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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 08:38:25
August 03 2012 08:33 GMT
#1861
On August 03 2012 17:32 Novalisk wrote:
On Sweeping Wind, did anyone run the math on how much crit chance is needed before Cyclone beats out Blade Storm?

Also, does Cyclone give better LoH effectiveness?


None of the SW runes or SW itself provide any LoH.

As for the cyclone question, I don't think anyone has done the math yet, it's just all been anecdotal evidence. So here's my anecdotal advice: around 25% crit go for Cyclone.

Edit: Might as well add the LoH spreadsheet, courtesy of ProzaicMuze:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0ArKUly7-jsZzdGhjaG1ERDMtS2M0cHhkTjB5b0hZTkE&single=true&gid=0&output=html
LaiShin
Profile Joined November 2005
Australia978 Posts
August 03 2012 09:05 GMT
#1862
My personal benchmark is 30% lol
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
August 03 2012 09:17 GMT
#1863
My buddy stopped whining about how much more damage I did compared to him right around the time he hit 30% himself
KCCO!
Kuznagi
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada58 Posts
August 03 2012 13:53 GMT
#1864
Have been gaering my monk and I think I can finally do Act3 though I still really struggle with champ packs that have: Molten, Desecrate, Arcane.I definitely try to avoid it but if I get feared into it or so many happen and I get trapped I don't know how I can kill some mobs. I have to hit serentiy blow my cooldowns and try again. Is there a better approach? Here are my stats maybe it is something I can work on stats wise...

DPS 43323 with Blazing Wrath
All Resist 798
Armor: 4765
LOH: 1328
HP: 30273

Build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aiXgYk!UXZ!acbYca
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
August 03 2012 13:59 GMT
#1865
Take your time is what I can advice you. You can kite longer then you might expect, specially with nice LoH (that u have). Dont try to take em down in 1 go but take it slow.
KCCO!
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
August 03 2012 15:44 GMT
#1866
On August 03 2012 22:53 Kuznagi wrote:
Have been gaering my monk and I think I can finally do Act3 though I still really struggle with champ packs that have: Molten, Desecrate, Arcane.I definitely try to avoid it but if I get feared into it or so many happen and I get trapped I don't know how I can kill some mobs. I have to hit serentiy blow my cooldowns and try again. Is there a better approach? Here are my stats maybe it is something I can work on stats wise...

DPS 43323 with Blazing Wrath
All Resist 798
Armor: 4765
LOH: 1328
HP: 30273

Build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aiXgYk!UXZ!acbYca


Get more HPs. If you increase your buffer, you wont go low crazy fast and you don't have to blow your cooldowns in a panic. I think above 40-45k HPs things get a lot more comfortable. Looking at the armor value, i guess you are dual wielding? A shield will help loads as well, if you get one with high crit the dps hit is not that big actually...
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 03 2012 18:04 GMT
#1867
On August 03 2012 16:59 Blix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 15:50 KimJongChill wrote:
Hey guys, I'm switching to a monk and it's almost level 60 and I'm getting prepared to buy my new gear, but I have no idea what is a fair price for monk weapons.

How much dps and what stats should I be looking for my 1h weapons? I have around 10m to spend, so what do you think is a good amount to spend on my weapons? Thanks in advance!


I recommend checking out Newti (http://www.twitch.tv/newtiunplugged); he's done a few 'pimp my monk' on stream. His 15M monk looked like this: http://i.imgur.com/ft7au.jpg - he was able to do A3 with this setup.

With that budget, I would look at 1h+shield, as a 2nd weapon is much more expensive than a decent shield. The crit on shield and extra survivability helps loads. As mentioned before, you are looking for dex, crit dmg, socket and life on hit on weap. But all of them together will be like 100M, looking at the budget, i think you need to choose either LoH, or a weapon with socket..


Thanks a lot man, I actually managed to gear myself with mostly comparable items for 6m (only exceptions really are my 1h is 743 with 80 less dex; amulet doesn't have the crit damage).
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 03 2012 18:47 GMT
#1868
How much resist do you need for Act 3? I have 580 and a Fallen Overseer pack roflstomped me.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
August 04 2012 01:00 GMT
#1869
On August 04 2012 03:47 Jerubaal wrote:
How much resist do you need for Act 3? I have 580 and a Fallen Overseer pack roflstomped me.


Somewhere around 650-750. Course you need armor and dodge to. With buffs I had about 70/70/50 in resistance, armor and dodge when I finished inferno.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 04 2012 14:57 GMT
#1870
I'm finding it really hard to get armor balanced with resists, getting resists is just so damn easy in comparison.
/commercial
thurst0n
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States611 Posts
August 04 2012 22:33 GMT
#1871
Can someone help me understand why everyone uses One with Everything, seems like everyone is getting resall anyway, so why do you need to use one with everything? Pacifism or Guardian's path seem possibly better, or maybe even 6th sense depending on your gear.

Im a noob i just dont get it..
P.S. I'm nub. If you'd like you can follow me @xthurst but its not worth it ill be honest
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
August 04 2012 23:52 GMT
#1872
because OWE allows you to stack double res

for example a monk can stack cold res+all res on every piece of gear (let's say +50 cold/+50 AR on each piece for simplicity sake). that's +100 all res on each piece
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 06 2012 13:17 GMT
#1873
What are your guys thoughts on having two mantras?

This is my current build: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aXQkig!ZXU!abcaZY

I only lose out on a bit of survivability for not taking Blinding Flash, but I get to be more versatile instead. If I see I can tank it, I keep MoC up, and if the health bar is dropping, I spam MoH. Most of the time I'll have MoC at the start, MoH when I get everyone's attention, and MoC when I've killed enough to be able to tank.
/commercial
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
August 06 2012 13:35 GMT
#1874
On August 06 2012 22:17 Novalisk wrote:
What are your guys thoughts on having two mantras?

This is my current build: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aXQkig!ZXU!abcaZY

I only lose out on a bit of survivability for not taking Blinding Flash, but I get to be more versatile instead. If I see I can tank it, I keep MoC up, and if the health bar is dropping, I spam MoH. Most of the time I'll have MoC at the start, MoH when I get everyone's attention, and MoC when I've killed enough to be able to tank.


This setup costs so much dmg - not having overawe up costs between 24-48%. Blinding flash is more than a bit of survivability - it is all about the dmg boost. First, the uptime of the dmg-boost is much higher than the 3 out of 15s, because you can proc it at the correct time. Second, as mentioned previously in the thread, sweeping winds takes a snapshot at the moment it is activated. Thus, proc blind followed by SW, results in 30% boost of SW dmg as long as it is up. Ironically, by losing all this dps, the fight is prolonged and the need for survivability increases... Also, i think that the benefit from MoH is pretty small, regarding survivability - i'd rather use MoE-hard target instead, or even deadly-reach-keen-eye (2 main attacks, or instead of thunderclap and blind instead of 2nd mantra)
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 14:05:16
August 06 2012 13:49 GMT
#1875
Why is sweeping wind used over wave of light for AOE damage? The bell is pretty cool and damage seems to be higher.

Is exploding palm good beyond the 'simultaneous loot' trick?

I'm HC btw.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 06 2012 14:47 GMT
#1876
On August 06 2012 22:49 calgar wrote:
Why is sweeping wind used over wave of light for AOE damage? The bell is pretty cool and damage seems to be higher.

Is exploding palm good beyond the 'simultaneous loot' trick?

I'm HC btw.


Mostly because Wave of Light costs spirit, which could instead be used to keep mantra of conviction up for more damage.
/commercial
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
August 06 2012 15:13 GMT
#1877
Hah, guess I was playing my monk terribly wrong.

Just swapped my 900dps 220dex socketed axe with 750 dps 850 LoH 60 crit damage socketed fist weapon, and I am able to wtfpwn a3 no problem now.

can anyone comment on the threshold of switching evasion mantra to overawe please. at what point do you recommend it? currently I die around 8-10 times during a reckless (just holding shift+mouse1 with FoT) full a3 run.
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BaBaUTZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany146 Posts
August 06 2012 16:07 GMT
#1878
Hi

I am playing a defensive/tanky HC Monk. I am near Inferno now, so i would like to ask, if my build is good.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#bcgihX!XUT!ZZaZab

I am especially unsure if Blind+DMG rune may be a better Choice instead of heal. So far i was under the impression that sustained +15% dmg is better than a short time buff of 30%. Also is it worth to get Lifesteal on my weapon for Sweeping Wind (since LoH doesnt work with it) or is a high LoH better than lower LoH + Lifesteal.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 16:29:20
August 06 2012 16:23 GMT
#1879
On August 07 2012 01:07 BaBaUTZ wrote:
Hi

I am playing a defensive/tanky HC Monk. I am near Inferno now, so i would like to ask, if my build is good.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#bcgihX!XUT!ZZaZab

I am especially unsure if Blind+DMG rune may be a better Choice instead of heal. So far i was under the impression that sustained +15% dmg is better than a short time buff of 30%. Also is it worth to get Lifesteal on my weapon for Sweeping Wind (since LoH doesnt work with it) or is a high LoH better than lower LoH + Lifesteal.


Hmm, since you are using each skill in its slot, I want to make sure if you know what Elective Mode is. Do you know you could use different kind of skills in different slots? If not, google elective mode first

If yes, I would suggest swapping Near Death Experience with Resolve to begin with.

Your skills are okay, though I never understood why people use tempest rush. If I had to switch anything, I would switch off Tempest Rush for Blind + DMG.

As for Lifesteal vs. LoH, LoH is much better in lower damage ranges such as yourself.

Which brings me to another question, did anyone with kickass gear in here try lifesteal weapons to see how they fare against LoH?

Edit: nvm, found a video of Kripparian that explains it:

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kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
August 06 2012 17:04 GMT
#1880
Is it viable to pick up +crit Gear, when all your +Crit-Damage comes from sockets on your weapons?

Say you have 2 Flawless Star Emeralds, giving you 310% damage crits, so 20% crit is a rough 62% increase in damage, isn't it?
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