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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
July 26 2012 03:30 GMT
#1841
On July 26 2012 11:43 wooozy wrote:
it isn't a build designed for lesser geared monks. with enough DPS, monks can easily drop elite packs within a 4s serenity with a MoC+overawe/blind combo. having sub 600 resists is irrelevant at that point

edit: especially because of that patch that made inferno damage a joke


What kind of DPS are we talking?
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
July 26 2012 03:30 GMT
#1842
On July 26 2012 11:43 wooozy wrote:
it isn't a build designed for lesser geared monks. with enough DPS, monks can easily drop elite packs within a 4s serenity with a MoC+overawe/blind combo. having sub 600 resists is irrelevant at that point

edit: especially because of that patch that made inferno damage a joke

I just don't see the point......what passive skill is so amazing that you can readily sacrifice 300 easy resists for it? It's not like armor has adjustable resistances either...you're stuck without using OWE, you can't just swap stuff around, either you get gear for OWE or you don't...and i just don't see what skill could possibly be amazing enough to justify trashing 300+ cheap resists.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 00:04:52
July 26 2012 05:33 GMT
#1843
On July 26 2012 12:30 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 11:43 wooozy wrote:
it isn't a build designed for lesser geared monks. with enough DPS, monks can easily drop elite packs within a 4s serenity with a MoC+overawe/blind combo. having sub 600 resists is irrelevant at that point

edit: especially because of that patch that made inferno damage a joke


What kind of DPS are we talking?


~45k unbuffed is enough for pretty much any elite in a3 (only need like ~25k for a2) and is easily attainable without spending that much

On July 26 2012 12:30 YODA_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 11:43 wooozy wrote:
it isn't a build designed for lesser geared monks. with enough DPS, monks can easily drop elite packs within a 4s serenity with a MoC+overawe/blind combo. having sub 600 resists is irrelevant at that point

edit: especially because of that patch that made inferno damage a joke

I just don't see the point......what passive skill is so amazing that you can readily sacrifice 300 easy resists for it? It's not like armor has adjustable resistances either...you're stuck without using OWE, you can't just swap stuff around, either you get gear for OWE or you don't...and i just don't see what skill could possibly be amazing enough to justify trashing 300+ cheap resists.


i assume resolve seize/resolve are the two given passives? if running a WW barb+monk combo (or i guess anyone else), guiding light is insanely good. for solo i've seen plenty of people run guardian's path. at one point i was running chant of resonance because i gave up my spirit regen wep for more DPS and starting elites with full spirit was crucial. point is, OWE isn't that important if you can kill quickly enough and i would gladly take 15% dodge over 200-300 resist given the circumstance

edit: hell, i was using the 10% ms passive at some point to go from elite to elite quicker just 'cause OWE was useless to me
Reivax
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden214 Posts
July 29 2012 23:18 GMT
#1844
I'm currently playing a really poorly geared monk, 2-hander giving me ~20k DPS, about 300 resist all, 450 LoH, 31k life and around 4k armor, using the following spec:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#WkXgYj!dXZ!ZYbYcc

I tried a cookie cutter spec, this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aXYigk!ZXU!abccYa which made me better at killing mobs, but worse at boss packs, and it lowered my life expectancy significantly. Stacking resolve + concussion seems pretty vital for my current gear, I can breeze through Act1 easily (managed the the kill butcher quickly achievement) but I couldn't kill any boss pack in Act 2 when I had 100 resists less.

My question is, what is vital to make the cookie cutter spec tick? Resists + LoH? Want to try something more powerful, but can't do it with my current gear.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
July 29 2012 23:59 GMT
#1845
On July 30 2012 08:18 Reivax wrote:
I'm currently playing a really poorly geared monk, 2-hander giving me ~20k DPS, about 300 resist all, 450 LoH, 31k life and around 4k armor, using the following spec:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#WkXgYj!dXZ!ZYbYcc

I tried a cookie cutter spec, this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aXYigk!ZXU!abccYa which made me better at killing mobs, but worse at boss packs, and it lowered my life expectancy significantly. Stacking resolve + concussion seems pretty vital for my current gear, I can breeze through Act1 easily (managed the the kill butcher quickly achievement) but I couldn't kill any boss pack in Act 2 when I had 100 resists less.

My question is, what is vital to make the cookie cutter spec tick? Resists + LoH? Want to try something more powerful, but can't do it with my current gear.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aVXghi!UXZ!aYbYac
This is more cookie cutter, just replace the exploading palm for the blind + dmg or an ally.

What makes the build tick is having enough armor and resist to make the amount of life you regain with LoH cover what damage you take. I would recoment switching the 2-hander for a 1-hander and a shield or 2 1-handers. get 1k LoH, 600 AR, 600 Armor and >1.6 Attacks per second and you can tank belial with that build.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 00:11:37
July 30 2012 00:08 GMT
#1846
use blade or fire storm instead of cyclones if you're not stacking crit chance

edit: you can also use guardian's path over resolve if you're using dodge aura (which you should be until you have enough sustain for the act you're farming)
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 01:06:43
July 30 2012 01:06 GMT
#1847
On July 30 2012 09:08 wooozy wrote:
use blade or fire storm instead of cyclones if you're not stacking crit chance

edit: you can also use guardian's path over resolve if you're using dodge aura (which you should be until you have enough sustain for the act you're farming)


I would only take guardians path if your running backlash on MoE. 25% dmg reduction off the top is helpful.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
July 30 2012 09:26 GMT
#1848
Hey guys,

since I have some decent Vit / Dex / Crit / Crit Jewelry, I was wondering how much I'd have to invest to get a monk to be stable in Act III.

Are there any guides out there, like the 5kk Demon Hunter?
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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 23:34:55
July 30 2012 13:51 GMT
#1849
Soloed the game on inferno with about 18-20 million gold gear now. I picked up 3.8 million gold in total, maybe was pure grinding for less then 12h. I got rather depressed when I thought I would need to do insane amount of grinding in order to complete the game. Just thought I would make a post saying that if you have balanced gear and decent mechanics you can get away with little grind.

My char had with buffs, 71% armor reduction, 70% elemental reduction, 35-53% dodge, 20.5k dps and 38k hp. In addition could I maintain about 4k health lose/sec with transcendence, LoH of 1.5k and attack speed of 2.07. Used Blind, serenity and heavens wrath (I think it is called that, the healing that increase your dps by 15% x)) as cooldowns.

Largest difference on 3-4th act was that I needed to disengage from combat for 4-5 secs every 15 sec in order to buy time for cooldowns to recharge. You of course also need to loop your cooldowns so that you do not burn them all at once. If you do this and have about the same gear as I you should be fine. I think you could get away with slightly worse gear also, sinced I finished Diablo on first attempt.

Now I think I am done with this game, good luck with inferno
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
jetburger
Profile Joined December 2011
United States87 Posts
August 03 2012 01:33 GMT
#1850
Question: When you use Blinding Flash on elites, they suffer a chance to miss. If they miss, does that count as you dodging an attack? I.e. will it work with MofEvasion - Backlash? Thanks.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
August 03 2012 01:59 GMT
#1851
On August 03 2012 10:33 jetburger wrote:
Question: When you use Blinding Flash on elites, they suffer a chance to miss. If they miss, does that count as you dodging an attack? I.e. will it work with MofEvasion - Backlash? Thanks.


I do believe so, normally with backlash blinding light is inefficient, it makes white mobs not attack you, but against elites the 60% miss change couples with 64% evade chance I've been getting with Backlash and gaurdian makes for multiple procs of backlah per socond.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
jetburger
Profile Joined December 2011
United States87 Posts
August 03 2012 02:05 GMT
#1852
On August 03 2012 10:59 Jisall wrote:
...normally with backlash blinding light is inefficient, it makes white mobs not attack you...


I never thought about that. Thank you.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 03 2012 06:50 GMT
#1853
Hey guys, I'm switching to a monk and it's almost level 60 and I'm getting prepared to buy my new gear, but I have no idea what is a fair price for monk weapons.

How much dps and what stats should I be looking for my 1h weapons? I have around 10m to spend, so what do you think is a good amount to spend on my weapons? Thanks in advance!
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 07:05:33
August 03 2012 07:05 GMT
#1854
On August 03 2012 15:50 KimJongChill wrote:
Hey guys, I'm switching to a monk and it's almost level 60 and I'm getting prepared to buy my new gear, but I have no idea what is a fair price for monk weapons.

How much dps and what stats should I be looking for my 1h weapons? I have around 10m to spend, so what do you think is a good amount to spend on my weapons? Thanks in advance!


For mainhand use something slower, for offhand a fast monkweapon (or 2 1.3~ axes for example)

Basicly you want high dps, LoH, critdamage, dex, socket

Everything else is not as important.

if you can get something around 900 dps with LoH and a socket, you are set for a while.

edit: better is allways better, but this is based on your budget.
KCCO!
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 03 2012 07:09 GMT
#1855
On August 03 2012 16:05 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 15:50 KimJongChill wrote:
Hey guys, I'm switching to a monk and it's almost level 60 and I'm getting prepared to buy my new gear, but I have no idea what is a fair price for monk weapons.

How much dps and what stats should I be looking for my 1h weapons? I have around 10m to spend, so what do you think is a good amount to spend on my weapons? Thanks in advance!


For mainhand use something slower, for offhand a fast monkweapon (or 2 1.3~ axes for example)

Basicly you want high dps, LoH, critdamage, dex, socket

Everything else is not as important.

if you can get something around 900 dps with LoH and a socket, you are set for a while.

edit: better is allways better, but this is based on your budget.


thanks man. how much is a fair price to pay for something in that neighborhood of 800-900 dps with socket, etc?
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
August 03 2012 07:15 GMT
#1856
That really changes at the same rate i go trough tshirts :/ Someone else can probably give you an estimate, Im one of the few lucky people who found 2 high dps weapons and didnt have to spend alot of gold buying them
KCCO!
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 03 2012 07:22 GMT
#1857
^ thanks man, Im just wondering b.c it looks like a lot of stuff doesnt sell so im worried that its all a rip off heh.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
August 03 2012 07:33 GMT
#1858
Usually you can get a good deal earlier in the day. The later it gets the more expensive stuff gets because more people are logged in bidding on it.

Dont make the mistake of just bidding on whatever has the highest DPS. Critdamage for example is very important, specially as a loose stat on a weapon with also a socket (giving you up to a possible 200% critdamage on a perfect roll).

A high dps weapon with just int and something like lifesteal% (not the same as LoH) is usually not worth it.

For example I have (from the top of my head not 100% accurate):
1h spear 1.2 speed, 965 dps, socket with 80%crit, 50%crit, 150LoH (and 2 random stats that arent important)
1h monkweapon 1.4 speed, 1000dps, socket with 70% crit, 90 dex and some random stats (high int ^_^)

Now I found thos myself, if I can get enough Im going to replace my offhand even tho it has more DPS. The stats however are significantly worse.
KCCO!
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
August 03 2012 07:59 GMT
#1859
On August 03 2012 15:50 KimJongChill wrote:
Hey guys, I'm switching to a monk and it's almost level 60 and I'm getting prepared to buy my new gear, but I have no idea what is a fair price for monk weapons.

How much dps and what stats should I be looking for my 1h weapons? I have around 10m to spend, so what do you think is a good amount to spend on my weapons? Thanks in advance!


I recommend checking out Newti (http://www.twitch.tv/newtiunplugged); he's done a few 'pimp my monk' on stream. His 15M monk looked like this: http://i.imgur.com/ft7au.jpg - he was able to do A3 with this setup.

With that budget, I would look at 1h+shield, as a 2nd weapon is much more expensive than a decent shield. The crit on shield and extra survivability helps loads. As mentioned before, you are looking for dex, crit dmg, socket and life on hit on weap. But all of them together will be like 100M, looking at the budget, i think you need to choose either LoH, or a weapon with socket..
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 03 2012 08:32 GMT
#1860
On Sweeping Wind, did anyone run the math on how much crit chance is needed before Cyclone beats out Blade Storm?

Also, does Cyclone give better LoH effectiveness?
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