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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Yacobs
United States846 Posts
On February 22 2013 06:26 Sn0_Man wrote: I would assume not. The reason they can allow offline mode on the PS3/4 is that they are less concerned about item hacks and stuff in on consoles. On PC's they are too afraid of client-side item generation and drop tables that they can't secure well enough for a RMAH system to work. Hacking has almost nothing to do with it. Blizzard basically implicitly announced that the PC version's online-only requirement was glorified DRM. Which basically means they lied about their reasons prior to the PC release. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On February 21 2013 19:08 Zaqwert wrote: Seriously, everyone check out Path of Exile, I'm obsessed with it now, 19 random guys from New Zealand totally pwned big bad Blizzard at their own game (in terms of a quality game that is) Honestly if I didn't know better and someone told me PoE was D3 from Blizzard and that D3 was PoE from some tiny developer I would believe it. PoE is what the Diablo series deserved. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On February 22 2013 04:32 serum321 wrote: The amount of people crying in this thread amazes me, you act like you are entitled to everything, no one put a gun to your head and forced you to purchase d3. I don't care, but if it'll allow me to use a controller on pc version(don't know if it will) that would be awesome. people are not really crying and desperate for a better d3. just expressing disappointment, and perhaps a tint of sadness over the decline of a great franchise. | ||
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RusHXceL
United States1004 Posts
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On February 22 2013 07:14 emythrel wrote: well you can already have a total of 6 spells active, thats the 4 main buttons plus shoulder buttons and directional controls, boom done. There was a reason they simplified the controls and available active skills, this was probably it. D3 is very much like Baldur's gate: dark alliance in controls and that was my favourite console game ever. More like 12. Up/down/left/right are often binded to spells/actions nowadays instead of being used for movement, and there are 4 shoulder keys. People are quick to scrape goat things, like RMAH, even when said things have nothing to do with the problem itself. Itemization has nothing to with with console games, neither do having Chris Metzen being in charge of the story. B.net 0.2 might have to do with console gaming (from what I heard the guy was in charge of xbox 360 before), but that's hardly a problem only with D3. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On February 21 2013 11:38 PR4Y wrote: LOL oh god this is too much.... Blizzard finally trying to break into the console world... It's just unfortunate they have completely ruined a franchise while doing so. I played THE SHIT out of Diablo 3 (1200+ hours on 3 characters) and finally realized that the game is just bad. It's a very serious addiction that is hard to overcome, but in the end I realized that it's just a money grabbing waste of time. I'd be interested in seeing how the (RM)AH plays on these platforms... You really can't be upset at a game if you played it that long. For the amount you played, 1200+ hours was definitely a good deal. | ||
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PR4Y
United States260 Posts
On February 22 2013 15:45 killa_robot wrote: You really can't be upset at a game if you played it that long. For the amount you played, 1200+ hours was definitely a good deal. No offense, but I'm SERIOUSLY tired of hearing this from people. I'm the type of gamer where if a game is good and has a decent endgame, I can play it for 20,000 hours and not get bored. I played D2/LOD for 7+ years of my life... and I played it MORE per day on average then I ever played D3. I still go back to D2 on occasion to mess around and keep my characters active. What you are saying is basically that all games that are released have a direct relationship with Entertainment Value per Dollar? At what point would it be acceptable to hold my opinion that D3 was a complete waste of time? 500 hours? 200 hours? You're trying to tell me that a $60 sequel to one of THE most popular online games with seemingly endless fun, has a finite amount of entertainment value? Should D3's box have a warning label saying that if you play for XXX amount of hours, your opinion on the value of the game is no longer valid? I'm sorry, but I don't buy it for one second. If I play a game for 300 hours because it took me that long to reach endgame, and I've been LED TO BELIEVE that it has the same amount of re-playability as THE PREVIOUS VERSION, and suddenly discover this is not the case... I'm not entitled to voice my opinion about how the game has let me down? The whole "OH well you played for 1000 hours so you can't complain, you got your money's worth" statement really tickles me in a way that is hard to express. D3 is NOT a worthy sequel to D2/LOD... period. LET ME BE CLEAR: I don't think D3 is a bad game at all. The combat is smooth and fluid. The gameplay mechanics are fast-paced and functional with VERY minimal bugs. Basically, the CORE of the game is actually quite impressive. However, the most important step in keeping players interested in your game is depth. The itemization is completely uninspired when compared to the previous game. Social features are pretty much non-existant, leading to a depressingly anti-social atmosphere which is CLEARLY visible in the general chat. From my experience on D3, there is no sense of community. D2/LOD always made me feel like I was actually part of the community. On D3 I just feel like a pawn in their sick plot to milk money from gamers by slapping a DIABLO sticker on the box. BLAHHH I'll stop ranting because I'm sure you've heard it all before... I'm just so deeply saddened by what Blizzard has become over the years. I don't even care that it's being ported to console in all honesty... but KNOWING that the game was toned down JUST so that a console version could be made possible? That's a slap in my face that is going to leave a stinging sensation that isn't going to go away any time soon. Also I completely agree with all the other people giving their recommendation of PoE... I've been playing since November and it is an AWESOME game. I could give you 1000 reasons why to play PoE and give up on D3... but in reality you just have to try it for yourself. It's slow at first, and YES the combat ISN'T NEARLY as smooth as in Diablo... but once you get past the surface you'll realize it's a MUCH better game. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On February 22 2013 16:10 PR4Y wrote: No offense, but I'm SERIOUSLY tired of hearing this from people. I'm the type of gamer where if a game is good and has a decent endgame, I can play it for 20,000 hours and not get bored. I played D2/LOD for 7+ years of my life... and I played it MORE per day on average then I ever played D3. I still go back to D2 on occasion to mess around and keep my characters active. What you are saying is basically that all games that are released have a direct relationship with Entertainment Value per Dollar? At what point would it be acceptable to hold my opinion that D3 was a complete waste of time? 500 hours? 200 hours? You're trying to tell me that a $60 sequel to one of THE most popular online games with seemingly endless fun, has a finite amount of entertainment value? Should D3's box have a warning label saying that if you play for XXX amount of hours, your opinion on the value of the game is no longer valid? I'm sorry, but I don't buy it for one second. If I play a game for 300 hours because it took me that long to reach endgame, and I've been LED TO BELIEVE that it has the same amount of re-playability as THE PREVIOUS VERSION, and suddenly discover this is not the case... I'm not entitled to voice my opinion about how the game has let me down? The whole "OH well you played for 1000 hours so you can't complain, you got your money's worth" statement really tickles me in a way that is hard to express. D3 is NOT a worthy sequel to D2/LOD... period. LET ME BE CLEAR: I don't think D3 is a bad game at all. The combat is smooth and fluid. The gameplay mechanics are fast-paced and functional with VERY minimal bugs. Basically, the CORE of the game is actually quite impressive. However, the most important step in keeping players interested in your game is depth. The itemization is completely uninspired when compared to the previous game. Social features are pretty much non-existant, leading to a depressingly anti-social atmosphere which is CLEARLY visible in the general chat. From my experience on D3, there is no sense of community. D2/LOD always made me feel like I was actually part of the community. On D3 I just feel like a pawn in their sick plot to milk money from gamers by slapping a DIABLO sticker on the box. BLAHHH I'll stop ranting because I'm sure you've heard it all before... I'm just so deeply saddened by what Blizzard has become over the years. I don't even care that it's being ported to console in all honesty... but KNOWING that the game was toned down JUST so that a console version could be made possible? That's a slap in my face that is going to leave a stinging sensation that isn't going to go away any time soon. Also I completely agree with all the other people giving their recommendation of PoE... I've been playing since November and it is an AWESOME game. I could give you 1000 reasons why to play PoE and give up on D3... but in reality you just have to try it for yourself. It's slow at first, and YES the combat ISN'T NEARLY as smooth as in Diablo... but once you get past the surface you'll realize it's a MUCH better game. You're bitching that the game isn't meeting your expectations, when a game doesn't HAVE to do that at all. A game has to entertain you in order to be a successful game. Just like a movie doesn't need depth or a great plot or anything like that to be a good movie, it just needs to be entertaining. You're saying the game is a money grab waste of time and bad, WHILE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S FUN. It's not a money grab waste of time, it just didn't meet your expectations. Not meeting your expectations doesn't make it BAD. Keep in mind, I'm someone who didn't buy the game, because I played the free beta weekend and from that determined it wouldn't be fun. Not only did you buy the game, but you played it for countless hours, AND you found it to be fun. You have a very warped definition of a waste of money if you consider your purchase of D3 to be one. | ||
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
On February 21 2013 21:22 Nausea wrote: Could not agree more. I tried the game for a couple of hours and I'm addicted to it now. This should be the real D3. Why is there only 2 reviews of this game on metacritic? Edit: Oh, is it beta or something like that? | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On February 22 2013 16:24 killa_robot wrote: You're bitching that the game isn't meeting your expectations, when a game doesn't HAVE to do that at all. A game has to entertain you in order to be a successful game. Just like a movie doesn't need depth or a great plot or anything like that to be a good movie, it just needs to be entertaining. You're saying the game is a money grab waste of time and bad, WHILE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S FUN. It's not a money grab waste of time, it just didn't meet your expectations. Not meeting your expectations doesn't make it BAD. Keep in mind, I'm someone who didn't buy the game, because I played the free beta weekend and from that determined it wouldn't be fun. Not only did you buy the game, but you played it for countless hours, AND you found it to be fun. You have a very warped definition of a waste of money if you consider your purchase of D3 to be one. No offence to you, i'm using your post as an example here, but...what the fuck happened with so many people's perception of "value" in games? FPS used to have at least 10h of single player game-play, multiplayer with lan, etc. Now, 4h tech demo instead of a campaign is the standard for a "game of the year". When it comes to lengendary ( yeah.. ) games like Diablo, Starcraft, etc, we should expect to be blown away by all the awesome, not just slightly entertained. If Ferrari make a new model they can not get away with just a "good" sports car...it has to be the fucking best, if not, it's a disappointment. It's like companies today, are telling people what they should consider value, instead of the people being the ones to decide. It's not fucking ok for D3 to be a good game, it has to be AT LEAST as epic as D2. Both D3 and SC2 are are disappointments and we should scream and bitch about it as often as possible because that's the only way Blizzard will even think to make improvements. They are only about profits now, so it's down to the community to drive the quality up. Juts look at the crap Browder was doing with HOTS...Warhound as mech?? remove the Carrier?? Nothing short of an absolute shitstorm is ever going to make Blizz take a good look at its games and at least try to put in an effort. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On February 22 2013 01:59 Zelniq wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/18yhdt/diablo_3_offline_play_on_playstation_3_4/ Wow blizzard.. Just wow. Give us PC users BS reasons for why d3 had to be online only, then pull this on us. Fuck.... | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On February 22 2013 16:10 PR4Y wrote: All you managed to say is that D2 is a better Skinner's Box than D3, which I whole heartedly agree. Maybe the same is true about PoE as well, but since I haven't played it, I won't comment.No offense, but I'm SERIOUSLY tired of hearing this from people. I'm the type of gamer where if a game is good and has a decent endgame, I can play it for 20,000 hours and not get bored. I played D2/LOD for 7+ years of my life... and I played it MORE per day on average then I ever played D3. I still go back to D2 on occasion to mess around and keep my characters active. | ||
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Teddyman
Finland362 Posts
On February 22 2013 13:38 achan1058 wrote: More like 12. Up/down/left/right are often binded to spells/actions nowadays instead of being used for movement, and there are 4 shoulder keys. People are quick to scrape goat things, like RMAH, even when said things have nothing to do with the problem itself. Itemization has nothing to with with console games, neither do having Chris Metzen being in charge of the story. B.net 0.2 might have to do with console gaming (from what I heard the guy was in charge of xbox 360 before), but that's hardly a problem only with D3. I agree but posting like this is pointless. It's not possible to have a reasonable discussion on TL any more. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On February 22 2013 17:35 Sapphire.lux wrote: No offence to you, i'm using your post as an example here, but...what the fuck happened with so many people's perception of "value" in games? FPS used to have at least 10h of single player game-play, multiplayer with lan, etc. Now, 4h tech demo instead of a campaign is the standard for a "game of the year". When it comes to lengendary ( yeah.. ) games like Diablo, Starcraft, etc, we should expect to be blown away by all the awesome, not just slightly entertained. If Ferrari make a new model they can not get away with just a "good" sports car...it has to be the fucking best, if not, it's a disappointment. It's like companies today, are telling people what they should consider value, instead of the people being the ones to decide. It's not fucking ok for D3 to be a good game, it has to be AT LEAST as epic as D2. Both D3 and SC2 are are disappointments and we should scream and bitch about it as often as possible because that's the only way Blizzard will even think to make improvements. They are only about profits now, so it's down to the community to drive the quality up. Juts look at the crap Browder was doing with HOTS...Warhound as mech?? remove the Carrier?? Nothing short of an absolute shitstorm is ever going to make Blizz take a good look at its games and at least try to put in an effort. Im addicted. I hate to say it, but I play this game a lot, I don't enjoy it, I'm just addicted to it, and I want to play it. That's how the game is designed, and I hate it. I spend hundreds of dollars on this game, regret it after, but what can I do. Ill try and stop, but ugh, I dunno, I don't think it's a good game, it's just designed well for is purpose, just my 2 cents though. | ||
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Lesrah
Portugal110 Posts
On February 21 2013 10:05 marttorn wrote: I could honestly think of 3-4 different diseases i'd rather catch, than try this on console :/ Please, enlighten me. | ||
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PR4Y
United States260 Posts
On February 22 2013 18:45 FiWiFaKi wrote: Im addicted. I hate to say it, but I play this game a lot, I don't enjoy it, I'm just addicted to it, and I want to play it. That's how the game is designed, and I hate it. I spend hundreds of dollars on this game, regret it after, but what can I do. Ill try and stop, but ugh, I dunno, I don't think it's a good game, it's just designed well for is purpose, just my 2 cents though. THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FELT WHILE PLAYING DIABLO 3. I have an addictive personality. I had VERY high hopes for D3, and despite the fact that I was well aware of some majorly glaring issues with the game, I STILL continued to play. Money isn't as big of an issue in my life as I'm blessed with a decent paying job and after paying the bills and feeding my wife and son, I have a decent chunk of money left over. With D3, I ALWAYS felt like that extra $50/month worth of gold would of pushed my level of fun with the game to the next level. This game WAS AND IS a money grab, designed to MAKE you want to better your gear. Don't misunderstand me with that statement, though. Gear progression obviously is the name of the game, no doubt... However, after farming for hundreds and thousands of hours and not seeing any major upgrades, the RMAH starts looking like a viable option. Once they hook you into the RMAH, it's hard to stop. Call it what you want to call it, this game IS a money grab. Even MP levels are a shady system in and of itself. Inferno was becoming such a faceroll environment, so Blizzard added impossibly difficult settings so that you feel pressured into needing stronger gear. That gear doesn't just drop out of the sky in a nice little package with a bow and ribbon... it comes with a price tag. Sure, some people were lucky enough to land that $250 / 2billion item back when the economy wasn't completely trashed... but for the rest of us who farmed our asses off and still had nothing to show for it, what were we to do? Everyone else was progressing normally and I started to feel the pressure of "keeping up with the Jones'" so to speak. After all this, I finally realized that I just had to pull myself away from the situation and get out before my addiction became too severe. I sold EVERYTHING that I had purchased on the game. I lost quite a bit of value compared to my initial investment due to inflation / over-saturation of the gear market, but I simply needed to do it. Diablo 3 isn't a game, whatsoever. It's quite literally a casino. It's a great game when you look at the combat mechanics and the smooth actions... but when you strip that away, you realize that all the bells and whistles are ONLY there to distract you from the truth that Blizzard's NUMBER ONE priority is to make you feel pressured into spending money on their RMAH. D3 is a gamblers worst nightmare, as I and MANY others have likely experienced... Remember after the RMAH was released and there was MAJOR bugs with the game, invincibility exploits, CLEAR balance issues, massive gear checks, crashing, etc... Now do you also remember that for almost 2 months the game didn't receive a SINGLE PATCH to try and fix any of those issues? OH, SORRY! Their precious RMAH was fixed... but not the game? And when a patch FINALLY came in that wasn't primarily focused on the RMAH... what did we get? The same old legendaries with re-vamped stats and some added generic particle effects to "wow" the audience. Blizzard didn't care that their legendary items were completely uninspired and garbage... they saw and opportunity to cash in on the RMAH by bringing new items into the economy. It's ALL THIS shady business that I finally came to realize I MUST get away from this game. So for you to say "oh well you spent 1200 hours playing, aren't you thankful?... I simply laugh at your ignorance because from my perspective, I would of gladly quit 1000 hours ago if I wasn't somehow magically hooked into it like a 16 year old boy smoking his fist cigarette. That's all I have to say. | ||
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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