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BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
November 27 2012 16:29 GMT
#401
My whole party almost got wiped out by invisible mobs in act 1 fields, my friend lost his 49 paragon demon hunter while the rest of the party escaped into a cave :-[
Greed is good
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 00:03:55
November 27 2012 21:03 GMT
#402
bawww, i blew all my money (only like 300k lol) to buy gear for ghom and it was stupidly easy - don't think i needed to buy any of it. should've tested on softcore first :<

oh well, found a 900k gem plan so hopefully i can sell that and get some real (albeit still mediocre) upgrades

edit: ok nvm i got greedy and died to some really dumb affix phasebeasts LOL
FakeDouble
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia676 Posts
November 28 2012 14:05 GMT
#403
On November 28 2012 01:17 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
Lost my 51 HC Barb last night in Act4 NM to a Keywarden... Those darn things hit harder than act-end bosses do -_-

The worst part is sometimes you can't even run from them, This one was jailer/mortar/extra fast or something (you don't get to see the suffixes on these guys)

Ah well. Time to try a monk!


Nekarat, or whatever his name is, is the scariest thing in the whole game now. He has jailer, knockback (not sure ?), rushes at you and does something like the barb's earthquake which melts your face unbelievably fast. You MUST take a cc breaker to stand a chance.

Or just avoid him altogether
Formerly known as carbonaceous
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
November 28 2012 14:57 GMT
#404
On November 28 2012 23:05 FakeDouble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 01:17 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
Lost my 51 HC Barb last night in Act4 NM to a Keywarden... Those darn things hit harder than act-end bosses do -_-

The worst part is sometimes you can't even run from them, This one was jailer/mortar/extra fast or something (you don't get to see the suffixes on these guys)

Ah well. Time to try a monk!


Nekarat, or whatever his name is, is the scariest thing in the whole game now. He has jailer, knockback (not sure ?), rushes at you and does something like the barb's earthquake which melts your face unbelievably fast. You MUST take a cc breaker to stand a chance.

Or just avoid him altogether


+ He prevents healing by 75% or something.
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
November 28 2012 22:44 GMT
#405
On November 28 2012 23:05 FakeDouble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 01:17 AimlessAmoeba wrote:
Lost my 51 HC Barb last night in Act4 NM to a Keywarden... Those darn things hit harder than act-end bosses do -_-

The worst part is sometimes you can't even run from them, This one was jailer/mortar/extra fast or something (you don't get to see the suffixes on these guys)

Ah well. Time to try a monk!


Nekarat, or whatever his name is, is the scariest thing in the whole game now. He has jailer, knockback (not sure ?), rushes at you and does something like the barb's earthquake which melts your face unbelievably fast. You MUST take a cc breaker to stand a chance.

Or just avoid him altogether


That's the one. What a bastard. I went and got my revenge with my SC DH immediately after.

What a scary douche!
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 22:47:59
November 28 2012 22:46 GMT
#406
I saw this on the Hardcore AH (US)...

Is that cold damage bonus simply because of running MP10?
[image loading]
Lega-
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada141 Posts
December 04 2012 17:51 GMT
#407
What cold damage?
syth99
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States59 Posts
December 04 2012 21:21 GMT
#408
On November 29 2012 07:46 Mysticesper wrote:
I saw this on the Hardcore AH (US)...

Is that cold damage bonus simply because of running MP10?
[image loading]

That item along with the horadric hamburger can roll 600+dps however can only be found in inferno pony level. The Mp lvl does not matter for its stats.
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
December 11 2012 10:45 GMT
#409
Lost my 60/6 DH about a month ago when the patch hit, dicking around with a Sentry+Custom Engineering spec. I got a waller/arcane pack in the Act 1 prison map, and got walled in to one of those little cells with a couple arcane beams, and an empty discipline bar. After that I had to let the game sit for a good two weeks, but now after a silly death in Act 3 Normal, I've got my new 60 and I'm finally caught up to my old char gear-wise.

I had died before I really got a chance to try out Monster Power, and damn MP0 is nothing like the old Inferno. Act 2 went from being terrifying half the time to face-tanking the whole thing, and Act 3 went from being off limits completely to my normal farming area. I guess the real question will be when I feel safe to step it up to MP1.

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/eluv-1891/Eluv/28295792

That's my new char, missing some upgraded gloves while the servers reset. I think I'm at the point where I should be trying to spend a couple million on my next piece, but any advice on which I should put the gold into would be appreciated - keeping in mind I have essentially 0 right now, so I'm not exactly going to be sporting a 3pc Nats+Mempo any time soon.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 14:46:13
December 11 2012 14:46 GMT
#410
On December 11 2012 19:45 eluv wrote:
Lost my 60/6 DH about a month ago when the patch hit, dicking around with a Sentry+Custom Engineering spec. I got a waller/arcane pack in the Act 1 prison map, and got walled in to one of those little cells with a couple arcane beams, and an empty discipline bar. After that I had to let the game sit for a good two weeks, but now after a silly death in Act 3 Normal, I've got my new 60 and I'm finally caught up to my old char gear-wise.

I had died before I really got a chance to try out Monster Power, and damn MP0 is nothing like the old Inferno. Act 2 went from being terrifying half the time to face-tanking the whole thing, and Act 3 went from being off limits completely to my normal farming area. I guess the real question will be when I feel safe to step it up to MP1.

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/eluv-1891/Eluv/28295792

That's my new char, missing some upgraded gloves while the servers reset. I think I'm at the point where I should be trying to spend a couple million on my next piece, but any advice on which I should put the gold into would be appreciated - keeping in mind I have essentially 0 right now, so I'm not exactly going to be sporting a 3pc Nats+Mempo any time soon.


Basically the exact same thing that happened to me, except i got lucky, dropped some blackthorne legs with +215 Vit (yes that exists), and now im rolling at 90 K dps no sharpshooter. Mp1 eZ pZ.

But man DH still gives you some fuckin adrenalin shots, Im playing my Barb now with 2h to get the same feelin' ^^
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
December 12 2012 04:49 GMT
#411
Alright, I think I am going to take the plunge into HC. Leveling my SC wiz simply is not that much fun; the most viable lvling build for wiz is not viable in group play. But I see that group play is encouraged for a number of reasons in HC, and that's appealing. I've leveled a SC monk to 60 and my wiz to para 55, so I'm definitely ready for a different class; maybe Barb is a good starting place? Or should I go DH and just get used to dieing? =D
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 06:53:22
December 12 2012 06:01 GMT
#412
Well, I've lost 8 Demon hunters on HC so far, one of them being 60, the others anywhere from 4(!) to 57, and I have to say things have improved significantly with the latest patch. Now that Perfectionist gives you a way to scale your defensive stats, it's significantly easier to get to a reasonable level of EHP.

That said, I still think any other class is going to have an easier time at least getting you to 60. Levelling a barb with a shield and some defensive skills basically means you'll never be threatened till A4 hell at least. The other three all fall somewhere in between, but whatever you choose, I hope you end up converting to the HC side.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
DerSchober
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria66 Posts
December 12 2012 10:03 GMT
#413
i had a 60 monk, have a 60 bar, 54 wd and 49 dh

barb is by FAR the safest class, dh by far the most dangerous
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 13 2012 02:30 GMT
#414
On December 12 2012 19:03 DerSchober wrote:
i had a 60 monk, have a 60 bar, 54 wd and 49 dh

barb is by FAR the safest class, dh by far the most dangerous

I think wd is probably the safest at 60 tbh... especially when you have bad gear.
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DerSchober
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria66 Posts
December 13 2012 10:01 GMT
#415
dunno, depends on how you play it i guess
im using rend and revenge, my life regen is so insane that i dont even remember the last time i had to use a health pot
plus wrath of the berserker for stuff like frozen, jailer,

but i gotta admit that getting my wd to 54 was pretty easy so far
Stratos.FEAR
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada706 Posts
December 13 2012 10:05 GMT
#416
On December 13 2012 11:30 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 19:03 DerSchober wrote:
i had a 60 monk, have a 60 bar, 54 wd and 49 dh

barb is by FAR the safest class, dh by far the most dangerous

I think wd is probably the safest at 60 tbh... especially when you have bad gear.


spirit vessel has saved my ass more times than i would like to remember especially when i was REALLY undergeared (now i am just slightly undergeared)
lordvnm
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany45 Posts
December 13 2012 11:57 GMT
#417
Sorc died at 54.
Barb died at 52.
Monk died at 54.
I thought "fuck it", but somehow I still want a level 60 HC-char. Let's see if it is my WD.
"Rock is op. Paper is fine." - Scissors
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
December 13 2012 12:58 GMT
#418
On December 13 2012 20:57 lordvnm wrote:
Sorc died at 54.
Barb died at 52.
Monk died at 54.
I thought "fuck it", but somehow I still want a level 60 HC-char. Let's see if it is my WD.


Stay focused mate. You ll see how it feels when you loose a high level character :D I just lost my Dh Paragon 19, and it stings !!
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 15:01:57
December 14 2012 15:00 GMT
#419
nooo D:
4th wizard dead. At least I've gone up 29/39/56/58. sigh
Also, I hate Fast+Molten+Vortex.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 19 2012 17:17 GMT
#420
On December 13 2012 21:58 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 20:57 lordvnm wrote:
Sorc died at 54.
Barb died at 52.
Monk died at 54.
I thought "fuck it", but somehow I still want a level 60 HC-char. Let's see if it is my WD.


Stay focused mate. You ll see how it feels when you loose a high level character :D I just lost my Dh Paragon 19, and it stings !!


How'd it happen?

I lost my HC barb at 59 with 1.5 bars to go. Feared into arcane beams when HP was 40%..

I ragequitted back to my SC barb!
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