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On February 22 2014 23:06 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 19:52 Mandalor wrote:On February 22 2014 19:39 saocyn wrote:On February 22 2014 08:20 GranDGranT wrote:On February 22 2014 08:01 SnowfaLL wrote:On February 22 2014 06:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Fear stepping down as captain in my view can only be a good thing. We've been through three or four EG incarnations that have suffered from a lack of leadership in game, and really it's been since Maelk was active that EG's coordination and tactics have matched their play in lanes. I do wonder about zai and ppd's skill level compared to Fogged and MSS, but ppd seems to have been the guy making the strat calls and keeping everything together for Sadboys, so even if there is a step down in skill it seems to be worth it. I suppose my biggest question is about rtz and whether his mouth will get him in trouble once he signs. ppd is a HoN vet, im sure his experience in running a team is more than most western players. Seems like EG wanted another polarizing "IdrA" type figure, and Arteezy is their selection. The similarities are quite striking. I'm positive EG as an organization took a huge hit when they fired IdrA (even if it needed to be done) I wouldnt put it quite that way even though its close (arteezy part). Also, Yes Peterpandam Started in HoN and was known as a scrub for a longgggg time but Sneyking stuck by his side for a long time and he began to get quite good, he played with sneyking/swindlemelonzz for probably 1-2 years and was by far the best support player by the time he decided to leave. I think there is actually VoDs of us playing HoN on my twitch channel. The fact you are saying they are taking a Skill cut is absurd. Fogged I would say is definately the most skilled player EG had but they used him as a support player for some reason (other players sucked at support I suppose). in HoN Fogged was one of thee best Offlane/Mids along with Korok and All of Fnatic. But for playing Support PPD is an amazing Warder/Laner. Zai is by far "another Arteezy" if we are going by age. Hes only 16 and hes won massive amounts of Tournies back in HoN and is by far the most Technically skilled of EG now. Once His Visage and Chen become Better I would put him at the top of 4 players. As for The Idra/Arteezy thing, Its not hard to see that Arteezy is by far a top 3 mid player. Hes not even that bad mannered and definately doesnt do stupid shit in tournaments. People seem to think if your good and "Bad mannered" you are the next idra. Arteezy doesn't rage quit tourney games nor throw on purpose if he sees something wrong. Much like every other Dota player (See ixmike or really anyone) they trash talk people over Twitter for fun and also Shit talk in Pubs, The thing about that is everyone does it in Dota 2. Also Though its not really related, People should watch out for JiggleBilly on Ehug along with MSS, Should be a good duo. whoa slow down there buddy. i'm not sure if you watch only the na scene but there are alot of things you've got wrong. arteezy doesn't make it top anything in terms of mid. nor does the unknown hon player who transitioned into dota 2. you would be discounting the likes of ferarri, fy, cty, mushi, dendi, yaphets, fear, etc. not to mention it seems you know NOTHING about who the mid champs in NA are. relic, uni, and those who are associated to those 2. i've been watching arteezy's sf and mid for a while and if it came down to 1v1s at this point i'd put good money i'd win against him. if he didn't beat relic? yeah there's no way he's going to beat the people who are better than relic. if we're talking about being a good mid player that works with the team well i'd agree with you, but in terms of technical 1v1 skill, he doesn't make the list rofl, please don't talk about topics you don't know, it's making you lose credibility. and 2nd, hon is NOT dota. yeah they're alike, doesn't mean the skill transfers. it's as laughable as the statement made by select when he joined dota 2 "there are things you can abuse with apm that people don't know about" and this comes from a guy who was at one point friends with select. the notion that skill in 1 similar game correlates to skill in another automatically is misguided. Well most people would disagree with you. Not quite sure who you are, but GrandGrant has been close to the NA pros for like a decade now. The fact that you seem to judge rtz's skill based on his pub games and discard other people's opinion as plain wrong is pretty funny to me. Just because someone has shown potential, doesnt mean he is as good as frequent proven potential like dendi, mushis etcetc. Proven and frequently shown isnt the same. Is rtz a one day fly, i dont think so but you cant compare him with the bignames yet.
He's a good player, a bit overated in my opinion. But defenitely okay to be in a top team! To say that he is one of the best solo mids etc is really exageration, he played like 10 games in a high level LAN, you need way more to compare him to Dendi, s4 or FATA
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On February 22 2014 19:39 saocyn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 08:20 GranDGranT wrote:On February 22 2014 08:01 SnowfaLL wrote:On February 22 2014 06:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Fear stepping down as captain in my view can only be a good thing. We've been through three or four EG incarnations that have suffered from a lack of leadership in game, and really it's been since Maelk was active that EG's coordination and tactics have matched their play in lanes. I do wonder about zai and ppd's skill level compared to Fogged and MSS, but ppd seems to have been the guy making the strat calls and keeping everything together for Sadboys, so even if there is a step down in skill it seems to be worth it. I suppose my biggest question is about rtz and whether his mouth will get him in trouble once he signs. ppd is a HoN vet, im sure his experience in running a team is more than most western players. Seems like EG wanted another polarizing "IdrA" type figure, and Arteezy is their selection. The similarities are quite striking. I'm positive EG as an organization took a huge hit when they fired IdrA (even if it needed to be done) I wouldnt put it quite that way even though its close (arteezy part). Also, Yes Peterpandam Started in HoN and was known as a scrub for a longgggg time but Sneyking stuck by his side for a long time and he began to get quite good, he played with sneyking/swindlemelonzz for probably 1-2 years and was by far the best support player by the time he decided to leave. I think there is actually VoDs of us playing HoN on my twitch channel. The fact you are saying they are taking a Skill cut is absurd. Fogged I would say is definately the most skilled player EG had but they used him as a support player for some reason (other players sucked at support I suppose). in HoN Fogged was one of thee best Offlane/Mids along with Korok and All of Fnatic. But for playing Support PPD is an amazing Warder/Laner. Zai is by far "another Arteezy" if we are going by age. Hes only 16 and hes won massive amounts of Tournies back in HoN and is by far the most Technically skilled of EG now. Once His Visage and Chen become Better I would put him at the top of 4 players. As for The Idra/Arteezy thing, Its not hard to see that Arteezy is by far a top 3 mid player. Hes not even that bad mannered and definately doesnt do stupid shit in tournaments. People seem to think if your good and "Bad mannered" you are the next idra. Arteezy doesn't rage quit tourney games nor throw on purpose if he sees something wrong. Much like every other Dota player (See ixmike or really anyone) they trash talk people over Twitter for fun and also Shit talk in Pubs, The thing about that is everyone does it in Dota 2. Also Though its not really related, People should watch out for JiggleBilly on Ehug along with MSS, Should be a good duo. whoa slow down there buddy. i'm not sure if you watch only the na scene but there are alot of things you've got wrong. arteezy doesn't make it top anything in terms of mid. nor does the unknown hon player who transitioned into dota 2. you would be discounting the likes of ferarri, fy, cty, mushi, dendi, yaphets, fear, etc. not to mention it seems you know NOTHING about who the mid champs in NA are. relic, uni, and those who are associated to those 2. i've been watching arteezy's sf and mid for a while and if it came down to 1v1s at this point i'd put good money i'd win against him. if he didn't beat relic? yeah there's no way he's going to beat the people who are better than relic. if we're talking about being a good mid player that works with the team well i'd agree with you, but in terms of technical 1v1 skill, he doesn't make the list rofl, please don't talk about topics you don't know, it's making you lose credibility. and 2nd, hon is NOT dota. yeah they're alike, doesn't mean the skill transfers. it's as laughable as the statement made by select when he joined dota 2 "there are things you can abuse with apm that people don't know about" and this comes from a guy who was at one point friends with select. the notion that skill in 1 similar game correlates to skill in another automatically is misguided.
Whoa dude, lets tone down the retard level a bit here.
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On February 22 2014 23:06 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2014 19:52 Mandalor wrote:On February 22 2014 19:39 saocyn wrote:On February 22 2014 08:20 GranDGranT wrote:On February 22 2014 08:01 SnowfaLL wrote:On February 22 2014 06:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Fear stepping down as captain in my view can only be a good thing. We've been through three or four EG incarnations that have suffered from a lack of leadership in game, and really it's been since Maelk was active that EG's coordination and tactics have matched their play in lanes. I do wonder about zai and ppd's skill level compared to Fogged and MSS, but ppd seems to have been the guy making the strat calls and keeping everything together for Sadboys, so even if there is a step down in skill it seems to be worth it. I suppose my biggest question is about rtz and whether his mouth will get him in trouble once he signs. ppd is a HoN vet, im sure his experience in running a team is more than most western players. Seems like EG wanted another polarizing "IdrA" type figure, and Arteezy is their selection. The similarities are quite striking. I'm positive EG as an organization took a huge hit when they fired IdrA (even if it needed to be done) I wouldnt put it quite that way even though its close (arteezy part). Also, Yes Peterpandam Started in HoN and was known as a scrub for a longgggg time but Sneyking stuck by his side for a long time and he began to get quite good, he played with sneyking/swindlemelonzz for probably 1-2 years and was by far the best support player by the time he decided to leave. I think there is actually VoDs of us playing HoN on my twitch channel. The fact you are saying they are taking a Skill cut is absurd. Fogged I would say is definately the most skilled player EG had but they used him as a support player for some reason (other players sucked at support I suppose). in HoN Fogged was one of thee best Offlane/Mids along with Korok and All of Fnatic. But for playing Support PPD is an amazing Warder/Laner. Zai is by far "another Arteezy" if we are going by age. Hes only 16 and hes won massive amounts of Tournies back in HoN and is by far the most Technically skilled of EG now. Once His Visage and Chen become Better I would put him at the top of 4 players. As for The Idra/Arteezy thing, Its not hard to see that Arteezy is by far a top 3 mid player. Hes not even that bad mannered and definately doesnt do stupid shit in tournaments. People seem to think if your good and "Bad mannered" you are the next idra. Arteezy doesn't rage quit tourney games nor throw on purpose if he sees something wrong. Much like every other Dota player (See ixmike or really anyone) they trash talk people over Twitter for fun and also Shit talk in Pubs, The thing about that is everyone does it in Dota 2. Also Though its not really related, People should watch out for JiggleBilly on Ehug along with MSS, Should be a good duo. whoa slow down there buddy. i'm not sure if you watch only the na scene but there are alot of things you've got wrong. arteezy doesn't make it top anything in terms of mid. nor does the unknown hon player who transitioned into dota 2. you would be discounting the likes of ferarri, fy, cty, mushi, dendi, yaphets, fear, etc. not to mention it seems you know NOTHING about who the mid champs in NA are. relic, uni, and those who are associated to those 2. i've been watching arteezy's sf and mid for a while and if it came down to 1v1s at this point i'd put good money i'd win against him. if he didn't beat relic? yeah there's no way he's going to beat the people who are better than relic. if we're talking about being a good mid player that works with the team well i'd agree with you, but in terms of technical 1v1 skill, he doesn't make the list rofl, please don't talk about topics you don't know, it's making you lose credibility. and 2nd, hon is NOT dota. yeah they're alike, doesn't mean the skill transfers. it's as laughable as the statement made by select when he joined dota 2 "there are things you can abuse with apm that people don't know about" and this comes from a guy who was at one point friends with select. the notion that skill in 1 similar game correlates to skill in another automatically is misguided. Well most people would disagree with you. Not quite sure who you are, but GrandGrant has been close to the NA pros for like a decade now. The fact that you seem to judge rtz's skill based on his pub games and discard other people's opinion as plain wrong is pretty funny to me. Just because someone has shown potential, doesnt mean he is as good as frequent proven potential like dendi, mushis etcetc. Proven and frequently shown isnt the same. Is rtz a one day fly, i dont think so but you cant compare him with the bignames yet.
That's fine and I totally agree. The guy I replied to just made it look like there are tons of players that are better at mid right now than Arteezy and after looking at his stream he's comfortable he can beat him 1on1.
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the guy claims he can beat rtz and personally knows select, no proof whatsoever. and then discards everyone elses opinions. rofl ok buds
i just hope now eg will let them keep the sadboys logo some way or another, it was just too funny to drop it now
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