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Falling
Canada11605 Posts
Well done Sherlock/Freud. You've successfully deduced her personality. I can kinda understand the outcry on her accent, but this: Digging deeper, I know why she bothers so many of us here. is getting ridiculous.It's called confirmation bias. Leave it at the accent, speed, and knowledge- everything else, you're reaching. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
It's not hugely relevant to her casting, though. | ||
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hoor3x
United States100 Posts
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NEWater
Singapore178 Posts
On February 20 2011 05:59 hoor3x wrote: i just watched an old DOTA cast where she was texting the whole time and made the other guy do all the work, when she did talk what i could understand was irrelevant. i was really hoping torch would get the job. Yes, you're on the money. I was working at this event listed here: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=181608 She was supposed to cast the SC2 games later in the night, but she ended up chatting Tobi up and disappeared along with he and another HON caster. -1 for professionalism to be honest. | ||
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monXikk
Poland742 Posts
But then I saw this... Kelly you doin' it wrong. | ||
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
Let's see how Chiltosis goes. | ||
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stfn
United States53 Posts
On February 20 2011 07:08 Froadac wrote: Lol. Even chill couldn't resist to ding her. Let's see how Chiltosis goes. What did chill say about KellyMilkies? | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
on the stream chill said "And now with me is Tl's FAVORITE GOM CASTER (sarcasm) KellyMilkies!!" Awkward silence | ||
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jazzbassmatt
United States566 Posts
On February 20 2011 05:42 Dfgj wrote: The internet loves to analyze people, but in this case, I can't actually disagree with most of that post. It's not hugely relevant to her casting, though. yeah I agree...I mean I've heard people call day9 narcissistic and things like that. And sure, while we can't judge the core personality of anybody through the net, even if we could, I don't think it would really matter. Personality aside, kelly is mediocre if not just flat out bad at many somewhat objective important aspects of casting: most importantly, game knowledge/analysis and voice quality/clarity. And beyond that, I think she does lack a certain amount of professionalism that Tasteless and Artosis each have, despite the fact that they joke around a lot. And, while I'm not sure how to measure this, she doesn't seem to add much to the excitement of the game, which is probably the whole point of casting anyways. For example, even though I don't understand Korean, watching bw matches with korean casters and hearing them talk so energetically throughout the whole thing still can make the match very exciting, even though I don't know what they're saying. With kelly, I can't really understand what she's saying AND she makes me bored. | ||
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azhang
United States178 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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zenyu
United States74 Posts
On February 19 2011 21:32 z00t wrote: Considering that it seems like few people in GOM speak English, Tastosis must have had a hand in choosing Kellymilkies. If they believe she's up for the task, I expect that she'll deliver and give us good commentary  . Putting words in others mouths now? Just because it "seems like few people at GOM speak English"..that Tasteless and Artosis had a hand in it and believe she is up for the task? You have any sources or are you just making stuff up? | ||
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zenyu
United States74 Posts
On February 20 2011 03:22 Xeris wrote: How can you complain to someone about their accent? It's not like people can change their voice, lol. "YO, FIX YOUR ACCENT!" is the dumbest criticism ever. oo~ Here accent is not the problem. The fact that 9 out of 10 people can't understand the words that come out of her mouth is the problem. | ||
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stfn
United States53 Posts
On February 20 2011 08:20 zenyu wrote: Here accent is not the problem. The fact that 9 out of 10 people can't understand the words that come out of her mouth is the problem. People can change their voice. People can fix their accent. Though the complaint is that her words are unintelligible. | ||
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zenyu
United States74 Posts
On February 20 2011 08:22 stfn wrote: People can change their voice. People can fix their accent. Though the complaint is that her words are unintelligible. Lots of people have accents, but most of us understand them. What I'm saying is I don't think it's the accent that is the problem, I think she has a speech impediment. She twists the sounds of her words adding r sounds and w sounds sort of like Elmer Fudd. Plus lots of words are just plain mispronounciations...for example, she pronounces "barracks" as "burrAX". | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On February 20 2011 05:36 Falling wrote: @prairieoys7er Well done Sherlock/Freud. You've successfully deduced her personality. I can kinda understand the outcry on her accent, but this: is getting ridiculous. It's called confirmation bias. Leave it at the accent, speed, and knowledge- everything else, you're reaching. While I do agree with most of his points, I don't think we'd be discussing it if she were male. A lot of commentators are arrogant pricks sometimes and we let it slide, because they're male. I guess we just don't like seeing a girl act as masculine as Kelly does. So yeah, all of that stuff should be set aside, and we should judge her purely on her casting. Which is horrible. But let's please not bring personal stuff into the discussion, because that really does validate the claim of trolling. | ||
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zenyu
United States74 Posts
On February 20 2011 08:36 Cel.erity wrote: While I do agree with most of his points, I don't think we'd be discussing it if she were male. . B.S. If you put a guy up there who can't talk (properly...or UNDERSTANDABLY), then he would get roasted in the exact same way. | ||
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CooDu
Australia899 Posts
On February 20 2011 03:43 enzym wrote: It was first brought up back in the 100 page thread. troll haters 1 haters 2 Thanks for that, couldn't find the original source. As other people have mentioned, coming across as arrogant towards the main community website of foreign SC2 doesn't look good. But all will be revealed in glorious triumph or failure tomorrow night. At any rate, the quality of the games we get to watch I'm sure is still guaranteed to be top notch.  | ||
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Drock
United States305 Posts
On February 20 2011 08:36 Cel.erity wrote: While I do agree with most of his points, I don't think we'd be discussing it if she were male. A lot of commentators are arrogant pricks sometimes and we let it slide, because they're male. I guess we just don't like seeing a girl act as masculine as Kelly does. So yeah, all of that stuff should be set aside, and we should judge her purely on her casting. Which is horrible. But let's please not bring personal stuff into the discussion, because that really does validate the claim of trolling. I don't think anyone here cares about her arrogance or not (I didn't really notice it). But her being female really has nothing to do with it. If a male was hired who casted the same exact way that Kelly does, everyone would be just as upset about it. I agree with you, she is just a terrible caster, and the fact that she is posting negative things about the TL community calling everyone trolls and haters is not helping her at all. That comes with the territory and you have to learn to ignore it just like most pro gamers do. Most of the guys on Team Liquid don't even read the threads that have to do with a tournament they played in (at least that's what they said on State of the Game). She's no Idra, she can't be a dick to people and still be loved, because Idra is one of the best at what he does, Kelly clearly is not. | ||
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zenyu
United States74 Posts
On February 20 2011 08:52 Drock wrote: I don't think anyone here cares about her arrogance or not (I didn't really notice it). But her being female really has nothing to do with it. If a male was hired who casted the same exact way that Kelly does, everyone would be just as upset about it. I agree with you, she is just a terrible caster, and the fact that she is posting negative things about the TL community calling everyone trolls and haters is not helping her at all. That comes with the territory and you have to learn to ignore it just like most pro gamers do. Most of the guys on Team Liquid don't even read the threads that have to do with a tournament they played in (at least that's what they said on State of the Game). She's no Idra, she can't be a dick to people and still be loved, because Idra is one of the best at what he does, Kelly clearly is not. Yeah she pretty much called the whole TL community trolls because from what I've read, the majority of the TL community agrees she is hard to understand and thus a bad choice. (the ones who don't think she is a bad choice are very rare and they don't really seem to defend her much.) | ||
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