Shots Fired! RoS Nerfbat thread - Page 3

On October 13 2013 21:57 Iblis wrote:


Attack speed everywhere possible is going to be even more optimal

On October 14 2013 00:08 Mithhaike wrote:

Not an issue. Did you play D3 when it just started? Just put LOH gems into a socketed weapon.

On October 14 2013 12:03 Burrfoot wrote:
Channeled attacks cost scaling with attack speed is a terrible mechanic.

Flux: Okay, Magic Find and Gold Find via Paragon Points. One of the things you guys said when you were first adding in the Paragon Levels was that you didn't want Magic Find to be an essential property on equipment, so you were going to give it via passive bonuses. That philosophy appears to be completely gone in the new Paragon system. You can add Magic Find, but it's in the tab competing with what... Movement Speed, Pickup Radius, and Resource regen, I think? And most of my chars would like all three of those more than Magic Find. So is Magic Find going to become more important on gear? Are you switching how it works on gear?

Travis Day: Actually, we've made some changes to how Magic Find works in the game. One of the biggest things we did with that... for example if I have 100% Magic Find from my gear, the cap today is 400%. Or is it 300%?

Flux: It's 300% from gear and you can add more from...

Travis: *laughing* A year and a half working on the expansion, and I don't even remember....

So basically Magic Find will provide less and less of a return the higher the quality of the item is. [He means the item being dropped and affected by your character's Magic Find.]

So you actually only get 10% of your Magic Find applies to the legendary. So, since it isn't that impactful a stat anymore, we didn't feel like we needed all the restrictions we had on it. And we no longer needed to automatically just give it to everyone. Like we can't have two people with like, five times different reward schedule, like on top of your character efficiency and the skills and how familiar you are with the game... we wanted to really diminish that gap. [The gap between the haves with amazing equipment, and the have-nots.]

As a result we've made some changes to Magic Find, and we took it out of Paragon since it's no longer as mandatory as it used to be.

Pickup radius was reduced because we've ultimately decided that the current values do more harm than good.
With the incoming changes coming to combat pacing, health globes are more valuable than in the current live environment. You don't just want them to proc passives, hopefully you'll actually want them to (gasp) heal!
After many (many) hours of playtesting we concluded that large health globe pickup causes you to heal without even realizing why. One word we use a lot about on the team is INTENTIONALITY. We want to bring back some of the intentionality of picking up a health globe.
Remember back in Nightmare difficulty when you'd save a health globe and come back to pick it up later? Or maybe you saw a health globe drop and you'd brave your way past some baddies to pick it up because you wanted the heal? We love that dramatic moment, and we want it to happen more often. Considering it barely happens at all in the live game, even happening once in a blue moon would be great for the dramatic moment it creates.
All that said, this change is still being evaluated. So far results seem good. Of course, we wouldn't want to inadvertantly nerf some other builds such as Witch Doctor passives that look at your pickup radius. If we like the change overall we'll adjust the passive to make sure it doesn't become useless.

On November 16 2013 21:44 Burrfoot wrote:
And Pickup Radius gets the nerf:



So folks, don't pick up globes unless you really want to!

On November 18 2013 11:22 Burrfoot wrote:
Having played 2 builds (DH build with Vengeance and WD with Grave Injustice) that really rely on PUR to grab globes, makes me sad when I read about the nerf.

On November 18 2013 16:12 Cascade wrote:
I'm fine with builds losing viability. They will modify the skill tree a lot and redo the items quite some bit as I understand, so imo it'd limit them far too much if they had to maintain viability of all the now mainstream builds. Actually, I'd be disappointed if I were to continue playing archon and cm/ww in the expansion. It's not like people will be sad for "omg now my gear is useless due to my build no longer being viable!!", as all current gear will already be useless on lvl 70 anyway.

Only thing is that people with highly specialised gear towards a build that lose viability (as my cm/ww and archon gear I expect) will not start levelling up as quickly first day (before they find gear that is better anyway). But I feel that a lost half hour first day for some people is a perfectly fine price to pay to get a more thought through and consistent gear and skills for the rest of the expansion.

GIBBE NUU BEELDZ PL0X!!!

On November 19 2013 00:31 Sek-Kuar wrote:


It amazes me how many people are talking like if they were going to stay on non-ladder after RoS release.

I come from D2 and there nobody ever played, crafted, leveled, PvEed on non-ladder... non-ladder was only for hardcore PvP, but all other content moved on ladder.
Is it possible that WoW didnt ever had proper reset? So that people coming from there have no clue what ladder reset actually is?

I cant imagine any other reason why to care about current items, levels etc. other than that people have no idea whats coming...

On November 19 2013 02:10 DODswe4 wrote:

there is no resets in WoW, I played d2 for along time and I never liked ladder, I played it because the put some exclusive items there, I would have been happier if that wasn't the case. if there is no special feature that I wouldn't wanna play without in ladder, I will not be playing ladder.

On November 19 2013 00:31 Sek-Kuar wrote:


It amazes me how many people are talking like if they were going to stay on non-ladder after RoS release.

I come from D2 and there nobody ever played, crafted, leveled, PvEed on non-ladder... non-ladder was only for hardcore PvP, but all other content moved on ladder.
Is it possible that WoW didnt ever had proper reset? So that people coming from there have no clue what ladder reset actually is?

I cant imagine any other reason why to care about current items, levels etc. other than that people have no idea whats coming...