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OK. So heres my current build.
Skills
http://i.imgur.com/2854e.jpg
Stats without hp/armor/dmg buffs
http://i.imgur.com/dyH4k.jpg
Items
http://i.imgur.com/cPzxq.jpg
Currently have no problems with most of Act II minus maybe belial although I need to try it again. Mostly looking for advice on alternate skills and which items are most needy of upgrades. Haven't even attempted A3 yet, not sure if i'm ready or not. Been mostly doing Butcher/Magdha runs although recently been skipping bosses and just going for elites since it seems to have better results.
Also particularily a fan of this farming run from JSP
+ Show Spoiler +http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63373710&f=142Use this route, and ignore bosses: Northern Highlands - Watch tower dungeon (go north west). If it's not there restart. Festering woods Cemetary (crypts) Cathedral 3 (check for elite near WP, if not there leave) Leoric's manor - exit and kill elite outside (short walk). Sometimes you'll find one inside on your way out too) ---Sometimes ill just finish and go through Warden/Butcher killing any elites I find on the way after this but that can take almost twice as long as everything done before it. Is nice going into all of that section already with 5 stacks though.
Thanks
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On June 23 2012 04:58 Charger wrote:One of you monks care to price this stone for me? I'd use it myself if I used Deadly Reach (maybe I should consider that actually lol :p). Thank you! <3 + Show Spoiler +
Try and get at least 4 - 5 million gold for that I'd say. I mean search for what its currently going for as well. Specific name searches are your best friend.
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^^ Thank you 
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I am in the process of gearing up my monk, and trying to decide whether I should go for a dual wield build or shield build. Looking at about 1600+ dex 900 all resist 25% crit 40k hp. This is not counting the stats a shield would give. Will be using fists of thunder and sweeping wind.
I am very rich so I'm in the position where I can buy two 1k+ dps 1 handers with 600+ life on hit. Or I can buy one of those and a very nice shield and maybe a justice lantern. What is better? This will be my main farming character so being able to kill stuff both smoothly and quickly is important.
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dual wield is stupid you can do better with 1 h and shield and cheaper.
life on hit isn't even that good anymore but with nerf it's possible to get by with high resist/armour and just use transcendence/heal spells. and a small amount of life on hit and or regen
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On June 24 2012 03:37 Slayer91 wrote:
dual wield is stupid you can do better with 1 h and shield and cheaper.
life on hit isn't even that good anymore but with nerf it's possible to get by with high resist/armour and just use transcendence/heal spells. and a small amount of life on hit and or regen
That sounds like really terrible advice. My gear will be worth over 200 mil. I will not be using heal spells.
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On June 24 2012 03:48 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 03:37 Slayer91 wrote:
dual wield is stupid you can do better with 1 h and shield and cheaper.
life on hit isn't even that good anymore but with nerf it's possible to get by with high resist/armour and just use transcendence/heal spells. and a small amount of life on hit and or regen That sounds like really terrible advice. My gear will be worth over 200 mil. I will not be using heal spells.
What's the point of asking for advice? You can clear the game with 10m worth of gear with smart buying. If you have 200m just fuck around and buy the most expensive dps gear to roll through content. I'm pretty sure this applies to every class.
edit: Wait, you are going to spend 200m on a monk just so you can farm efficiently? Wtf?
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On June 24 2012 03:53 Daozzt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 03:48 Crushinator wrote:On June 24 2012 03:37 Slayer91 wrote:
dual wield is stupid you can do better with 1 h and shield and cheaper.
life on hit isn't even that good anymore but with nerf it's possible to get by with high resist/armour and just use transcendence/heal spells. and a small amount of life on hit and or regen That sounds like really terrible advice. My gear will be worth over 200 mil. I will not be using heal spells. What's the point of asking for advice? You can clear the game with 10m worth of gear with smart buying. If you have 200m just fuck around and buy the most expensive dps gear to roll through content. I'm pretty sure this applies to every class. edit: Wait, you are going to spend 200m on a monk just so you can farm efficiently? Wtf?
Yes? I am asking whether it is more efficient to go for a shield or dual wield build. I have read that even at highest end gear it isn't worth it, and others have told me that it is. I want peoples opinions on this before I go out and buy the 1 handers.
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Dual wielding is obviously faster at killing shit given you have enough resist/hp to survive everything in inferno. It's just a trade off between never dying and killing slowly, or dying occasionally and killing 3x faster. Or, if you can somehow manage 50k dps, 900 resist, 40k hp, 1.5k loh with dual wielding, you'll never die at all.
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On June 24 2012 03:48 Crushinator wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 03:37 Slayer91 wrote:
dual wield is stupid you can do better with 1 h and shield and cheaper.
life on hit isn't even that good anymore but with nerf it's possible to get by with high resist/armour and just use transcendence/heal spells. and a small amount of life on hit and or regen That sounds like really terrible advice. My gear will be worth over 200 mil. I will not be using heal spells.
What are you trying to do.
Clear inferno? Best way is with sword+shield minimum gear most effective.
farm inferno? Minmum gear with mf --> Sword+shield with mf is still better.
Clear AS FAST AS POSSIBLE (why?) --> 2 hander or DW.
Dual wield is really a horribly small dps boost while the stat boost from shield is much better + block.
Going more DPS stats on gear and heal spells is still far better than any other option since basically FoT+Sweeping wind+mystic all+overawe pretty much the best DPS you're goingto get and you still want invulnerability and the blazing wrath DPS boost so no reason not to get the 2 heal spells.
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On June 24 2012 04:17 Daozzt wrote:
Dual wielding is obviously faster at killing shit given you have enough resist/hp to survive everything in inferno. It's just a trade off between never dying and killing slowly, or dying occasionally and killing 3x faster.
Ok, if you put it that way it seems like an obvious choice for dual wielding. But the author of the diablofans monk guide seems to think the crit chance you can get on shield kind of offsets the extra damage from dual wielding. I'm assuming because of more tornados. Is he exaggerating?
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On June 24 2012 04:18 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 03:48 Crushinator wrote:On June 24 2012 03:37 Slayer91 wrote:
dual wield is stupid you can do better with 1 h and shield and cheaper.
life on hit isn't even that good anymore but with nerf it's possible to get by with high resist/armour and just use transcendence/heal spells. and a small amount of life on hit and or regen That sounds like really terrible advice. My gear will be worth over 200 mil. I will not be using heal spells. What are you trying to do. Clear inferno? Best way is with sword+shield minimum gear most effective. farm inferno? Minmum gear with mf --> Sword+shield with mf is still better. Clear AS FAST AS POSSIBLE (why?) --> 2 hander or DW. Dual wield is really a horribly small dps boost while the stat boost from shield is much better + block. Going more DPS stats on gear and heal spells is still far better than any other option since basically FoT+Sweeping wind+mystic all+overawe pretty much the best DPS you're goingto get and you still want invulnerability and the blazing wrath DPS boost so no reason not to get the 2 heal spells.
That's actually a misconception. Taking off this offhand brings my dps from 56k to 34k. That's pretty significant-- it's the difference between being able to burst elites within 1 serenity.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oiply.png)
The point is that after the inferno mob damage nerf, you're pretty much invincible if you're rich and geared, shield or not, so why not do more damage?
Also, the question about the shield with crit. I was using a while ago with 9.5% crit and 120 dex. It's nowhere near the dps of dual wielding (provided your offhand has 100+ crit dmg, high dex)
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That's all other things equal and with a godlike 2 hander. If you can clear inferno easily why not just go 200%+ MF with sword+shield and still take <20 seconds per elite?
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On June 24 2012 04:25 Daozzt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 04:18 Slayer91 wrote:On June 24 2012 03:48 Crushinator wrote:On June 24 2012 03:37 Slayer91 wrote:
dual wield is stupid you can do better with 1 h and shield and cheaper.
life on hit isn't even that good anymore but with nerf it's possible to get by with high resist/armour and just use transcendence/heal spells. and a small amount of life on hit and or regen That sounds like really terrible advice. My gear will be worth over 200 mil. I will not be using heal spells. What are you trying to do. Clear inferno? Best way is with sword+shield minimum gear most effective. farm inferno? Minmum gear with mf --> Sword+shield with mf is still better. Clear AS FAST AS POSSIBLE (why?) --> 2 hander or DW. Dual wield is really a horribly small dps boost while the stat boost from shield is much better + block. Going more DPS stats on gear and heal spells is still far better than any other option since basically FoT+Sweeping wind+mystic all+overawe pretty much the best DPS you're goingto get and you still want invulnerability and the blazing wrath DPS boost so no reason not to get the 2 heal spells. Also, the question about the shield with crit. I was using a while ago with 9.5% crit and 120 dex. It's nowhere near the dps of dual wielding (provided your offhand has 100+ crit dmg, high dex)
That answers my question. Thanks.
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That was pretty obvious already?
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On June 24 2012 04:18 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 03:48 Crushinator wrote:On June 24 2012 03:37 Slayer91 wrote:
dual wield is stupid you can do better with 1 h and shield and cheaper.
life on hit isn't even that good anymore but with nerf it's possible to get by with high resist/armour and just use transcendence/heal spells. and a small amount of life on hit and or regen That sounds like really terrible advice. My gear will be worth over 200 mil. I will not be using heal spells. What are you trying to do. Clear inferno? Best way is with sword+shield minimum gear most effective. farm inferno? Minmum gear with mf --> Sword+shield with mf is still better. Clear AS FAST AS POSSIBLE (why?) --> 2 hander or DW. Dual wield is really a horribly small dps boost while the stat boost from shield is much better + block. Going more DPS stats on gear and heal spells is still far better than any other option since basically FoT+Sweeping wind+mystic all+overawe pretty much the best DPS you're goingto get and you still want invulnerability and the blazing wrath DPS boost so no reason not to get the 2 heal spells.
If so you're doing it wrong. Try stacking up crit chance/crit damage, and get an actually good second weapon. When you get a good weapon with like 120%+ crit damage and good stats, your damage will drop a ton equipping a shield. Even with one of those high crit shields.
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For maximized DPS, it's much better to go for a 2h than two 1h, the increased crit damage you'll get from the 1h isn't enough to offset the much higher dps of the 2h(you can get a 1.4k-1.5k dps with slot 2h for cheaper than two 1-1.1k dps 1h with slot)
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On June 24 2012 04:39 Slayer91 wrote:
That was pretty obvious already?
Pretty sure you were just telling him the opposite, and now apparently it's obvious.
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On June 24 2012 04:42 AssuredVacancy wrote:
For maximized DPS, it's much better to go for a 2h than two 1h, the increased crit damage you'll get from the 1h isn't enough to offset the much higher dps of the 2h(you can get a 1.4k-1.5k dps with slot 2h for cheaper than two 1-1.1k dps 1h with slot)
The problem I have with 2h is I still like to use LoH, have it on rings/amulet. 2h feels way too slow to utilize it for me.
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On June 24 2012 04:42 AssuredVacancy wrote:
For maximized DPS, it's much better to go for a 2h than two 1h, the increased crit damage you'll get from the 1h isn't enough to offset the much higher dps of the 2h(you can get a 1.4k-1.5k dps with slot 2h for cheaper than two 1-1.1k dps 1h with slot)
That's untrue also. As of right now, there aren't any 2'handers on the auction house (at any price) that will match the dps of my 785 dps 1'handers with 500 dex, +285% crit dmg, 15% attack speed which I bought for 3m total.
Actually, a miracle 2'hander that somehow has 1600 dps, 200 dex, and 150% crit dmg will break even for me if it even exists.
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