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Serendipityx
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States595 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 01:51:42
May 22 2014 01:50 GMT
#5161
On May 22 2014 10:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
Winter Flurry, Triumv, Firebird's Eye, Tal's Glare.

You have a lot of options for sources really. You just need to get the right one depending on what your build is.


yea, i meant what are popular builds that dont revolve around MM+ mirrorball, i currently have Tal's glare and mykens ball of hate and a disappointing +1 mirrorball but I don't know what build i should be going since it seems as if frozen orb isn't that good anymore and MM isn't an option.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 22 2014 01:54 GMT
#5162
I think MM/Mirrorball builds are probably the most popular Wiz builds atm.

Winter Flurry => Frozen Orb, Blizzard
Firebird's Eye => Meteor
Triumv and Glare lends itself to Arcane builds. Disint and/or Archon. Glare is probably more flexibility depending on how you can fit the other two Tal pieces into your item build. Personally, I think the Tal set is a bit overrated.
Myken's Ball is junk imo.
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Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
May 22 2014 08:33 GMT
#5163
Hey guys,

this seemed like a good place to ask for advice. This is my wizzard:

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Amestir-2390/hero/949565

940k buffed. My main problem is that my wizzard just feels wrong. The builds feel clucnky, constantly out of mana and just boring to play. I'm really looking for any advice, and maybe a new build with some better synergy.

Ty!
We know nothing.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#5164
you are using a fast speed dagger with frozen orb. switch to a slower wep or change to a mirrorball build
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
May 22 2014 13:53 GMT
#5165
On May 22 2014 17:33 Amestir wrote:
Hey guys,

this seemed like a good place to ask for advice. This is my wizzard:

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Amestir-2390/hero/949565

940k buffed. My main problem is that my wizzard just feels wrong. The builds feel clucnky, constantly out of mana and just boring to play. I'm really looking for any advice, and maybe a new build with some better synergy.

Ty!

Your sheet stats are fine. Like above said, get a much slower weapon. Each orb will feel very meaty (especially if you space them properly) and you won't burn through AP as quickly.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
May 22 2014 14:16 GMT
#5166
Alright, slower weapon. Got it.

ANnther question: what should I be aiming for? Atm I'm just stacking crit chance and crit damage, but surely there is a better build / goal to work to?
We know nothing.
mancomputerman
Profile Joined May 2010
United States36 Posts
May 22 2014 14:56 GMT
#5167
On May 22 2014 23:16 Amestir wrote:
Alright, slower weapon. Got it.

ANnther question: what should I be aiming for? Atm I'm just stacking crit chance and crit damage, but surely there is a better build / goal to work to?

You are not sporting any +% dmg to elemental skills except on your source, and that doesn't include cold for your frozen orb. This is the primary way to increase your dps after you've peaked on CHD and CC.

You are still sporting rares in several spots and you don't have any set items. All your stats should improve as you replace these with set or leg pieces.

Your chest and pant gems are pretty low level, upping these to the next level or two provides a nice buff.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
May 22 2014 16:01 GMT
#5168
So I found a sick moonlight ward and switched to arcane:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3202684

Should I still try to gamble for mirrorball? What is the most popular arcane build atm?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 22 2014 16:39 GMT
#5169
CDR Archon is probably most popular, followed by Disint and Torrent builds.
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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 17:04:59
May 22 2014 17:04 GMT
#5170
Not sure how I can get enough CDR given you probably want Vyr's pants/boots/gloves? Also is gesture of orpheus better than TF?
Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
May 22 2014 17:36 GMT
#5171
On May 22 2014 10:54 NeoIllusions wrote:
I think MM/Mirrorball builds are probably the most popular Wiz builds atm.

Winter Flurry => Frozen Orb, Blizzard
Firebird's Eye => Meteor
Triumv and Glare lends itself to Arcane builds. Disint and/or Archon. Glare is probably more flexibility depending on how you can fit the other two Tal pieces into your item build. Personally, I think the Tal set is a bit overrated.
Myken's Ball is junk imo.


What exactly do you mean by meteor build? No MM? I'm curious about trying this, since I have a nice FB's eye that hasn't seen any use (due to mirrorball)
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
May 22 2014 20:51 GMT
#5172
On May 23 2014 02:04 Glacierz wrote:
Not sure how I can get enough CDR given you probably want Vyr's pants/boots/gloves? Also is gesture of orpheus better than TF?

first, fuck you for getting my moonlight ward!

i like TF better because it procs tal rasha meteors (TF, sparkflint and arcana skills give me 3/4 of the meteors on basically most attakcs subject to CD), but without that i think if they are both excellent rolls, the gesture of orpheus is better.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 23 2014 12:56 GMT
#5173
I just found aughilds plan, I have mats to craft one piece, but I'd prefer to not craft something that I'd have to swap later on. So which piece of Aughilds am I most likely to use long term? (This is my profile if needed.)
Thanks.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 23 2014 13:00 GMT
#5174
Aughild is usually shoulders and bracers combo + RoRG.
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 23 2014 14:11 GMT
#5175
On May 23 2014 21:56 Cascade wrote:
I just found aughilds plan, I have mats to craft one piece, but I'd prefer to not craft something that I'd have to swap later on. So which piece of Aughilds am I most likely to use long term? (This is my profile if needed.)
Thanks.

Shoulders.

Then you can craft either bracers or helm depending on your setup, I'm using the helm right now since Strongarm Bracers are almost always BiS.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
May 23 2014 14:56 GMT
#5176
How are you guys maintaining Arcane Power with these other bracers? I'm running Reapers and I still sometimes run out.
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
May 23 2014 21:49 GMT
#5177
Well it depends on your main spender, I use MM so I don't care. For Disintegrate/Arcane Torrent it's a combination of slow attack speed, AP generation (Tal's set, passive, templar), APOC, cost reduction, Storm Armor, etc.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
May 23 2014 22:24 GMT
#5178
t4 or less, i use storm armor - power of the storm. i also have 4apoc on source and tal rasha.

>t4, i just have 4apoc and tal rasha.

i normally do not use an ap generator spell. >t4 i have ap problems, t4 or less i usually dont have problems. if you have ap problems, throw in am ap generator spell (no passive) and you should be fine.

i play groups. with solo, you can use the paladin to help generate ap.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 00:35:24
May 24 2014 00:34 GMT
#5179
Echoing what the others said for disintegrate build.

Slow attack speed weapon helps, and in general you can find better mods than ias.
Then however much you need of what big G said: storm armour, passive, paladin, reduced cost gear, APOC.

And as dafreak also said, on lower difficulty you in general spend more time running between mobs and less actually channeling, so you will have less AP problems, while at higher difficulty (or in team with weaker players) you will do more channeling per running, so you will run out more easily.

You can to some extent make up for it with play style as well. Rather than beam 2 guys for 1 second each, it is better to run 1 second so that you can beam both of them at once for 1 second. You kill them as fast, but for half the AP cost. You understand the principle. Also, the more people you can get in your beam, the more you get back from APOC, so it is actually cheaper to beam a large group than a single guy.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
May 24 2014 00:51 GMT
#5180
i would prefer to use the storm armor at all t, but survivability is an issue > t4 since i use disint-entropy and have to be in the face of monsters. i also tend to not use storm armor on t4 if i am the only one tanking (i.e., ranged wizards and dh).
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