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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 01:07:16
May 23 2012 01:00 GMT
#481
so i just got a total of 25% crit chance set... solo 4 men butcher (3 teamates got 1 hit early)........ JESUS THIS SHIT IS BROKEN

basicly i could spam diamond skin(crystal shell rune for more tank) at the rate that i wont die unless there are 2 different DoT being applied to me by elite.... pretty much spam 4 buttons like a mad man and things surrounding you are froze + nuke to death.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 01:03:07
May 23 2012 01:02 GMT
#482
having more trouble with random ass vortex/frozen/electrrified/fire link/shielded mobs then anything really.
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IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
May 23 2012 01:13 GMT
#483
On May 23 2012 09:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 09:11 Kambing wrote:
On May 23 2012 08:11 NB wrote:
On May 23 2012 07:06 Kambing wrote:
Boom. Inferno Diablo down with the crit-stun build. I ended up using explosive blast as my damage spell because it's the only spell you can spam while waiting for the frost nova cast animation. Build and stats below.

http://imgur.com/a/Z6mi2

how do you deal with the fire dot he occasionally spit out? also is that a vitality ring?


For the fire dot I just spammed Diamond Skin through it. In the cases where he got out a fireball, I usually died to the AE. One time I was able to Diamond Skin spam through it, but I think that was more luck than anything.

Yeah, the ring is my only piece of vita gear, mostly because it has crit and hp regen on it. It's only 23 vita though so it's acceptable.

Here's the VOD of the build in action against Diablo. Should make things more clear.


I watched the video and I'm not getting the cooldown reduction NEARLY as often as you do and I sit at 35% crit. What's your weapon speed at?



It's screenshotted a couple posts up.. 1.6 attack speed,
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
May 23 2012 01:23 GMT
#484
On May 23 2012 09:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 09:11 Kambing wrote:
On May 23 2012 08:11 NB wrote:
On May 23 2012 07:06 Kambing wrote:
Boom. Inferno Diablo down with the crit-stun build. I ended up using explosive blast as my damage spell because it's the only spell you can spam while waiting for the frost nova cast animation. Build and stats below.

http://imgur.com/a/Z6mi2

how do you deal with the fire dot he occasionally spit out? also is that a vitality ring?


For the fire dot I just spammed Diamond Skin through it. In the cases where he got out a fireball, I usually died to the AE. One time I was able to Diamond Skin spam through it, but I think that was more luck than anything.

Yeah, the ring is my only piece of vita gear, mostly because it has crit and hp regen on it. It's only 23 vita though so it's acceptable.

Here's the VOD of the build in action against Diablo. Should make things more clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViuwzlnAkTc

I watched the video and I'm not getting the cooldown reduction NEARLY as often as you do and I sit at 35% crit. What's your weapon speed at?


My stats are here: http://imgur.com/a/Z6mi2. Weapon speed is 1.60.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 23 2012 01:24 GMT
#485
Those procs still seem ridiculous to me. I can only seem to get that kind of stuff on illusion mobs
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 23 2012 01:27 GMT
#486
Ok wtf, I did it a different way and bugged the shit out of the game and got insta renewed cooldowns. WTF? This is definitely not working the way it should
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 23 2012 01:47 GMT
#487
like i can solo butcher just fine with the build. But the hard part about Diablo is that he actually gona walk away from you sometime which make the explodes spells got outa range therefore no crit... Also is the posion from Magic weapon Venom rune proc crit? bc if it does that seems broken and is a way better replacement for venom hydra.
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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
May 23 2012 01:56 GMT
#488
On May 23 2012 10:23 Kambing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 09:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On May 23 2012 09:11 Kambing wrote:
On May 23 2012 08:11 NB wrote:
On May 23 2012 07:06 Kambing wrote:
Boom. Inferno Diablo down with the crit-stun build. I ended up using explosive blast as my damage spell because it's the only spell you can spam while waiting for the frost nova cast animation. Build and stats below.

http://imgur.com/a/Z6mi2

how do you deal with the fire dot he occasionally spit out? also is that a vitality ring?


For the fire dot I just spammed Diamond Skin through it. In the cases where he got out a fireball, I usually died to the AE. One time I was able to Diamond Skin spam through it, but I think that was more luck than anything.

Yeah, the ring is my only piece of vita gear, mostly because it has crit and hp regen on it. It's only 23 vita though so it's acceptable.

Here's the VOD of the build in action against Diablo. Should make things more clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViuwzlnAkTc

I watched the video and I'm not getting the cooldown reduction NEARLY as often as you do and I sit at 35% crit. What's your weapon speed at?


My stats are here: http://imgur.com/a/Z6mi2. Weapon speed is 1.60.


haha awesome build. The non-stop crit build is insane apparently. Why not even use the unleashed rune for explosive blast so you can spam the blast even faster as i understand your only limited by arcane power on that.
It seems you don't even need to couple it with a no vit FA build as some +life on hit should give insane regeneration too probably while having more vitality might let you live through DoTs easier. The permastun makes opposing attacks pretty moot anyway it seems so only DoTs on creeps or boss effects present a problem i guess along with situations where you can't proc for some reason.

+attack speed seems the best way to break characters so far. It's the best boost to DPS and leads to broken stuff as super fast spirit regeneration + mantra spam for monk and this permafreeze/skin build for wiz. I have a feeling the barb can also make a permastun build based on a super high attack speed.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 23 2012 02:40 GMT
#489
Yeah, tried diablo again, didn't get anywhere close to that cooldown reset at any point. I'm at 1.61 weapon speed, 36% crit, 18k damage. Honestly have no clue how you pulled that off or if it's just a bug.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
May 23 2012 04:40 GMT
#490
On May 23 2012 10:56 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 10:23 Kambing wrote:
On May 23 2012 09:47 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On May 23 2012 09:11 Kambing wrote:
On May 23 2012 08:11 NB wrote:
On May 23 2012 07:06 Kambing wrote:
Boom. Inferno Diablo down with the crit-stun build. I ended up using explosive blast as my damage spell because it's the only spell you can spam while waiting for the frost nova cast animation. Build and stats below.

http://imgur.com/a/Z6mi2

how do you deal with the fire dot he occasionally spit out? also is that a vitality ring?


For the fire dot I just spammed Diamond Skin through it. In the cases where he got out a fireball, I usually died to the AE. One time I was able to Diamond Skin spam through it, but I think that was more luck than anything.

Yeah, the ring is my only piece of vita gear, mostly because it has crit and hp regen on it. It's only 23 vita though so it's acceptable.

Here's the VOD of the build in action against Diablo. Should make things more clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViuwzlnAkTc

I watched the video and I'm not getting the cooldown reduction NEARLY as often as you do and I sit at 35% crit. What's your weapon speed at?


My stats are here: http://imgur.com/a/Z6mi2. Weapon speed is 1.60.


haha awesome build. The non-stop crit build is insane apparently. Why not even use the unleashed rune for explosive blast so you can spam the blast even faster as i understand your only limited by arcane power on that.
It seems you don't even need to couple it with a no vit FA build as some +life on hit should give insane regeneration too probably while having more vitality might let you live through DoTs easier. The permastun makes opposing attacks pretty moot anyway it seems so only DoTs on creeps or boss effects present a problem i guess along with situations where you can't proc for some reason.

+attack speed seems the best way to break characters so far. It's the best boost to DPS and leads to broken stuff as super fast spirit regeneration + mantra spam for monk and this permafreeze/skin build for wiz. I have a feeling the barb can also make a permastun build based on a super high attack speed.

oh, the barb can get there. Even on my level 20 or so with whatever random gear.. dual wield bashing can almost stunlock the butcher. it's amusing.
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
May 23 2012 05:09 GMT
#491
On May 23 2012 11:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Yeah, tried diablo again, didn't get anywhere close to that cooldown reset at any point. I'm at 1.61 weapon speed, 36% crit, 18k damage. Honestly have no clue how you pulled that off or if it's just a bug.


You're using magic weapon with the venom rune, right? That's the big kicker for the crits.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
May 23 2012 05:41 GMT
#492
Act 3 inferno sure is a giant bitch. Just all of it, is so obnoxious, lol.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 23 2012 05:51 GMT
#493
On May 23 2012 14:09 Kambing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 11:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Yeah, tried diablo again, didn't get anywhere close to that cooldown reset at any point. I'm at 1.61 weapon speed, 36% crit, 18k damage. Honestly have no clue how you pulled that off or if it's just a bug.


You're using magic weapon with the venom rune, right? That's the big kicker for the crits.

Oh....

ROFL ya now it's working and it's ridiculous.
Mammel
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 06:50:23
May 23 2012 06:49 GMT
#494
Ok, yesterday I had FA randomly not working in games, today after maintenance it doesn't work at all. Did it get nerfed or what?
Still says "absorbed" but the dmg kills me anyways.
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
May 23 2012 07:00 GMT
#495
On May 23 2012 14:41 Leyra wrote:
Act 3 inferno sure is a giant bitch. Just all of it, is so obnoxious, lol.

What's your stats when you are doing Act 3?
I've been farming Act 1 and 2 now and have pretty decent gear now with 14,5k dps so i was thinking of trying to progress some more but what do you think about my dps, still too low for act 3?
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 07:26:58
May 23 2012 07:04 GMT
#496
It seems they have done a hidden nerf on FA during the maintenance. Was experimenting with a single inferno act 2 Bone Warrior which hits me for about 10k dmg. If I have a few vitality items to boost my hp to 13k, FA works as usual. If I removed all vita to so I get about 4k hp, the skeleton one hits me despite of FA. So it seems it doesn´t protect against 1hit KOs anymore.

It´s a shame, I used it but did not abuse it and the protection against onehits was the useful part. I would much rather see the solution that if the 35% limit was broken, the armor would dispel meaning you would have to recast it. Since there is like a 1 second cooldown on the spell, it wouldn´t be abusable the same way, and even if it was, just prolong cd to 2 or 3 seconds.

EDIT: after some further testing, I have no clue what they have done. It works, but it kind of doesn´t? If I'm hit for more than my hp I die, but when it seems to work it doesn´t limit the damage to 35% either, it takes more. When I have 13541 hp and FA active, and I am hit by a single slow missile from the bees in act 2, I get the white "absorbed text" but it still does 7168 damage, which equals to ~53% of my hp.
Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
May 23 2012 07:25 GMT
#497
EU just came out of maintenance about half an hour ago, getting oneshot with FA, too. Obviously it's not finalized because the effect doesn't match the tooltip anymore, so they must be still playing around with it. Probably only a temporary severe nerf to stop wizards farming easily while they come up with a way to balance it better, sort of like what they did to monk blind to stop the inferno world first.

Will be really disappointed if they do nerf it. I wasn't playing the crit CD build because it's just boring, but the regen build is a lot of fun and actually made some fights more difficult. It was kinda ridiculous though.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
Drunken.Jedi
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany446 Posts
May 23 2012 07:30 GMT
#498
On May 23 2012 08:43 neo_sporin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 08:29 willoc wrote:
Here's an awesome tip: You don't need to use a signature spell.

QFT
My wizard in NM HC was running
mouse1--disintigrate Obviously my main DPS spell
Mouse2--Wave of Force---secondary large area aoe, also utilized when fleeing
A-- Frost Nova--mainly used for stun lock, repositioning, or fleeing
S-- Diamond Skin--allowed me to tank a few hits if need be....not sure if it will be worth it later on or if I should swap out for another armor type skill
D-- Teleport---for fleeing
F-- Magic Weapon---to raise dps

So Obviously this build was geared towards strong survivability (which totally failed when I came across a fireline+frozen mob)
I was able to clear out most mobs very quickly with either just disintigrate, or if I knew I had a good start on them I would frost nova+wave of force for some mass shattering.

Obviously this build is not particularly optimized and I didnt utilize teleport nearly as much as I thought I could. My computer lags a bit when big groups show up and so I found I was rarely using teleport for retreating.

Generally I was very happy with the way this turned out at least through early nightmare (still early game I know).

Passives included
Blur--for survival!
evocation--allowed for a lot more novas, skins, and escaping
As I died at 35 ish and didnt love to many of the other passives at that time. I started with Illusionist but didnt find it particularly useful for me so I swapped it out for Astral Presence to allow a much longer use of disintigrate

Some comments/pointers on that:
Especially in HC I would recommend not using channeling spells as they tend to invite reckless behaviour. Instead you should use spells which allow you to keep moving and keep repositioning yourself. I think the two best safe damage spells are Hydra (use Arcane rune is good for the start, later you can switch to Venom when it becomes available) and Arcane Orb because the both dont need to be cast very often and allow you to stay mobile while having huge range.
Diamond Skin is not an armour spell, so you can combine it with one of the three armour spells. Energy Armor is probably the best even before the Force Armor rune is unlocked, but once you hit that level (think it's 55) Force Armor is a must even if you don't use a low HP build (which I wouldn't recommend for HC because you'd die to dots).
yanot
Profile Joined March 2010
France130 Posts
May 23 2012 07:41 GMT
#499
bye bye force armor

was fun while it lasted
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
May 23 2012 07:44 GMT
#500
I'm pretty sure that as soon as Blizzard takes notice of the crit build (seems to not be too wellknown yet), they will probably patch magic weapon venom to not allow crits, which will nerf the build significantly (though I still think it will be a strong build, enough enemies and you'll still get enough cooldown reduction). I mean, with magic weapon venom, you can literally just spam diamond armor through frozen enemies, I've been able to reapply diamond armor like 4 times in one freeze, which makes you completely unkillable even though you're stuck.
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