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On May 10 2011 05:16 heyoka wrote: Interesting to see unfold, GSL on real TV would be pretty huge.
according to Tasteless GSL is coming to Arirang TV and he will be commentating with Jason Lee.
Arirang TV is aired internationally through most cable provider
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Im waiting for the day i can turn my TV on and see SC2 anytime of the day or just Esport in General T.T
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Always wondered why Blizzard didn't do a graphics facelift to SC1. It would make it better for TV broadcasting...as SC1 is still the top dog in Korea... Although SC2 seems to be growing very steady.
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After I read this thread, I checked Korean article from TIG and it seems that some korean presses wrote the article based on unofficial source, so called "rumor". And everybody is saying about what is not actually happening.
The actual fact is forth court "Defense date" is delayed. After that, none of these things is just "rumor". Please, let's discuss about this after when Blizzard hold a press conference and finally made an IP agreement with Kespa.
Once again, KeSPA and Blizzard HAVE NOT YET reach an agreement. It's just guessing based on unofficial source.
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On May 10 2011 13:19 jayGroove wrote: After I read this thread, I checked Korean article from TIG and it seems that some korean presses wrote the article based on unofficial source, so called "rumor". And everybody is saying about what is not actually happening.
The actual fact is forth court "Defense date" is delayed. After that, none of these things is just "rumor". Please, let's discuss about this after when Blizzard hold a press conference and finally made an IP agreement with Kespa.
Once again, KeSPA and Blizzard DIDN'T reach an agreement. It's just guessing based on unofficial source.
Are you sure? Just because Thisisgame hasn't reported on it, it's only a rumor?
It's true that it's not the best source, but the point is that the story adds up with previous stories and bits and pieces that were written about.
We will see though, but it looks very likely at this point.
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I am so happy this is getting resolved.
Long Live BW!!!
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On May 10 2011 13:37 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 13:19 jayGroove wrote: After I read this thread, I checked Korean article from TIG and it seems that some korean presses wrote the article based on unofficial source, so called "rumor". And everybody is saying about what is not actually happening.
The actual fact is forth court "Defense date" is delayed. After that, none of these things is just "rumor". Please, let's discuss about this after when Blizzard hold a press conference and finally made an IP agreement with Kespa.
Once again, KeSPA and Blizzard DIDN'T reach an agreement. It's just guessing based on unofficial source. Are you sure? Just because Thisisgame hasn't reported on it, it's only a rumor? It's true that it's not the best source, but the point is that the story adds up with previous stories and bits and pieces that were written about. We will see though, but it looks very likely at this point.
Rumor : a story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts
I just hope these "news" wouldn't affect negotiations negatively if they are not finalized yet.
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On May 10 2011 13:37 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 13:19 jayGroove wrote: After I read this thread, I checked Korean article from TIG and it seems that some korean presses wrote the article based on unofficial source, so called "rumor". And everybody is saying about what is not actually happening.
The actual fact is forth court "Defense date" is delayed. After that, none of these things is just "rumor". Please, let's discuss about this after when Blizzard hold a press conference and finally made an IP agreement with Kespa.
Once again, KeSPA and Blizzard DIDN'T reach an agreement. It's just guessing based on unofficial source. Are you sure? Just because Thisisgame hasn't reported on it, it's only a rumor? It's true that it's not the best source, but the point is that the story adds up with previous stories and bits and pieces that were written about. We will see though, but it looks very likely at this point.
How can you judge the fact based on "알려진 바에 따르면", in english "according to as it is known "? I don't see any reasonable fact behind the article from Daily sports (일간스포츠 in English). Because the whole article was written by unknown source.
The truth will prevail in the future. And of course, the truthfulness of this artcle also. But I would say it's a little bit early to write the title like "KeSPA and Blizzard reach an agreement" for now.
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I don't really follow BW anymore, but it's good to see this resolved in a way that will allow BW to continue to be broadcasted.
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On May 10 2011 13:50 jayGroove wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 13:37 Milkis wrote:On May 10 2011 13:19 jayGroove wrote: After I read this thread, I checked Korean article from TIG and it seems that some korean presses wrote the article based on unofficial source, so called "rumor". And everybody is saying about what is not actually happening.
The actual fact is forth court "Defense date" is delayed. After that, none of these things is just "rumor". Please, let's discuss about this after when Blizzard hold a press conference and finally made an IP agreement with Kespa.
Once again, KeSPA and Blizzard DIDN'T reach an agreement. It's just guessing based on unofficial source. Are you sure? Just because Thisisgame hasn't reported on it, it's only a rumor? It's true that it's not the best source, but the point is that the story adds up with previous stories and bits and pieces that were written about. We will see though, but it looks very likely at this point. How can you judge the fact based on "알려진 바에 따르면", in english "according to as it is known "? I don't see any reasonable fact behind the article from Daily sports (일간스포츠 in English). Because the whole article was written by unknown source. Maybe this article will prove what is true or not in the future. But I would say it's a little bit early to write the title like "KeSPA and Blizzard reach an agreement" for now.
There are several sources that refer to some of the previous incidents (ie: Blizzard contacting KeSPA), and that's not just DES. Secondly, the quotation from the chairman of KeSPA also makes it likely
I think it's pretty safe to conclude simply due to the fact that it would definitely have been contradicted by now, also. It's just that the stories add up that leads me to believe that it's a high probability of certainty.
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lmao blizzard dogs, finally realising they can't survive in korea without harmony between them and kespa.
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lmao blizzard dogs, finally realising they can't survive in korea without harmony between them and kespa.
lmao, they never said they wanted to kill kespa.
If you think that is "lmao", the same can be said with kespa.
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On May 10 2011 14:05 konadora wrote: lmao blizzard dogs, finally realising they can't survive in korea without harmony between them and kespa.
you mean the harmony between them and dogspa(referring to that comic that came out last month)
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On May 10 2011 13:59 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 13:50 jayGroove wrote:On May 10 2011 13:37 Milkis wrote:On May 10 2011 13:19 jayGroove wrote: After I read this thread, I checked Korean article from TIG and it seems that some korean presses wrote the article based on unofficial source, so called "rumor". And everybody is saying about what is not actually happening.
The actual fact is forth court "Defense date" is delayed. After that, none of these things is just "rumor". Please, let's discuss about this after when Blizzard hold a press conference and finally made an IP agreement with Kespa.
Once again, KeSPA and Blizzard DIDN'T reach an agreement. It's just guessing based on unofficial source. Are you sure? Just because Thisisgame hasn't reported on it, it's only a rumor? It's true that it's not the best source, but the point is that the story adds up with previous stories and bits and pieces that were written about. We will see though, but it looks very likely at this point. How can you judge the fact based on "알려진 바에 따르면", in english "according to as it is known "? I don't see any reasonable fact behind the article from Daily sports (일간스포츠 in English). Because the whole article was written by unknown source. Maybe this article will prove what is true or not in the future. But I would say it's a little bit early to write the title like "KeSPA and Blizzard reach an agreement" for now. There are several sources that refer to some of the previous incidents (ie: Blizzard contacting KeSPA), and that's not just DES. Secondly, the quotation from the chairman of KeSPA also makes it likely I think it's pretty safe to conclude simply due to the fact that it would definitely have been contradicted by now, also. It's just that the stories add up that leads me to believe that it's a high probability of certainty.
I think that you're heavily judging that fact based on Kespa chairman or Kespa side. The fact is none of these sources you mentioned contains any certain word or information from Blizzard. If one of the guys from Blizzard gives a comment on this IP agreement, I would be highly convinced.
And the previous incidents, as you might know, since last year when the negotiation broke up, Kespa always kept saying that we are still trying to negotiate Blizzard. So the negotiation process might be undergoing but still, the agreement is not yet finalized.
Even the "Blizzard contacts KeSPA to mediate between OGN/MBC" part from DES, the article is about critical situation of Blizzard based on "according to as it is known source" and Blizzard didn't give any comments about DES guessing or rumor. I don't know why you give much credits for this. Also, the Korean title of that article is very emotional. It's like "The Crisis of Blizzard, and K.O. by Korean E-sports"
Riot Games part is also a full of guessing by DES. The sentence is written like "It seems that Riot Games might hire a crucial employee from Blizzard Korea"
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On May 10 2011 14:28 jayGroove wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 13:59 Milkis wrote:On May 10 2011 13:50 jayGroove wrote:On May 10 2011 13:37 Milkis wrote:On May 10 2011 13:19 jayGroove wrote: After I read this thread, I checked Korean article from TIG and it seems that some korean presses wrote the article based on unofficial source, so called "rumor". And everybody is saying about what is not actually happening.
The actual fact is forth court "Defense date" is delayed. After that, none of these things is just "rumor". Please, let's discuss about this after when Blizzard hold a press conference and finally made an IP agreement with Kespa.
Once again, KeSPA and Blizzard DIDN'T reach an agreement. It's just guessing based on unofficial source. Are you sure? Just because Thisisgame hasn't reported on it, it's only a rumor? It's true that it's not the best source, but the point is that the story adds up with previous stories and bits and pieces that were written about. We will see though, but it looks very likely at this point. How can you judge the fact based on "알려진 바에 따르면", in english "according to as it is known "? I don't see any reasonable fact behind the article from Daily sports (일간스포츠 in English). Because the whole article was written by unknown source. Maybe this article will prove what is true or not in the future. But I would say it's a little bit early to write the title like "KeSPA and Blizzard reach an agreement" for now. There are several sources that refer to some of the previous incidents (ie: Blizzard contacting KeSPA), and that's not just DES. Secondly, the quotation from the chairman of KeSPA also makes it likely I think it's pretty safe to conclude simply due to the fact that it would definitely have been contradicted by now, also. It's just that the stories add up that leads me to believe that it's a high probability of certainty. Even the "Blizzard contacts KeSPA to mediate between OGN/MBC" part from DES, the article is about critical situation of Blizzard based on "according to as it is known source" and Blizzard didn't give any comments about DES guessing or rumor. I don't why you give much credits for this. Also, the Korean title of that article is very emotional. It's like "The Crisis of Blizzard, and K.O. by Korean E-sports"
There are other sources that report the same thing, or else I would have just completely ignored it.
Anyway, KeSPA to be honest has been a lot more frank about the situation than Blizzard throughout the entire thing, which is why I don't need Blizzard's confirmation. But yeah, we will see.
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Best news I've seen on TL in a long time, and that's really saying something.
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On May 10 2011 14:30 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 14:28 jayGroove wrote:On May 10 2011 13:59 Milkis wrote:On May 10 2011 13:50 jayGroove wrote:On May 10 2011 13:37 Milkis wrote:On May 10 2011 13:19 jayGroove wrote: After I read this thread, I checked Korean article from TIG and it seems that some korean presses wrote the article based on unofficial source, so called "rumor". And everybody is saying about what is not actually happening.
The actual fact is forth court "Defense date" is delayed. After that, none of these things is just "rumor". Please, let's discuss about this after when Blizzard hold a press conference and finally made an IP agreement with Kespa.
Once again, KeSPA and Blizzard DIDN'T reach an agreement. It's just guessing based on unofficial source. Are you sure? Just because Thisisgame hasn't reported on it, it's only a rumor? It's true that it's not the best source, but the point is that the story adds up with previous stories and bits and pieces that were written about. We will see though, but it looks very likely at this point. How can you judge the fact based on "알려진 바에 따르면", in english "according to as it is known "? I don't see any reasonable fact behind the article from Daily sports (일간스포츠 in English). Because the whole article was written by unknown source. Maybe this article will prove what is true or not in the future. But I would say it's a little bit early to write the title like "KeSPA and Blizzard reach an agreement" for now. There are several sources that refer to some of the previous incidents (ie: Blizzard contacting KeSPA), and that's not just DES. Secondly, the quotation from the chairman of KeSPA also makes it likely I think it's pretty safe to conclude simply due to the fact that it would definitely have been contradicted by now, also. It's just that the stories add up that leads me to believe that it's a high probability of certainty. Even the "Blizzard contacts KeSPA to mediate between OGN/MBC" part from DES, the article is about critical situation of Blizzard based on "according to as it is known source" and Blizzard didn't give any comments about DES guessing or rumor. I don't why you give much credits for this. Also, the Korean title of that article is very emotional. It's like "The Crisis of Blizzard, and K.O. by Korean E-sports" There are other sources that report the same thing, or else I would have just completely ignored it. Anyway, KeSPA to be honest has been a lot more frank about the situation than Blizzard throughout the entire thing, which is why I don't need Blizzard's confirmation. But yeah, we will see.
That's regretful. Blizzard and Kespa situation is now working like politics.
If you judge the fact based on Kespa-biased information and write the title like "Blizzard and Kespa reach agreement", you would lead many people to believe Blizzard and Kespa successfully reach IP Agreement. But the truth is it's still not yet finalized.
I strongly suggest that you should add "Rumor" or "?" on the title.
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On May 10 2011 14:43 jayGroove wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2011 14:30 Milkis wrote:On May 10 2011 14:28 jayGroove wrote:On May 10 2011 13:59 Milkis wrote:On May 10 2011 13:50 jayGroove wrote:On May 10 2011 13:37 Milkis wrote:On May 10 2011 13:19 jayGroove wrote: After I read this thread, I checked Korean article from TIG and it seems that some korean presses wrote the article based on unofficial source, so called "rumor". And everybody is saying about what is not actually happening.
The actual fact is forth court "Defense date" is delayed. After that, none of these things is just "rumor". Please, let's discuss about this after when Blizzard hold a press conference and finally made an IP agreement with Kespa.
Once again, KeSPA and Blizzard DIDN'T reach an agreement. It's just guessing based on unofficial source. Are you sure? Just because Thisisgame hasn't reported on it, it's only a rumor? It's true that it's not the best source, but the point is that the story adds up with previous stories and bits and pieces that were written about. We will see though, but it looks very likely at this point. How can you judge the fact based on "알려진 바에 따르면", in english "according to as it is known "? I don't see any reasonable fact behind the article from Daily sports (일간스포츠 in English). Because the whole article was written by unknown source. Maybe this article will prove what is true or not in the future. But I would say it's a little bit early to write the title like "KeSPA and Blizzard reach an agreement" for now. There are several sources that refer to some of the previous incidents (ie: Blizzard contacting KeSPA), and that's not just DES. Secondly, the quotation from the chairman of KeSPA also makes it likely I think it's pretty safe to conclude simply due to the fact that it would definitely have been contradicted by now, also. It's just that the stories add up that leads me to believe that it's a high probability of certainty. Even the "Blizzard contacts KeSPA to mediate between OGN/MBC" part from DES, the article is about critical situation of Blizzard based on "according to as it is known source" and Blizzard didn't give any comments about DES guessing or rumor. I don't why you give much credits for this. Also, the Korean title of that article is very emotional. It's like "The Crisis of Blizzard, and K.O. by Korean E-sports" There are other sources that report the same thing, or else I would have just completely ignored it. Anyway, KeSPA to be honest has been a lot more frank about the situation than Blizzard throughout the entire thing, which is why I don't need Blizzard's confirmation. But yeah, we will see. That's regretful. Blizzard and Kespa situation is now working like politics. If you judge the fact based on Kespa-biased information and write the title like "Blizzard and Kespa reach agreement", you would lead many people to believe Blizzard and Kespa successfully reach IP Agreement. But the truth is it's still not yet finalized. I strongly suggest that you should add "Rumor" or "?" on the title.
If you read what I posted I imply that is the case.
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I'm so happy to see this finally start to settle. Long live Broodwar, long live SC2, long live e-sports.
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I don't know what future KeSPA has in the future of Starcraft outside of Brood War. Putting legal issues aside, it seems to me that in general, pro gaming teams in SC2 enjoy the latitude the have with regards to how they operate without the long shadow of KeSPA influencing them. Moving forward, I feel that KeSPA would have to make some serious changes internally and practically reform itself it wants to define a position in Starcraft2.
Although I think they will currently just focus on pushing Brood War as hard and as long as it is profitable, but from a business perspective, KeSPA has to be considering the global implications SC2 currently has to offer over Brood War.
I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard lets up on Brood War licensing with regards to KeSPA since they now have situated themselves quite firmly in the development of SC2, so if KeSPA were to continue the SC2 legacy, they would have to come to Blizzard and Gretech now without any real alternative.
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