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oRacLeGosu
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 19:29:55
February 17 2011 19:25 GMT
#521
I just really hope that the scenes will unite at a point. I really don't care where the scene is situated, as long as the skill is going the same rate for everyone, and that we see a lot of tournaments with the best from the east and west. There is no doubt that the very top koreans are miles ahead of most westerners.. only a few can play close to balanced games with the top koreans. All the korean teams benefit from playing with these players, so I really hope the western scene can focus on spreading skill, and really work as a team to elevate hard work and serious gaming.
I think we have to realise that the base skill drops very fast after a few names have been added inot account. With only a few being at the very top level, spreding the skill needs to be adressed hard core imo. If not, the koreans will be to far ahead. This period of working up the scene will be crucial. I think the GLSTL has shown how fast the level is growing is Korea.. and it needs to be used as a resource in some way.
Do not get me wrong..I love what is being done in the west now, but i think we have to see some really nice deals with airlines in order to send people back and fourth
a.k.a. [iNF]cALLe - member of TL since around 2002..account dead.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
February 17 2011 20:24 GMT
#522
As soon as e-sports gets big in other countries you will have Korean players playing the US/non Korean tournaments as well (you cant compare SC2 to BW here, it will be more like Warcraft 3). So I guess it's more about being stuck in Korea with the other EG guys not coming rather than increasing price moneys.
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Beez
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada18 Posts
February 17 2011 21:51 GMT
#523
what about IMBALANCED!
ExoD
Profile Joined December 2010
United States37 Posts
February 17 2011 22:01 GMT
#524
he got owned in GSL so he decided to leave korea lol.

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HyPeRcAiNe
Profile Joined October 2010
13 Posts
February 17 2011 23:13 GMT
#525
I don't get why people are so happy about this? I for one am really gunna miss Idra in GSL. He was like, THE GUY I rooted for.


Just aint gunna be the same without him :\
TheSublime
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada13 Posts
February 17 2011 23:41 GMT
#526
I have a little feeling that he's coming back for incontrol's event that he keeps hyping.
Ecnerwal
Profile Joined August 2009
Singapore43 Posts
February 17 2011 23:59 GMT
#527
lol great news although i may have lost all motivation to watch the GSL anymore. cant wait for western esports to explode.
Sreypech
Profile Joined March 2010
United States28 Posts
February 18 2011 00:02 GMT
#528
I wonder how much of this is EG wanting him back and how much he actually wants to go back. I thought I remembered him talking about people not being in Korean being unable to keep up. It seems odd that he had the sole choice to come back.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 18 2011 00:23 GMT
#529
On February 18 2011 08:13 HyPeRcAiNe wrote:
I don't get why people are so happy about this? I for one am really gunna miss Idra in GSL. He was like, THE GUY I rooted for.


Just aint gunna be the same without him :\


Well I do agree that with him leaving (and possibly the liquid guys to follow if North America and Europe become better options for them) the GSL will be less and less exciting to watch, but at the same time having many big names playing in large North America tournaments means esports may really take off from here on out... which would obviously be huge. I think that would be much more amazing than simply seeing him play in the GSL.
Hawk2
Profile Joined August 2010
United States229 Posts
February 18 2011 00:47 GMT
#530
I suppose this means more of his replays will be released as he is now eligible for non-korean tournaments. So great for me and any other zergs out there.
Starcraftmazter
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia71 Posts
February 18 2011 00:52 GMT
#531
It is interesting that he does this just after GSL introduces the new maps. Maybe he did it because there is little left for him to whine about? Sorry not being a troll or anything...but I wonder if the American tournaments are going to use the new GSL maps? I would guess not.

So why give up on the GSL when he is playing so well, just before he can play on the new maps? I mean, I would be so damn thrilled to be a zerg trying out those maps for the first time.

Also, wasn't EG going to set up a house in Korea?
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
February 18 2011 01:16 GMT
#532
On February 18 2011 09:52 Starcraftmazter wrote:
It is interesting that he does this just after GSL introduces the new maps. Maybe he did it because there is little left for him to whine about? Sorry not being a troll or anything...but I wonder if the American tournaments are going to use the new GSL maps? I would guess not.

So why give up on the GSL when he is playing so well, just before he can play on the new maps? I mean, I would be so damn thrilled to be a zerg trying out those maps for the first time.

Also, wasn't EG going to set up a house in Korea?


You haven't listened to the interview, have you?
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Starcraftmazter
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia71 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 01:41:40
February 18 2011 01:16 GMT
#533
On February 18 2011 10:16 Corrupted wrote:
You haven't listened to the interview, have you?


No not yet, I need to get home before watching it.

I'm extremely disappointed though, I really wanted to see him in this next GSL. So long as he would not meet Nestea, he could have gone all the way.
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
February 18 2011 02:17 GMT
#534
And the plot thickens.... Best of luck to Idra and EG, I hope they make a positive impact on western E-sports.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#535
On February 18 2011 07:01 ExoD wrote:
he got owned in GSL so he decided to leave korea lol.

User was warned for this post


As much as I felt this is rude and insensitive, I do believe he is right about this. It's like if you are attending Harvard, then all of a sudden you drop out and go to some no-name community college instead.

Of course, you may argue that the no-name community college may one day become a top school, but that's a bit far-stretched right now.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
February 18 2011 03:05 GMT
#536
On February 18 2011 11:54 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 07:01 ExoD wrote:
he got owned in GSL so he decided to leave korea lol.

User was warned for this post


As much as I felt this is rude and insensitive, I do believe he is right about this. It's like if you are attending Harvard, then all of a sudden you drop out and go to some no-name community college instead.

Of course, you may argue that the no-name community college may one day become a top school, but that's a bit far-stretched right now.


That would make sense if he kept doing shittier every season, but Idra has been consistently placing better in the GSL. Ro32, Ro16, Ro8 so far in that order if I'm not mistaken. If he was getting owned, he wouldn't have made it to the Ro8 which is already a feat in itself.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
February 18 2011 04:20 GMT
#537
Why isn't anybody concerned that he leaves just before the next GSL? I think that is a pretty bad attitude towards a tournament series that is so professionally run. The groups were drawn and everything was set up and than he just leaves suddenly (just because of the $$??) and GOM has to give def-wins in his group. That`s not good for e-sports.
debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
February 18 2011 04:33 GMT
#538
On February 18 2011 13:20 00Visor wrote:
Why isn't anybody concerned that he leaves just before the next GSL? I think that is a pretty bad attitude towards a tournament series that is so professionally run. The groups were drawn and everything was set up and than he just leaves suddenly (just because of the $$??) and GOM has to give def-wins in his group. That`s not good for e-sports.


IdrA said in SotG that Gom already knew that he was going to leave even before the group drawn, and then even asked him to go and do the group drawn just for the sake of it. The thing is, is not like he left in the middle of the tournament, the GSL is almost always happenning, so any period where you can leave without making any harm is very short.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 18 2011 04:36 GMT
#539
On February 18 2011 12:05 Joementum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 11:54 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 18 2011 07:01 ExoD wrote:
he got owned in GSL so he decided to leave korea lol.

User was warned for this post


As much as I felt this is rude and insensitive, I do believe he is right about this. It's like if you are attending Harvard, then all of a sudden you drop out and go to some no-name community college instead.

Of course, you may argue that the no-name community college may one day become a top school, but that's a bit far-stretched right now.


That would make sense if he kept doing shittier every season, but Idra has been consistently placing better in the GSL. Ro32, Ro16, Ro8 so far in that order if I'm not mistaken. If he was getting owned, he wouldn't have made it to the Ro8 which is already a feat in itself.


But he still get owned. Ro8 is not that great, either. It's like which is better, getting 30% on a test or 40%.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
originalpredator
Profile Joined October 2010
United States15 Posts
February 18 2011 05:54 GMT
#540
Round of 8 means he is in the top 8 players (arguably) in the entire world. You compare this to getting an F on a test?

That's like saying Lebron James is getting "owned" because he isn't Michael Jordan. What kind of retarded logic is that?
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