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leser
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia239 Posts
February 17 2011 07:30 GMT
#501
Having Idra back in the US can only help spread the skill instead of condensing it all to korea. I am glad he decided to move back, and I hope his presence in the USA helps raise the skill of sc2 in the western world. Also, I hope we see him in all the "little" tournaments that are streamed on a regular basis!
lulz
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
February 17 2011 08:26 GMT
#502
For me from europe is the same if Idra is in Korea or USA. But somehow i`m happier this way. Though i lost some interest in GSL with Idra returning, maybe Huk and Ret if they move in code S will cheer my attention on GSL again.

Anyhow i love to see NA and Europe growing day by day in Esports. The first real confrontation between the 3 continents will be at TSL3. Best from all over the world. The winner will be some non korean, you`ll see. There is a lot of potential in EU-NA, a lot of good players.

Anyhow, MLG, dreamhack any many other will be more exciting now with Idra back. Gl dude
Maru | Life | herO
Casta
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark234 Posts
February 17 2011 09:23 GMT
#503
On February 17 2011 10:03 Char711 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 09:51 nemahsys wrote:
On February 17 2011 08:51 stalefish wrote:
On February 17 2011 08:38 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
I'm sure Idra's leaving because he's got access to a bigger information set. Even just now the cash prospects are probably better in the US anyway, but if NASL happens, then the guy's just gonna rake in cash for a few monthes at least - especially with HuK out in Korea, there's not that many North Americans who could challenge him heads-on.

To be honest HuK is not at all the only foreigner who can challenge Idra, while he is a strong player I think alot of people think he is better than he is because he won the first MLG.

There are many people in NA right now who can easily compete on the same level as Idra.



can you name some of these players in NA who can "easily" compete with Idra? Cause I cant think of any myself.

The difference in context between "easily compete on the same level as Idra" and "can 'easily' compete with Idra" is incredibly important.

Many who can play at such a high level? Yes, there are quite a few who are up at that skill tier.

Many who can easily compete against IdrA? No, that's ridiculous. At such a high level you just can't use "easily compete" since it's an oxymoron.

So, minus your disingenuous interpretation, I'd have to agree with the other gentleman.


You can't really determine skill on the proscene without results to back it up.

Besides Jinro it is pretty hard to find any other western player that can claim to be around the same level.
SC2Soundless
Profile Joined February 2011
United States7 Posts
February 17 2011 10:01 GMT
#504
he was sick of artosis bugging him to agree that protoss is OP! lol jkjk.
he left because Zerg is UP and why play GSL if u cant win! lol jkjk.
im serious, im just playing around.
gogo fighting Idra. welcome back home, enjoy all the ice and toilet paper. come back home, speak some english, and hit im going to get masters rank 1 to hopefully play you.
it'd be an honor, gl hf ggl dd.
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VenomBRA
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands168 Posts
February 17 2011 10:31 GMT
#505
Damn. GSL won't be the same without him. I hope the move is good for him carreer/moneywise and wish him all the best. IdrA fighting!!!
"We got a lot of nothing to say"
ABOOMAN
Profile Joined October 2010
Burma156 Posts
February 17 2011 10:51 GMT
#506
best case scenario would be Idra kicking ass in US tourneys, practicing a ton with his teammates, then returning to korea to take down gsl (after a patch lol)
lolo
Hageving
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden9 Posts
February 17 2011 13:05 GMT
#507
hope it's not because he gave up on winning a GSL
[Executor]
Profile Joined December 2010
Costa Rica35 Posts
February 17 2011 13:16 GMT
#508
He cant win the GSL IMO.

FOR AIUR!
ABOOMAN
Profile Joined October 2010
Burma156 Posts
February 17 2011 13:40 GMT
#509
any good player can win gsl, if you doubt that remember TSL_RAIN who took 2nd while being terrible but just super lucky
lolo
MisterPuppy
Profile Joined August 2010
161 Posts
February 17 2011 16:08 GMT
#510
he'll make a crapload more money in the us, not that surprising really
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
February 17 2011 16:33 GMT
#511
On February 17 2011 22:05 Hageving wrote:
hope it's not because he gave up on winning a GSL


That's probably it though, after Idra moved away from the CJ house he had to start paying his own bills and food which in turn takes money. Lots of it. So not placing at least in the ro8 every GSL it's gonna get hard to keep yourself under a roof.
Oldern
Profile Joined February 2011
Hungary21 Posts
February 17 2011 16:40 GMT
#512
I wish him good luck in all the EU/US tournaments from now on.
He did very well in GSL's, he kept on improving on every single GSL after the first. That is an achievement by itself.

By the way, will he continue to ladder in Korean servers?
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
February 17 2011 17:25 GMT
#513
On February 18 2011 01:33 HeIios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 22:05 Hageving wrote:
hope it's not because he gave up on winning a GSL


That's probably it though, after Idra moved away from the CJ house he had to start paying his own bills and food which in turn takes money. Lots of it. So not placing at least in the ro8 every GSL it's gonna get hard to keep yourself under a roof.


he actually stated b4 that eg pays for his housing and stuff in korea
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
February 17 2011 18:10 GMT
#514
I interpret this move as confirmation that the NASL is in deed real and will be happening within the coming months. Excellent news!
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
February 17 2011 18:22 GMT
#515
This is both bittersweet and exciting. Gonna miss seing Idra in the GSL but it's gonna be fun to see if his presence can elevate the US server (and possibly EU).

The biggest hurdle I see right now for non korean sc2 is that the ladders are so much worse. EU/US players need to start copying builds and developing standards of games based on trial and error rather than off beat wierd stuff.
Slayth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
February 17 2011 18:24 GMT
#516
Sad news that he basicly gave up on Korea
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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 17 2011 18:25 GMT
#517
On February 18 2011 03:22 StarBrift wrote:
This is both bittersweet and exciting. Gonna miss seing Idra in the GSL but it's gonna be fun to see if his presence can elevate the US server (and possibly EU).

The biggest hurdle I see right now for non korean sc2 is that the ladders are so much worse. EU/US players need to start copying builds and developing standards of games based on trial and error rather than off beat wierd stuff.


Furthermore, US and EU players would need to start living in team houses. I don't see this happening any time soon.
Don't mind me
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
February 17 2011 18:48 GMT
#518
On February 18 2011 03:25 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 03:22 StarBrift wrote:
This is both bittersweet and exciting. Gonna miss seing Idra in the GSL but it's gonna be fun to see if his presence can elevate the US server (and possibly EU).

The biggest hurdle I see right now for non korean sc2 is that the ladders are so much worse. EU/US players need to start copying builds and developing standards of games based on trial and error rather than off beat wierd stuff.


Furthermore, US and EU players would need to start living in team houses. I don't see this happening any time soon.

This is the problem more than anything else. Korean pro teams have a much more effective training system. At this point, korean teams (with the addition of team liquid) will continue to improve more rapidly than the west because their team houses being such a better training environment.
Sixotanaka
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia191 Posts
February 17 2011 19:17 GMT
#519
On February 18 2011 03:48 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 03:25 ptbl wrote:
On February 18 2011 03:22 StarBrift wrote:
This is both bittersweet and exciting. Gonna miss seing Idra in the GSL but it's gonna be fun to see if his presence can elevate the US server (and possibly EU).

The biggest hurdle I see right now for non korean sc2 is that the ladders are so much worse. EU/US players need to start copying builds and developing standards of games based on trial and error rather than off beat wierd stuff.


Furthermore, US and EU players would need to start living in team houses. I don't see this happening any time soon.

This is the problem more than anything else. Korean pro teams have a much more effective training system. At this point, korean teams (with the addition of team liquid) will continue to improve more rapidly than the west because their team houses being such a better training environment.


I think that if American teams set up American houses, it could be massively advantageous, and I think that it may be the next big step. After this of course. This is huge ^_^.
SecretA5DC
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)225 Posts
February 17 2011 19:20 GMT
#520
On February 17 2011 00:59 TopOgi wrote:
Well, Idra should have won against Jinro... Blizzard fixed all the stuff too late sadly. Unbelievable close spawn locations on Metalo and gay maps like Jungle Basin and Shakuras just made him lose. We have proof that Idra can beat the best player in the world MVP and how? By annihilating him on a disadvantaged map. He went to Korea to do one thing: win money but first and foremost improve his skill and we can certainly say he achieved that. He will now go back to the US competing in tournaments with similar and maybe greater prize pools than the GSL but having less skill level in them overall. Is this a great decision? Yes. All the top players will be travelling to the GSL for what? having less chacne to win the same amount of money offered in US/ EUROPE. Idra isnt scared of playing koreans or Jinro, its just that its not logical to do it anymore for the reasons stated above. Thats my opinion hope i didndt offend ne1 ><


Yeah cause Shakuras TvZ is disadvantaged for the Zerg. lmao

Sounds like a jilted fanboy imo
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