EPTIt's not a simple question of "if I can tank it, I can beat it". Enrage timers significantly complicate the issue of soloing Inferno because if you don't kill things fast enough, then you will die regardless.
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
It's not a simple question of "if I can tank it, I can beat it". Enrage timers significantly complicate the issue of soloing Inferno because if you don't kill things fast enough, then you will die regardless. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On May 23 2012 02:48 mmagic wrote: I'm not playing Barbarian as main caracter but I have a question for all of you playing Barbarians and complaining about game being difficult and you dying easy in Inferno and Hell. And reading that in fact mages can take a couple of hits with no problem (maybe because of huge intelect which equals magic resistance) Do you use items with intelect and dexterity bonuses????? You do realise the only reason wizards can take hits is because of their rune/abilities and not the intelect. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 23 2012 03:23 Numy wrote: You do realise the only reason wizards can take hits is because of their rune/abilities and not the intelect. Yeah it's pretty much laughable for anyone to use Energy Armor/Force Armor to say mages can "take a few hits". Without it they would be getting 1-shot just like the rest of us. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
you're pretty much required to run berserk with +100% damage to deal with elites anyway so i imagine as long as u aren't kiting them for minutes at a time you'll be fine | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 23 2012 03:27 Dead9 wrote: i haven't run into any issues with enrage timers but i haven't gotten to act 2 inferno yet you're pretty much required to run berserk with +100% damage to deal with elites anyway so i imagine as long as u aren't kiting them for minutes at a time you'll be fine I'm not sure you can say it's required. Other Inferno Barbs posting in this thread have posted setups not using any of the 2 min CDs. But that's one way of getting around enrages I suppose. One thing I need to ask: what time is counted on enrage timers? Does time when you're dead count toward the enrage? | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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Hadley_
Germany157 Posts
Now trying a Wizard instead. So, basically 1 Week of wasted time. Barb was so fun until Hell/Inferno. Its just ridiuclous if I ask my Friendlist and DH,WD and Wizards tell me they beat Inferno with Hell Gear and 25k hp -_- | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 23 2012 03:35 Dead9 wrote: idk generally if it takes more than a couple minutes to kill a mob we just give up and walk around it lol Yeah that's fine. I'd expect everyone to do that. But consider if you had 25% less DPS overall. You'd be walking around way more of those mobs. And you have to find at least 5 you don't leave to get your Neph stacks. | ||
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Coolness53
United States668 Posts
I have been farming inferno act I for the last 4 days and can kill all the champion mobs that are put at me. My stats: All resistance base 565, 40k life, 11k in damage. My damage is a little low but can stand toe to toe with champion mobs and not die. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On May 23 2012 03:38 TheYango wrote: Yeah that's fine. I'd expect everyone to do that. But consider if you had 25% less DPS overall. You'd be walking around way more of those mobs. And you have to find at least 5 you don't leave to get your Neph stacks. yea that's why i think berserk is a must tho i mean the 120 cd isn't a big deal when you're crawling through inferno anyway, and the buff is ridiculously good and lets you kill a lot of stuff you otherwise couldn't | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
This could be huge for us barbs. I think -maybe- with the current gear we might be able to solo through act 3ish. I could tank act 4 (wildly variant on revenge procs) but doable. With this damage reducer being fixed, my god we might be god like tanks. Now, for soloing this helps us as well, we can stack more strength, maybe, just maybe go d/w or 2h at times. I'm at work for another 5 hours but I'm very curious of those in game that can test the fix. tl;dr the melee 30% reduction was broken until today, it is now live. So please, tell me how it's changed your play! | ||
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
where do i get 30%, only in inferno or everyhwere, what do ineed to do to get it etc. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45924 Posts
On May 23 2012 03:49 crms wrote: So apparently with the server update, the melee 30% reduction is now live. I guess it was bugged before. This could be huge for us barbs. I think -maybe- with the current gear we might be able to solo through act 3ish. I could tank act 4 (wildly variant on revenge procs) but doable. With this damage reducer being fixed, my god we might be god like tanks. Now, for soloing this helps us as well, we can stack more strength, maybe, just maybe go d/w or 2h at times. I'm at work for another 5 hours but I'm very curious of those in game that can test the fix. tl;dr the melee 30% reduction was broken until today, it is now live. So please, tell me how it's changed your play! What is that, exactly? All players are dealt 30% less melee damage from monsters, now? | ||
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Coolness53
United States668 Posts
On May 23 2012 03:49 crms wrote: So apparently with the server update, the melee 30% reduction is now live. I guess it was bugged before. This could be huge for us barbs. I think -maybe- with the current gear we might be able to solo through act 3ish. I could tank act 4 (wildly variant on revenge procs) but doable. With this damage reducer being fixed, my god we might be god like tanks. Now, for soloing this helps us as well, we can stack more strength, maybe, just maybe go d/w or 2h at times. I'm at work for another 5 hours but I'm very curious of those in game that can test the fix. tl;dr the melee 30% reduction was broken until today, it is now live. So please, tell me how it's changed your play! Are you serious! I am going to check this out when I get home. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Coolness53
United States668 Posts
On May 23 2012 03:58 skyR wrote: 30% reduction for melee is automatic. I'm testing it now. What I am wondering if it was truly bugged. If so how much is it helping? | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On May 23 2012 03:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: What is that, exactly? All players are dealt 30% less melee damage from monsters, now? There was supposed to be an inherent mechanic that gives melee class (monk, barb) a 30% reduction in damage to allow them to actually fight monsters. Apparently until today that mechanic was broken and not applied. Now it is, so go login and test it for us!! ^_^ | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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PizzaParty
Canada169 Posts
On May 23 2012 04:09 crms wrote: There was supposed to be an inherent mechanic that gives melee class (monk, barb) a 30% reduction in damage to allow them to actually fight monsters. Apparently until today that mechanic was broken and not applied. Now it is, so go login and test it for us!! ^_^ Wo wo wo wo wo wo wo wo. Wo. Wo. Wo. Wait a minute. Are you telling me that I have been bashed in the face all week long for more damage then I was supposed to ? Is that damage reduction buff apply on all difficulties ? I have never heard of that mechanic... is there anywhere in-game or on the official online game guide where they talk about it ? When exactly as it taken effect ? | ||
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Maedi
United States477 Posts
 Is there an official patch notes somewhere? Looking around, I don't see anything official. And yeah that mechanic has been posted on the Loading Screen Tooltips like "Monks and Barbarians take 30% less damage than Witch Hunters, Wizards and Demon Hunters!" | ||
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