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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
July 17 2012 07:09 GMT
#1781
Finally got to act3 Inferno , very happy

Currently have

350 LoH
30kHP
600resis
35k dps

Running the usual cookiecutter monkbuild. What areas should I improve on first to get trough inferno?
KCCO!
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
July 17 2012 07:53 GMT
#1782
You should be fine with that setup. More LoH will make it smoother though.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
July 17 2012 08:43 GMT
#1783
I think my rings need upgrades anyway so i'll try to get some LoH on them
KCCO!
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
July 17 2012 14:45 GMT
#1784
200-300 additional resist will help loads as well
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3975 Posts
July 18 2012 01:58 GMT
#1785
I'm at the Act 3 Bridge of Korsikk, stuck with the following:
33k hp
690 resist
6500 armor unbuffed
900 loh
15k damage
1700 dex

I know my damage is low (rest seems pretty ok compared to what I've seen around here), but how do I improve it? My dex isn't too low as far as I can tell, my weap is a 700dps with 200 dex with star amethyst for 300loh. Other thing that is low is critchance 13%,critdmg 90%. Should I focus on getting more crit primarily? Would switching 300loh for 70crit damage be a good idea? Items are really getting expensive lately (for people who don't play that much). Thanks!

coopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States144 Posts
July 18 2012 02:12 GMT
#1786
On July 18 2012 10:58 aseq wrote:
I'm at the Act 3 Bridge of Korsikk, stuck with the following:
33k hp
690 resist
6500 armor unbuffed
900 loh
15k damage
1700 dex

I know my damage is low (rest seems pretty ok compared to what I've seen around here), but how do I improve it? My dex isn't too low as far as I can tell, my weap is a 700dps with 200 dex with star amethyst for 300loh. Other thing that is low is critchance 13%,critdmg 90%. Should I focus on getting more crit primarily? Would switching 300loh for 70crit damage be a good idea? Items are really getting expensive lately (for people who don't play that much). Thanks!




Don't start worrying about crit dmg until you get a decent amount of crit. aim for crit on bracers, helm, rings, ammulet, shield if possible. You want about over 30% crit before you start worrying about getting crit dmg more ( from 2 weps with sockets or what not ) I think your best upgrade without seeing your gear might be your weapon as its a little low in dps. I think you should keep your life on hit for now and just work on getting some crit into your build and maybe a little more dmg on your weapon without losing too much of your other stats. It can be expensive but these are the ways to up your dmg
YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
July 18 2012 02:22 GMT
#1787
On July 18 2012 10:58 aseq wrote:
I'm at the Act 3 Bridge of Korsikk, stuck with the following:
33k hp
690 resist
6500 armor unbuffed
900 loh
15k damage
1700 dex

I know my damage is low (rest seems pretty ok compared to what I've seen around here), but how do I improve it? My dex isn't too low as far as I can tell, my weap is a 700dps with 200 dex with star amethyst for 300loh. Other thing that is low is critchance 13%,critdmg 90%. Should I focus on getting more crit primarily? Would switching 300loh for 70crit damage be a good idea? Items are really getting expensive lately (for people who don't play that much). Thanks!


Im not sure what your stat distribution is, but getting a ~4-500 LoH amulet with other decent stats is fairly inexpensive, around 2-3 mil. Then spend ~2-5 mil on 850+ dps 1 hander with 200+ dex and ~50 crit damage, and that will give you a huge dps boost. But without seeing your items, it's hard to know what actually needs upgrading.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
July 18 2012 06:37 GMT
#1788
Well I sold something for 9mil yesterday, tho I have no clue what it was. So atleast I have some pocketmoney for new rings. Whats good stats to look for on rings, besides the loh I want?
KCCO!
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 07:59:55
July 18 2012 07:54 GMT
#1789
If you're looking for reasonably priced rings, probably something like:

80~ Dex
50~ Vit
30~ AR or your specific resist (preferably your specific resist because it's cheaper)
250~ LoH

Even something like that would be a few million though.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3975 Posts
July 18 2012 14:26 GMT
#1790
On July 18 2012 11:22 YODA_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 10:58 aseq wrote:
I'm at the Act 3 Bridge of Korsikk, stuck with the following:
33k hp
690 resist
6500 armor unbuffed
900 loh
15k damage
1700 dex

I know my damage is low (rest seems pretty ok compared to what I've seen around here), but how do I improve it? My dex isn't too low as far as I can tell, my weap is a 700dps with 200 dex with star amethyst for 300loh. Other thing that is low is critchance 13%,critdmg 90%. Should I focus on getting more crit primarily? Would switching 300loh for 70crit damage be a good idea? Items are really getting expensive lately (for people who don't play that much). Thanks!


Im not sure what your stat distribution is, but getting a ~4-500 LoH amulet with other decent stats is fairly inexpensive, around 2-3 mil. Then spend ~2-5 mil on 850+ dps 1 hander with 200+ dex and ~50 crit damage, and that will give you a huge dps boost. But without seeing your items, it's hard to know what actually needs upgrading.


Thanks man! I guess that would be a good idea, although I'd need up to 8m just to do that (I seriously think the weapon might be more expensive even). I don't think i've spent that much so far (only about 5m) Back to farming then, I've only got 3m now and farming is really slow as I play too little.
Tribute
Profile Joined September 2010
United States146 Posts
July 19 2012 08:29 GMT
#1791
On July 17 2012 16:09 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Finally got to act3 Inferno , very happy

Currently have

350 LoH
30kHP
600resis
35k dps

Running the usual cookiecutter monkbuild. What areas should I improve on first to get trough inferno?


Is there actually a cookie cutter monk build? From what I've seen monks are probably one of the more flexible classes in terms of spec. I'd be interested in seeing if there's a "standard" defensive build and a "standard" offensive build.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 09:31:47
July 19 2012 09:29 GMT
#1792
On July 19 2012 17:29 Tribute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 16:09 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Finally got to act3 Inferno , very happy

Currently have

350 LoH
30kHP
600resis
35k dps

Running the usual cookiecutter monkbuild. What areas should I improve on first to get trough inferno?


Is there actually a cookie cutter monk build? From what I've seen monks are probably one of the more flexible classes in terms of spec. I'd be interested in seeing if there's a "standard" defensive build and a "standard" offensive build.


Standard offensive is FoT-thunderclap, conviction-overawe, SW-cyclone, BoH-DPS, Ally(wind is highest dps I think), and then one more, usually either serenity for mistakes, or blind with the dps buff for maximum damage. Keeping overawe up is higher damage per spirit spent than basically every other monk skill so it's not worth dumping spirit on anything else, not to mention that most skills interrupt attack animation and cost a chunk of spirit.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
July 19 2012 11:34 GMT
#1793
On July 19 2012 18:29 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 17:29 Tribute wrote:
On July 17 2012 16:09 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Finally got to act3 Inferno , very happy

Currently have

350 LoH
30kHP
600resis
35k dps

Running the usual cookiecutter monkbuild. What areas should I improve on first to get trough inferno?


Is there actually a cookie cutter monk build? From what I've seen monks are probably one of the more flexible classes in terms of spec. I'd be interested in seeing if there's a "standard" defensive build and a "standard" offensive build.


Standard offensive is FoT-thunderclap, conviction-overawe, SW-cyclone, BoH-DPS, Ally(wind is highest dps I think), and then one more, usually either serenity for mistakes, or blind with the dps buff for maximum damage. Keeping overawe up is higher damage per spirit spent than basically every other monk skill so it's not worth dumping spirit on anything else, not to mention that most skills interrupt attack animation and cost a chunk of spirit.


Acutally I use both blind and serenity without the ally. Blind imo is a required skill for cyclonebuilds, serenity because its the law You want to do insane damage in those 4 seconds of immortality. The ally doenst fit in there that good. But yeh rest of the build is the same
KCCO!
ElvisWayCool
Profile Joined March 2010
United States437 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 03:22:54
July 20 2012 21:52 GMT
#1794
So, here's my info:

Started Inferno Act 1:
42k HP
9k DPS
0 LoH
92 AR

Then I started looking in this thread... Now I'm:

Currently: Act 1
27.3k HP
11.3k DPS
135 LoH
626 AR

Obviously, I focused on getting my AR up quite a bit, and things are so much easier. I died almost right away when I first got to A1, now I'm getting through it just fine (some yellow guys still own me though).

But my question is, what do I focus on now?

LoH? Maybe get a new weapon with a socket? I'm still getting more AR, only about half my armor is AR+poison res right now, so I'm focusing on that, but I'm not sure if there's something more important. Maybe I'm missing something else important?

EDIT: Ok, so just got AR over 600. Still got a little to go, but the auctions are under way. What's the best way to look for LoH? DEX/Life per hit/has sockets?
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
July 20 2012 22:05 GMT
#1795
On July 21 2012 06:52 ElvisWayCool wrote:
So, here's my info:

Started Inferno Act 1:
42k HP
9k DPS
0 LoH
92 AR

Then I started looking in this thread... Now I'm:

Currently: Act 1
35.7k HP
10.2k DPS
135 LoH
494 AR

Obviously, I focused on getting my AR up quite a bit, and things are so much easier. I died almost right away when I first got to A1, now I'm getting through it just fine (some yellow guys still own me though).

But my question is, what do I focus on now?

LoH? Maybe get a new weapon with a socket? I'm still getting more AR, only about half my armor is AR+poison res right now, so I'm focusing on that, but I'm not sure if there's something more important. Maybe I'm missing something else important?


From my knowledge 600-700 AR will get you where you need to go. LoH is a need, and DPS is a need.

Once you have enough LoH, AR, and Armor to tank threw anything, focus on DPS. Killing a mob threw a serenity is sometimes easier then tanking it.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
July 20 2012 22:17 GMT
#1796
On July 09 2012 13:09 Burrfoot wrote:
Those are some pretty well rolled legendaries.

At what point do people drop Transendence? I still get a warm fuzzy knowing when I mash mantra, I heal myself. I've started to go crit/crit damage (31%/+122%), but keep my attack speed above 2 and LoH around 700, so I'm not quite over the hump as jewelry eludes me.

Then again, when I'm walled in desecration, plague, with 12 arcane sentries are about to hit me, and I'm surrounded by shielded/invulnerable minions so I can't regen... I'm not sure what we're supposed to do.


I dropped Transcendence when i got LoH around 1k.

The scenario you are describing is why i run with dashing strike. The mobility it gives is a lifesaver.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
July 21 2012 05:39 GMT
#1797
On July 21 2012 06:52 ElvisWayCool wrote:
So, here's my info:

Started Inferno Act 1:
42k HP
9k DPS
0 LoH
92 AR

Then I started looking in this thread... Now I'm:

Currently: Act 1
27.3k HP
11.3k DPS
135 LoH
626 AR

Obviously, I focused on getting my AR up quite a bit, and things are so much easier. I died almost right away when I first got to A1, now I'm getting through it just fine (some yellow guys still own me though).

But my question is, what do I focus on now?

LoH? Maybe get a new weapon with a socket? I'm still getting more AR, only about half my armor is AR+poison res right now, so I'm focusing on that, but I'm not sure if there's something more important. Maybe I'm missing something else important?

EDIT: Ok, so just got AR over 600. Still got a little to go, but the auctions are under way. What's the best way to look for LoH? DEX/Life per hit/has sockets?

MOAR LOH. I would suggest finding it on an amulet. You can find a 600+ LoH amulet with a little resist and dex for ~2-3 mil, and that will be way more than enough to cruise through Act 1. Loh ~1k is amazing in that it lets you face tank all but the most dangerous mobs(and lasers) so long as there is no CC or shielding, almost regardless of tankiness to some degree. If you have 5-600 AR, 1k LoH will let you cruise through anything in Act 1 just facerolling your keyboard.

After you get ~800 LoH, then you want a big weapon upgrade. I personally would suggest a simple 200+ dex fist around 900 dps, and a ~800 dps weapon with a socket and ~150 dex. You can find both for under 5 mill, and you decide whether you need more LoH in the form of a giant amethyst, or massive crit damage in the form of a emerald. That should easily put you ~17-18k dps by itself.
crisiscore
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia72 Posts
July 21 2012 10:10 GMT
#1798
On July 21 2012 06:52 ElvisWayCool wrote:
So, here's my info:

Started Inferno Act 1:
42k HP
9k DPS
0 LoH
92 AR

Then I started looking in this thread... Now I'm:

Currently: Act 1
27.3k HP
11.3k DPS
135 LoH
626 AR

Obviously, I focused on getting my AR up quite a bit, and things are so much easier. I died almost right away when I first got to A1, now I'm getting through it just fine (some yellow guys still own me though).

But my question is, what do I focus on now?

LoH? Maybe get a new weapon with a socket? I'm still getting more AR, only about half my armor is AR+poison res right now, so I'm focusing on that, but I'm not sure if there's something more important. Maybe I'm missing something else important?

EDIT: Ok, so just got AR over 600. Still got a little to go, but the auctions are under way. What's the best way to look for LoH? DEX/Life per hit/has sockets?


I totally agree with getting more life on hit.
I noticed a massive difference with how much I could withstand massive mobs and or champ/elite pack damage.
Would also recommend a little more resists, i completed inferno diablo on about 760 resists as I was duel wielding, but with a shield i was between 800-900. Probobably no point in getting more than 900 though as it's kind of diminishing returns. I have also completed inferno on a barbarian and wizard and they all have roughly betwwen 750-850 resists.

Life per hit on a weapon and your amulet are the sources, i actually got a very high life on hit off hand weapon so i only went with a good 400ish life on hit amulet but my life on hit is probably overboard of what you need to do inferno diablo. A 400-500 life on hit amulet with good stats is what you should be looking for if you can't afford a 600+ one or find one with a good balance of other stats.

You should also try to get your life up to 30-35K (30k atleast) if you can. It helps with not getting one shotted by malochors / gulgors and those huge towering leg things in acts 3/4 when you get there.

Once you get to a point where you survivability is really good then start thinking about getting your DPS up for the later acts. Because if you can survive the damage you might as well deal / dish it out faster (survivabilty in terms of armour, resists, life on hit, life per second, total life). I pretty much completed all my characters (except demon hunter) on inferno this way by going tanky, then turning the tank into a tank/dps character

Good luck bro.

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lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
July 22 2012 22:13 GMT
#1799
something people seem to over look is life regn.

My monk
~28k hp
6.5k armor
780 all res
20k dmg (unbuff)
38% crit/~150 crit dmg

~800 Loh/950 life/sec

i use to have ~900 all res 33k hp and ~700 loh,zero life/regn. But i found that sacrificing the 100 all res,5k hp is worth it for the life regn.

I can solo act 3 except for a couple packs (hulking phase like)
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 23:15:28
July 22 2012 22:19 GMT
#1800
I have just one short question, can you tank triple AOE elites on the third act of inferno? I ran into a elite that was quick as f***, had fire chain, descerator (or whatever it is called) and molten. The damage was insane, I have never given up on an elite prior to this one but this was just retarded.

I thought I had a pretty strong build, it goes something like this:

39k Hp
780 AR
6.2k Armor
1.5k LoH - attack speed 2.1
19k dps

With this I use Crippling wave with concussion, Healing Mantra with resistant rune, serenity and inner sanctuary with damage reduction rune and Transcendence as defensive skills.

To summarize I can heal continuously around 5k hp per/sec and have 74% elemental resistance and 67% armor reduction plus 32% dodge.

I can tell you did not stand a chance in hell. I died within seconds (2-3). Is there even a way to tank this? Cause I cannot even come up with ideas how I could withstand more AOE damage. Resolve does not effect AOE, my resistance is already at such a high level it becomes stat inefficient to get it higher. Dodge does not either effect AOE as far as I get it. Not sure how shield work, can you "block" AOE?

I guess something like a high speed/stun/dash build could have worked with some good mechanics. Did not try that but that is not really relevant for the question, if you can tank it?

This was on the other hand worse case scenario cause I got them immediately at an dungeon entrance but I am not sure it would have made a difference either way cause they had more then twice my movement speed.

Well GG on that elite, restart game and hope he dont spawn again.

EDIT: Does anyone know if all AOE stack by the way? Like if you stand in two overlapping plague pools or two molten "walk paths" does it take twice the damage?
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