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The Hardcore Self-Found Challenge

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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:44:56
October 30 2012 02:39 GMT
#1
Hi!
Since 1.05, the idea of playing through a character with only self-found items, none from AH or donated from other characters, has intrigued me. With drop rates buffed and MP0 viable for self-found characters, I thought it could perhaps be possible to play through the game entirely on self-found characters, and in hardcore for an added challenge.
To add on to this, it might be more fun to do with others! Therefore, I thought I'd share.

RULES AND REQUIREMENTS:
Start a fresh HC level 1 character on the Americas (or EU, if someone else wants to coordinate)
You may ONLY play with items found by THAT CHARACTER, OR items found by others in GAMES THAT YOU WERE PRESENT IN. You may only play with other self-found characters. No gems or anything may be donated from higher level characters. Crafting can be used, but only mats that your character gets through salvaging his own items. Vendors you can make a personal choice on.
Add me on skype: pokebunny with the message "hardcore self-found"
I will then add you to a skype group to coordinate players and share our stories, because there are no chat channels. From here, you can meet up and play with other self-found friends! You don't have to join us on skype, and you can feel free to just do it on your own, but I thought this might be the best way to coordinate.
One question you might have: why coordinate on Skype? Because there are no chat channels and there is a friend list limit, I figured players might not want to add a ton of others just to find friends to play with. Also, more new players could join the challenge, and work with us towards beating inferno! There's no prize for being the first one to do it or anything, just thought it would be fun to have a community effort and try something new. I'll be starting a barb probably, and please feel free to add me on skype, bnet, or just reply here if you'd like to join me!
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 02:42:12
October 30 2012 02:40 GMT
#2
(I posted this on reddit yesterday, I am since level 18. But others are just starting now!)
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 03:02:17
October 30 2012 03:02 GMT
#3
I've done things like this before, and experimented with some sillier stuff, such as the recycle run, where you are obliged to equip whatever loot drops, if you can wear it, and when something else drops you put that on. How good or bad the gear is doesn't matter, of course.

I also like to turn on a different language, preferably one with a different alphabet, like korean. So I'm sitting there, on my recycling HC wizard character with korean language pack installed, and I realize I'm bored with the game.

Anyway, good luck to you, this is lots of fun to do!
memes are a dish best served dank
Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
October 30 2012 03:22 GMT
#4
i'd love to do it if i had more time on my hands =( good luck!
Nightfall.589
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada766 Posts
October 31 2012 03:18 GMT
#5
This has the biggest impact during the end-game - by motivating you to play your character, instead of wasting time bargain sniping at the AH.
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Zyrnak
Profile Joined February 2011
United States179 Posts
October 31 2012 03:28 GMT
#6
I'd argue there is one more challenge to self-found that should be added: no powerleveling. Level up your character only with similar leveled characters, killing each boss on each difficulty in sequence.

Sounds fun!
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 31 2012 04:14 GMT
#7
On October 31 2012 12:28 Zyrnak wrote:
I'd argue there is one more challenge to self-found that should be added: no powerleveling. Level up your character only with similar leveled characters, killing each boss on each difficulty in sequence.

Sounds fun!

Ah, of course. I left that out, because I just kind of assumed it in my head

Of course, since there probably won't be a ton of people doing it, playing with friends a few levels above or below is inevitable - but as long as it's not unreasonable carrying, it's fine.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Brainiac_Br
Profile Joined December 2011
Brazil14 Posts
October 31 2012 15:23 GMT
#8
I leveled my Monk (ZergOP) this way, all self found (note: his gems was taken to put on the WD), i guess is my most fun to play char, the game is really hard, D3 Hell was like D2 Hell! Damn that illusionist molten extra health Betrayed!

I couldn't even run 1.0.4 Inferno with it, but gonna try one of these days.
=D
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
October 31 2012 16:56 GMT
#9
I only play this game self-found (the AH is just plain boring to use)

After my SC monk hit Inferno (my only SC char) I started playing HC exclusively because I saw no point in SC. My first HC Char (a monk too) got to Level 57 (Act II Hell) and died to some waller/arcane enchanted/xxx elite
This was before 1.04 (before 1.03 even I think, when craftin was still expensive) and self-found as well (playing only solo), great fun.

Now I try to get all my HC chars (1 from each class) to level 60 step by step, I still play self-found only but I switch items between my chars so I can keep as many good items as possible

My Monk is Level 56 now, Act II Hell again and just found a Justice Lantern with Dex/Vita :D But I won't use it yet because I feel I might die soon.

anyway, since I play on EU I cannot join you but I'm sure it will be fun for those who do.
HC and self-found make for the best playing experience in this game by far !

GL
Callynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands917 Posts
November 02 2012 11:09 GMT
#10
Playing self-found with a friend on MP10 (softcore).

I'm a barb he's a wizard, we're both level 31 now in act 3 normal. The drops are absolutely amazing on mp10. Currently I'm using a 59,6 dps onehanded axe with a shield and he is using a 56,5 dps wand with orb.I deal 490 dmg and he does 780. So far he died five times, I never died.

I strongly recommend this type of play to anyone rerolling or making a new (softcore) character. For hardcore I recommend MP8 if you are wiz, dh or wd. On normal and nightmare MP10 is perfectly doable without AH is what I know from experience, I don't know about Hell and above yet. I imagine I will probably go for the AH once I hit Inferno, though.
Comparing BW with SCII is like comparing a beautiful three-master sailing ship with a modern battlecruiser. Both are beautiful in their own way, both perform the same task, but they are worlds apart in how they are built and how they are steered.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
November 02 2012 17:04 GMT
#11
for hc i recommend mp0
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
November 03 2012 18:04 GMT
#12
I've played this style on hardcore since the start, and I finally hit L60 today. (Hell A3, only Azmodan not killed.)

I don't get to play very much as I'm currently serving in the army, but I'm progressing slowly. I can currently tank pretty much anything Hell can throw at me, but my dps is horrible. Trying to farm for upgrades with valor stacks until I move to A4.

Link: HC Demon Hunter (Note: This is not always up to date due to Bnet issues with updating the profile.)
Gortakom
Profile Joined August 2011
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 20:35:56
November 14 2012 04:23 GMT
#13
Will be streaming my HC self-found start tomorrow around 12:00 PM EST @ http://www.twitch.tv/Gortakom

Not only will it be self-found but it'll be my first WD beyond level 5 (hopefully)

Feel free to come hangout and probably watch me die


Edit: Currently lvl 15, just killed the Butcher
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
November 16 2012 07:10 GMT
#14
Hi all,

Will be joining the self found movement in 2-3 weeks (as i just lost my DH with all of my money invested, I really need a break from this game).
I m going to start a Monk on the Euro server and will try to play in a civilized way

Anybody up for it?
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Ticcie
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands43 Posts
November 16 2012 08:23 GMT
#15
Great initiative!

I have recently started a new character on MP10, not using things in my stash, AH, vendors, or crafting... so paying the iron price for everything, essentially. It makes the game so much more challenging. And a real eye opener concerning how long you have to make do with white items
More lurking more better
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
November 16 2012 15:48 GMT
#16
I always play this way

Then again I'm pretty old school.

It's definitely the most rewarding way to play.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 16 2012 16:18 GMT
#17
Hah, I've just started my first HC character on EU today, don't have any high level characters and/or gold-items. This is a blast so far. Had a large grin when I saw this thread as I just hit level 10. HC is such a fresh challenge after speed farming a3 mp0 for the past month or so.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
November 16 2012 16:24 GMT
#18
Glad to see a lot of people enjoying this!
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
November 16 2012 17:28 GMT
#19
It's only fun until you die. And then you'll keep coming back heh
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 17:34:48
November 16 2012 17:34 GMT
#20
i have a lvl12(?) barb i think. gonna play it a little. probably will die in act 2 and never touch it again. :D
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
November 16 2012 18:31 GMT
#21
If anyone wants to play with me, I got a 53 barb and a 31 DH on US. Gonna probably try to get my barb to inferno over this weekend.
arshock
Profile Joined December 2011
Lithuania33 Posts
November 18 2012 14:32 GMT
#22
I would also like to participate in hardcore self found challange, i am from europe, but i will come to Americas server, since there are more hc players and people like pokebunny =]
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
November 19 2012 19:44 GMT
#23
I was able to get to inferno this weekend on my barb. Act 1 inferno should be a breeze and I'll probably farm there for a bit to gear up for the rest of the acts. It was pretty slow in act 3 hell because I only had a 200 dps weapon. I hit 60 and I farmed keeps 1-3 until I got a 350 dps axe (was afraid I didn't have enough damage to kill Ghom). Later parts of act 3 (crater and beyond) and act 4 hell seem to have much higher drop rate of higher ilvl items. You really only need to get lucky once and get a 500+ dps weapon to be able to breeze through hell.
jESUIT
Profile Joined October 2012
United States151 Posts
November 30 2012 15:27 GMT
#24
I believe I will soon be putting up my char's for sale on SC and moving to the HC self found challenge w/ you good peoples, since of course I love arc and poke :D
200k dps CM/WW Wiz https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323 // GM Protoss
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
November 30 2012 17:08 GMT
#25
Did this on day one before all the nerfs, ended up getting 1 shotted off screen towards the end of act 2 inferno
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 18:38:28
November 30 2012 18:38 GMT
#26
I'd love to try this, but how do I get on US servers from EU? Proxy?
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
November 30 2012 19:09 GMT
#27
can't you just change regions in options? o.O
Gortakom
Profile Joined August 2011
United States17 Posts
November 30 2012 20:11 GMT
#28
lvl 38 WD currently in A2 nightmare. Doing pretty well so far but constantly nervous.
Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
November 30 2012 21:06 GMT
#29
I've always played without ANY usage from the AH for hardcore. My best was a LV60 +1 barbarian lost to recklessness. Once you hit level 60 and start getting that nephalem bonuses, it's a little crazy that your DPS jumps 4-fold because suddenly you start finding 700-1k DPS weapons over your 300-400 DPS ones.

My DH is LV57, beat MP5 normal difficulty, MP4 nightmare, and trudging through MP2 hell.
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
December 15 2012 20:34 GMT
#30
Cleared Hell today on my DH, as I got impatient to wait for upgrades. Kind of hilarious to clear it with 3k dps, but I was nowhere near dying due to my defensive stats... whatever works I guess!
HC Demon Hunter
Ikidomari
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia485 Posts
December 19 2012 04:17 GMT
#31
this seems so awesome, i wish i didn't find it so late after it started D:
Just break the rules, and you see the truth.
omisa
Profile Joined January 2011
United States494 Posts
December 19 2012 05:21 GMT
#32
Havent played HC since my friend died in hell months ago on his 53 wiz, but i jumped back on a lvl 9 barb and since got him safely through normal.

I must say, so far playing HC again has been quite invigorating. It has really made playing diablo fun again =o
\m/
Jiiks
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland487 Posts
December 21 2012 13:40 GMT
#33
Started playing this with a friend after i hit 100 paragon, so far lvl57 and my friend died twice with a lvl54 barb ^_^
Leveling back up to 50+ is so boring tho =/
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
December 22 2012 11:06 GMT
#34
Friend of mine started doing this a week ago, he is at his 4th try now (2 monks, 1 wiz, now wiz again).
His Monk was plvl5 in act3 Inferno. He and his friend got killed by nasty firechain molten phasebeasts
other died while lvling up, wiz died at hell act3 (lv60) helping his friend reach 60. :D
Maybe gonna start one too
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BravoScripT.DK
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark230 Posts
January 04 2013 19:40 GMT
#35
Hello my name is Bravoscript#1956 Europe.
I am an experienced player in Diablo 3 Hardcore.
I now want to play diablo 3 in the correct method, that is hardcore self found items only.
I have had 3 previcesly level 60 hardcore characters, but with the use of AH.

What i am asking for is people, who wanna play the self found item method on the Europe server.
We will make farm parties, taking down thoose bosses, and slowly progress against diablo and a higher MP.
I am currently a lvl 58 Wizard (female .

If you are unfamilar with the self found method, you can check this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378911

People who are interested are very welcome to add me as friend in battlenet.
Bravoscript#1956 Europe.
Zerg all the wayz
fzeroonline
Profile Joined December 2012
89 Posts
January 04 2013 23:35 GMT
#36
Do any of you feel like higher MP levels make a big difference with regards to loot drops pre-inferno? It feels like I'm just wasting my time playing normal in MP10 since the monsters take longer to kill and it's obviously a lot more risky. Most of the items I'm currently using I've either got from the vendor or crafted, the vast majority of my drops I just sold or salvaged.

BravoScripT.DK
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark230 Posts
January 05 2013 14:17 GMT
#37
You should just go with MP0 or MP1, later on when you are 5-10 lvls infront, the mobs doesnt give you any experience, since you are to high lvl. Just play it safe with MP0 and you will slowly become lvl 60 when you reach hell act 4-+
Zerg all the wayz
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