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Regina
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands148 Posts
June 08 2012 18:57 GMT
#1001
err my monk has 950+ res. to reach that try to look for items with atleast 40 all resist + atleast 30 resist of your choiice for OWE. your gear just has to low stats in every way. (800 dex... i have 1600+, your vit is fine)
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 08 2012 19:14 GMT
#1002
On June 09 2012 02:43 Kolox wrote:
Really need help atm, I've hit a wall and cant really progress past Dahlgur Oasis in Act 2. I know i need more resist/armour, but i can't find any gear on the AH that actually upgrade these. Any items you'd reccommend swapping out?
Passives are Resolve, OwE and Sieze the Initiative.

Gear i'm currently using.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

EDIT: left my MF boots on in that picture. +75 dex +58 int +48 vit +44 coldres +49 allres +157 life/sec
Puts my resistances up to 587 and damage to 11.5k


Weapons fine, try to get a star in it when you have the star money. Then your life on hit is just fine.

Attack speed more than you need, don't be afraid to drop some for a big upgrade.
Armour is low, try to upgrade armour as well when you upgrade, especially try to find a decent blue shield that gives good block and armour.
Resist could be a bit better, at least upgrade your boots you can easily get a decent set to give you 50 or so resists and some dex/vit over what you have.

Mostly dex, armour is your problem. Try to get your resistances higher as you go but generally it's your dex and armour that will hurt you the most IMO. You want 5-6k armour unbuffed and around 1k dex, and maybe 550+ resist all. A few upgrades will get your past dalghur oasis you already have pretty good life on hit and attack speed so the extra mitigation will go a long way. I guess dex isn't THAT important but not only does it give armour and dodge but more damage helps a lot.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
June 08 2012 20:30 GMT
#1003
I really wish they would let you compare dps upgrades while browsing in the auction house. Right now, I'm dual wielding 2 ~800 dps weapons, one with 301 dex, 94% crit dmg, and the other with 214 dex, 129% crit dmg. 800 dps seems pretty outdated even with the insane stats, but I can't even tell what's an upgrade without dropping 5-10m just to try out a weapon. Does anyone know what the approximate value of crit dmg and dex relative to weapon dps?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 08 2012 20:33 GMT
#1004
Every 1 dex = +1% of your weapon damage = 100 dex is an extra weapons worth of DPS (in your case 800)
Crit dmg depends on your crit, if you have 10% crit it increases your damage by 5% (it's 1.5 x normal right?) 100% crit damage doubles it? Or adds to it? I'm not sure, anyway 100% crit damage increases your total damage by an additional 5% (or 10%)

Not counting spells of course.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
June 08 2012 20:49 GMT
#1005
Revised my build.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#UdYXkg!YcV!bbcbaY

Currently farming Act 1 inferno with <100 resist and 3.5k armor with 26k hp. I deal up to 15k dps when all my buffs are proceed.

Only having trouble with some shit elite combos like molton/frozen.

I'm prioritizing like this
1. Dex
2. Crit Damage/Crit %/IAS/+dmg

It is working very well. Looking forward to the act 2 a.k.a. the shitstorm according to 90% of people here lol
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
June 09 2012 06:08 GMT
#1006
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Never had as much fun on my monk as I have in the past hour or so. Max dps builds are probably gonna be the way to go once the patch hits and all inferno damage is nerfed.
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
June 09 2012 06:23 GMT
#1007
On June 09 2012 15:08 Daozzt wrote:
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Never had as much fun on my monk as I have in the past hour or so. Max dps builds are probably gonna be the way to go once the patch hits and all inferno damage is nerfed.


i agree since i made my monks dps geared i managed to get through act 2. i couldnt even get half way through with a tank build.

fucking overawe essentially increases your dps by 48% on top of that 120 as well so your dps is like 180k for like three seconds if you use blinding and overawe at same time.

Forever ZeNEX.
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
June 09 2012 07:08 GMT
#1008
On June 09 2012 15:08 Daozzt wrote:
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Never had as much fun on my monk as I have in the past hour or so. Max dps builds are probably gonna be the way to go once the patch hits and all inferno damage is nerfed.


Whats your unbuffed damage with that gear? Really hard to put into prospective because of the way the blind buff scales against AS with that shrine up. Pretty interested in what your weapon dps is at, and how you find surviving the average rare pack with that setup. Im assuming they die in the duration of blind/serenity really easily... Looks like tonnes of fun for sure
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
June 09 2012 07:25 GMT
#1009
On June 09 2012 16:08 Wetty wrote:
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On June 09 2012 15:08 Daozzt wrote:
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Never had as much fun on my monk as I have in the past hour or so. Max dps builds are probably gonna be the way to go once the patch hits and all inferno damage is nerfed.


Whats your unbuffed damage with that gear? Really hard to put into prospective because of the way the blind buff scales against AS with that shrine up. Pretty interested in what your weapon dps is at, and how you find surviving the average rare pack with that setup. Im assuming they die in the duration of blind/serenity really easily... Looks like tonnes of fun for sure


Damage is around 50.3k unbuffed. I was messing around with the sweeping winds cyclone rune to kill bosses for fun, but man they drop fast (butcher <10 seconds, belial before first ground explosion). I normally have mystic ally swapped out for sweeping winds against normal packs. You can die pretty fast without careful positioning even with ~700 resist, but that will be fixed during the next patch.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 07:41:33
June 09 2012 07:39 GMT
#1010
Where did you guys farm in between just finishing A2 and starting A3? I finished A2 recently, and A3 blue packs absolutely wreck me (for example, a Colossal Gorger (the abomination with maces) one shots me with all my buffs up). Is there a good spot in A2, or is it more Butcher runs?
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 07:50:02
June 09 2012 07:49 GMT
#1011
On June 09 2012 16:39 seiferoth10 wrote:
Where did you guys farm in between just finishing A2 and starting A3? I finished A2 recently, and A3 blue packs absolutely wreck me (for example, a Colossal Gorger (the abomination with maces) one shots me with all my buffs up). Is there a good spot in A2, or is it more Butcher runs?

Could always try maghda runs instead of butcher runs. I know a lot of people just farm boring gold goblins and such.
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AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
June 09 2012 08:03 GMT
#1012
I'm at izual in infernal and I have no idea how to solo him as monk... his teleport attack one hit kos me and there's no way that i can think of of dodging it... can anyone help?
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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
June 09 2012 08:22 GMT
#1013
On June 09 2012 15:08 Daozzt wrote:
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Never had as much fun on my monk as I have in the past hour or so. Max dps builds are probably gonna be the way to go once the patch hits and all inferno damage is nerfed.


This is what I've been saying in this thread all along. Monks by Blizzard definition are not meant to tank. I am fucking digging the 122k dps, fucking godlike. Right now im at 18k with 400dps weapons duel wield.

Shit can't kill you if it dies faster then 7 seconds.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
June 09 2012 08:35 GMT
#1014
Jesus Christ 50k is incredibly sickk....I only reached that with my wizard. Currently at like 25k with a 2h...lol.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 08:51:16
June 09 2012 08:49 GMT
#1015
On June 09 2012 17:22 Jisall wrote:
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On June 09 2012 15:08 Daozzt wrote:
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Never had as much fun on my monk as I have in the past hour or so. Max dps builds are probably gonna be the way to go once the patch hits and all inferno damage is nerfed.


This is what I've been saying in this thread all along. Monks by Blizzard definition are not meant to tank. I am fucking digging the 122k dps, fucking godlike. Right now im at 18k with 400dps weapons duel wield.

Shit can't kill you if it dies faster then 7 seconds.

Wow, I need to try this. The best part is that this way I can share gear between my DH and monk.

On June 09 2012 17:03 AssuredVacancy wrote:
I'm at izual in infernal and I have no idea how to solo him as monk... his teleport attack one hit kos me and there's no way that i can think of of dodging it... can anyone help?

I've seen barbs do it by kiting him around while Tyrael kills him. Pretty cheesy, but it gets the job done... just make sure to stay around one of the pits since if he has a straight line to you and is within range he will charge you and you will die.

edit: probably doesn't work anymore with the Tyrael nerfs
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Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 08:54:30
June 09 2012 08:50 GMT
#1016
I don't think mass dps builds are going to be the way to go after Inferno nerfs. They were actually the way to go for farming A3-A4 if you didn't have really great gear, and now they will no longer be a good option for most.

I feel like a endgame-level monk should be able to tank well and should learn to balance/maximize his tanking capability and dps output. I think little will change if you are a good Monk who's been playing Act 3 and Act 4. The only thing I see myself doing with the patch is reducing my vitality a slight bit for more dexterity. A1 and A2 Monk farmers will simply have a much easier time without having good gear now and get away with their dps-oriented build even more. I think it will be more profitable in the end to upgrade your gear and use the skills necessary to be a good enough tank with a decent base damage output (16k-20k) so that you can clear Act 3 and Act 4 well. A1 and A2 simply won't be that profitable, even if you can do it much faster, the good drops are just going to be too rare.

If you want to do a lot of damage and die in 1 hit, why not just play a Demon Hunter?
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 09:07:01
June 09 2012 09:02 GMT
#1017
On June 09 2012 15:08 Daozzt wrote:
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Never had as much fun on my monk as I have in the past hour or so. Max dps builds are probably gonna be the way to go once the patch hits and all inferno damage is nerfed.



It's fun but the thing is you can't solo the game as it is now with that gear and build, I'm 100% sure of it. It's a bad investment if you are gearing yourself (which it looks like you are) purely to be a good damage dealer and you die extremely easily. Unless you are planning to reroll with a DH. There are so many elite packs you can't do with this build... even if your dps was legit (you are using a frenzy shrine and the blind 3 second buff on that screenshot, so a lot of that dps there you don't have with you most of the time). I can't see you farming A3-A4 profitably at all - I imagine you abusing doors like Demon Hunters do.

Anyway, I did a fun ss like this too, but with 1h/shield and no dps-boosting shrine :D

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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 10:14:58
June 09 2012 10:11 GMT
#1018
On June 09 2012 17:22 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 15:08 Daozzt wrote:
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[image loading]


Never had as much fun on my monk as I have in the past hour or so. Max dps builds are probably gonna be the way to go once the patch hits and all inferno damage is nerfed.


This is what I've been saying in this thread all along. Monks by Blizzard definition are not meant to tank. I am fucking digging the 122k dps, fucking godlike. Right now im at 18k with 400dps weapons duel wield.

Shit can't kill you if it dies faster then 7 seconds.


Yeah this guy with 120k DPS and 700 resist all is certainly doing better than the guys stuck in act 2 with 450 resist all and 10 k DPS, who woulda thought?
Obviously DPS is great because it lets you clear stuff faster.
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
June 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#1019
DPS is the least important thing for a Monk if you're trying to finish the game and farm the tougher acts. You should have enough so that you can kill elite packs before the enrage timer hits and that's all. If you have difficulties once you reach A3 I recommend focusing on life on hit and life per spirit spent, vitality, res and armor first. I solo'd late Act 3 and all of Act 4 including Diablo with 5500~ armor, 730 res, 50k vit and 16.5k dps (all stats unbuffed). I had 1330 life on hit and 143 life per spirit spent total with Transcendence, which is key.
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 15:41:32
June 09 2012 15:41 GMT
#1020
This is my current team build, inferno act 3, with barb wiz and DH as my allies;

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#WhXgRc!YZX!ZaYaac

In terms of theory crafting a build based around crits like this seems like the ultimate build:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#ahiefX!YWX!YaYY.Z
Basically with very high crit chance and attack speed without loosing too much res, armor, health and life on hit, you basically have a spirit generating monster that uses cyclone strike as survivability by spaming it, and wave of light should crit almost every time you hit. Also crit dmg would be very effective in this building, increasing your dmg output by a lot.
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