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Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
June 24 2012 21:29 GMT
#1441
On June 25 2012 05:36 sandroba wrote:
Okay my dual wielding build now is this http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#akXigd!ZUX!YabcYb
You can change conviction to something else if you need more defense (I suggest you try evasion/backlash to see if it's enough). You can sub dash for cyclone strike and see what you like best, each has it's advantages (cyclone procs resolve on everything on the screen, but it's more spirit hungry, so those damn blood sorcerers are more annoying)
Mods you need on your weapons are life/spirit socket and crit dmg. Optional mods are life leech dexterity and life on hit. Your gear should focus on mass resists armor dexterity crit chance and attack speed, with enough vit so you don't get burst down easily. You can get sick dps with this build.
EDIT: If your dps is high enough you can ditch every sustain for dual life leech.



If you're dual wielding, I would strongly suggest subbing out dashing strike for blind with the dmg buff (which also stacks with overawe), since the build is centered around bursting elites down, and gives you another interrupt.
TheHansBecker
Profile Joined February 2011
United States117 Posts
June 24 2012 22:55 GMT
#1442
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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
June 24 2012 22:58 GMT
#1443
The better defensive mantra is evasion/hard target. However, once you're geared enough, you can pick whatever mantra you want (Conviction/Overawe).
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
June 24 2012 22:58 GMT
#1444
until blizz realizes they need to let mantra of healing somehow scale with your gear/hp mantra of evasion is going to be the superior defensive choice imho.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
TheHansBecker
Profile Joined February 2011
United States117 Posts
June 24 2012 23:27 GMT
#1445
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 24 2012 23:56 GMT
#1446
On June 25 2012 06:29 Daozzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 05:36 sandroba wrote:
Okay my dual wielding build now is this http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#akXigd!ZUX!YabcYb
You can change conviction to something else if you need more defense (I suggest you try evasion/backlash to see if it's enough). You can sub dash for cyclone strike and see what you like best, each has it's advantages (cyclone procs resolve on everything on the screen, but it's more spirit hungry, so those damn blood sorcerers are more annoying)
Mods you need on your weapons are life/spirit socket and crit dmg. Optional mods are life leech dexterity and life on hit. Your gear should focus on mass resists armor dexterity crit chance and attack speed, with enough vit so you don't get burst down easily. You can get sick dps with this build.
EDIT: If your dps is high enough you can ditch every sustain for dual life leech.



If you're dual wielding, I would strongly suggest subbing out dashing strike for blind with the dmg buff (which also stacks with overawe), since the build is centered around bursting elites down, and gives you another interrupt.

3 seconds of 30%dps every 15 sec is a 6% dps increase. Also i use quickening instead of thunderclap for more spirit which i dump for a constant 24%dps increase and a lot of healing. If i subbed out dashing strike i would need thunderclap to chase mobs and speed up my run and that would result in overall lower dps and survivability due to less spirit and less mobilty. So blind has no place in this build unfortunately, cuz other stuff is simply much better.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 00:09:42
June 25 2012 00:05 GMT
#1447
On June 25 2012 08:56 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 06:29 Daozzt wrote:
On June 25 2012 05:36 sandroba wrote:
Okay my dual wielding build now is this http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#akXigd!ZUX!YabcYb
You can change conviction to something else if you need more defense (I suggest you try evasion/backlash to see if it's enough). You can sub dash for cyclone strike and see what you like best, each has it's advantages (cyclone procs resolve on everything on the screen, but it's more spirit hungry, so those damn blood sorcerers are more annoying)
Mods you need on your weapons are life/spirit socket and crit dmg. Optional mods are life leech dexterity and life on hit. Your gear should focus on mass resists armor dexterity crit chance and attack speed, with enough vit so you don't get burst down easily. You can get sick dps with this build.
EDIT: If your dps is high enough you can ditch every sustain for dual life leech.



If you're dual wielding, I would strongly suggest subbing out dashing strike for blind with the dmg buff (which also stacks with overawe), since the build is centered around bursting elites down, and gives you another interrupt.

3 seconds of 30%dps every 15 sec is a 6% dps increase. Also i use quickening instead of thunderclap for more spirit which i dump for a constant 24%dps increase and a lot of healing. If i subbed out dashing strike i would need thunderclap to chase mobs and speed up my run and that would result in overall lower dps and survivability due to less spirit and less mobilty. So blind has no place in this build unfortunately, cuz other stuff is simply much better.


I don't know exactly how it works, but blind brings me from 66k ---> 102k according to the stat sheet, so it's a lot more than 30%. You can't write it off has a mere 6% increase, because most of the time, you never stand in one spot and dps for 15 seconds long. You run in, serenity, mantra, blind, dps for 4-5 seconds, then back out for better position, or often times, the elites are already dead. The uptime of blind is really high relative to the amount of time to actually spend fighting. Thunderclap is used on top of this because it's the highest dps spirit generator; the teleport is just a bonus.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 00:12:33
June 25 2012 00:10 GMT
#1448
Well i build tanky as fuck so i don't run around much =P I like to stay in one place and hold down mouse button. Maybe i can swap out serenity soon we will see.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
June 25 2012 02:28 GMT
#1449
On June 25 2012 09:10 sandroba wrote:
Well i build tanky as fuck so i don't run around much =P I like to stay in one place and hold down mouse button. Maybe i can swap out serenity soon we will see.


I would be interested to see your gear/build. I like the idea of dual wielding, but I wouldn't know how to improve my gear.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
June 25 2012 04:08 GMT
#1450
So aside from the typical FoT/Reach-Serenity-Breath-Wind-Mantra set up, what is the 6th ability that everyone prefers? One of the few things that's a problem for me is getting surrounded (either through vortex, or anything else) and not being able to escape.

I've tried Lashing Tail Kick with Sweeping Armada; helps separate a group of mobs to DPS them down one by one, really liked this ability.

I noticed Dashing Strike is popular, played with it for a while. Definitely has its uses, but my mouse accuracy is, unfortunately, poor, and frequently I miss my targets. Sometimes one would just want to escape mobs, rather than teleport to another one.

Currently using Tempest Rush; very useful in escaping any group of mobs surrounding your character, but tends to be a little situational, not as flexible as Dashing Strike.

Or does everyone just go with Mystic Ally and hope they don't get trapped.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
June 25 2012 04:54 GMT
#1451
On June 25 2012 13:08 Hier wrote:
So aside from the typical FoT/Reach-Serenity-Breath-Wind-Mantra set up, what is the 6th ability that everyone prefers? One of the few things that's a problem for me is getting surrounded (either through vortex, or anything else) and not being able to escape.

I've tried Lashing Tail Kick with Sweeping Armada; helps separate a group of mobs to DPS them down one by one, really liked this ability.

I noticed Dashing Strike is popular, played with it for a while. Definitely has its uses, but my mouse accuracy is, unfortunately, poor, and frequently I miss my targets. Sometimes one would just want to escape mobs, rather than teleport to another one.

Currently using Tempest Rush; very useful in escaping any group of mobs surrounding your character, but tends to be a little situational, not as flexible as Dashing Strike.

Or does everyone just go with Mystic Ally and hope they don't get trapped.


I like blind with +30% damage(it's actually 50% according to char sheet, but don't tell blizzard that). It's not quite an escape, but an AoE CC is pretty good, and it helps with maximizing dps if overgeared.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2933 Posts
June 25 2012 09:16 GMT
#1452
On June 25 2012 13:54 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 13:08 Hier wrote:
So aside from the typical FoT/Reach-Serenity-Breath-Wind-Mantra set up, what is the 6th ability that everyone prefers? One of the few things that's a problem for me is getting surrounded (either through vortex, or anything else) and not being able to escape.

I've tried Lashing Tail Kick with Sweeping Armada; helps separate a group of mobs to DPS them down one by one, really liked this ability.

I noticed Dashing Strike is popular, played with it for a while. Definitely has its uses, but my mouse accuracy is, unfortunately, poor, and frequently I miss my targets. Sometimes one would just want to escape mobs, rather than teleport to another one.

Currently using Tempest Rush; very useful in escaping any group of mobs surrounding your character, but tends to be a little situational, not as flexible as Dashing Strike.

Or does everyone just go with Mystic Ally and hope they don't get trapped.


I like blind with +30% damage(it's actually 50% according to char sheet, but don't tell blizzard that). It's not quite an escape, but an AoE CC is pretty good, and it helps with maximizing dps if overgeared.


It could just be showing the wrong numbers on the char sheet (as was happening with Magic weapon for wiz) and you're just at +30% damage. Has anyone tested this ingame?
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
June 25 2012 09:19 GMT
#1453
On June 25 2012 13:08 Hier wrote:
So aside from the typical FoT/Reach-Serenity-Breath-Wind-Mantra set up, what is the 6th ability that everyone prefers? One of the few things that's a problem for me is getting surrounded (either through vortex, or anything else) and not being able to escape.

I've tried Lashing Tail Kick with Sweeping Armada; helps separate a group of mobs to DPS them down one by one, really liked this ability.

I noticed Dashing Strike is popular, played with it for a while. Definitely has its uses, but my mouse accuracy is, unfortunately, poor, and frequently I miss my targets. Sometimes one would just want to escape mobs, rather than teleport to another one.

Currently using Tempest Rush; very useful in escaping any group of mobs surrounding your character, but tends to be a little situational, not as flexible as Dashing Strike.

Or does everyone just go with Mystic Ally and hope they don't get trapped.


I prefer Dashing, If you get the timings down on it, you can dodge arcane/frozen/descrator etc. Plus helps you get out form being surrounded or dashing into a mob might save your sweeping winds.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Funq
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands77 Posts
June 25 2012 11:44 GMT
#1454
Don't think I could live without my Dashing Strike. It has saved me more times than I can count. It is vital when I have to kite groups that I can only hit a few times befire I have to run again. Especially when they're jailors or wallers.

Nowadays I also tend to run with Fire Ally instead of Sweeping Winds, but that will change as soon as I don't have to kite so much anymore.
I go to 11
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
June 25 2012 15:21 GMT
#1455
What about helms with +damage to FoT/Wind (the others, I take it, are worthless)? What are the recommendations on that? I figured since a 10% damage boost to FoT, for example, is basically a 10% overall damage boost without the Wind, it is a very sought after stat.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
June 25 2012 16:13 GMT
#1456
On June 26 2012 00:21 Hier wrote:
What about helms with +damage to FoT/Wind (the others, I take it, are worthless)? What are the recommendations on that? I figured since a 10% damage boost to FoT, for example, is basically a 10% overall damage boost without the Wind, it is a very sought after stat.


I have a 10% bonus on deadly reach on my madstone. got around 10k armor buffed with enchantress, doing magma runs. I prefer not teleporting on the enemy, it causes more problems then its worth.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
June 25 2012 18:50 GMT
#1457
well if you shift attack behind mobs you dont teleport just fyi ;p
Meh.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
June 25 2012 18:52 GMT
#1458
On June 26 2012 03:50 xZiGGY wrote:
well if you shift attack behind mobs you dont teleport just fyi ;p


I've been trying to do that for like 4 weeks, but it never works for me. Maybe I'm terrible at it, or just have a crappy computer, because I always end up teleporting on top of molten or desecration when I shift click behind.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
June 25 2012 19:57 GMT
#1459
On June 26 2012 03:52 Daozzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 03:50 xZiGGY wrote:
well if you shift attack behind mobs you dont teleport just fyi ;p


I've been trying to do that for like 4 weeks, but it never works for me. Maybe I'm terrible at it, or just have a crappy computer, because I always end up teleporting on top of molten or desecration when I shift click behind.


I prefer the dashing strike teleport. That way i don't teleport into molton
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
June 25 2012 20:43 GMT
#1460
any monks out there able to run a3 crater areas efficiently? i have 40k life and 800 all res but still get owned by elemental mobs. is the only way to deal with them basically deadly reach and kite?
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