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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 26 2011 18:29 GMT
#41
On January 27 2011 03:25 jaiBing wrote:
is there really a silver mouse???


Not really. Or if there is one, I haven't heard of it. It's just a saying because of the whole gold mouse thing, and the fact that someone will get 3 silvers this upcoming finals.
Meh
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
January 26 2011 18:34 GMT
#42
OH man the Silver mouse is Real? hahah that sucks....

i'm so ready.
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 26 2011 18:41 GMT
#43
I want to show everyone some revolutionary TvP builds. It may be impossible to find a weakness to Stork's PvT, but I feel that him playing standard is in of itself a weakness.

Aka cheese.


I kept on winning silvers, but then I met Fantasy and I won a gold. So he's my lucky charm.
lolol please win stork.
Nehsb
Profile Joined May 2009
United States380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 18:57:29
January 26 2011 18:44 GMT
#44
Posting interviews with coach park and january, translated by infinitestory but apparently his school internet blocks tl

[image loading]


Thoughts on this year's final at Gwangju?
▲ Actually, this time around, I've relegated OSL final prep to the assistant coaches, while I focus mostly on PL. This time, the finals are at Gwangju, and it's Fantasy's third final, so we must have him win. Within the team, we have to give him additional support. The venue is going to be Yeomju Gymnasium in Gwangju; we've played matches there before. This place is very well suited to Fantasy getting his first championship. Also, whether Fantasy wins or loses, I'll still consider sending him up for Proleague.
From the standpoint of a head coach, how do you evaluate Stork?
▲ First off, he's a very different player than our Bisu or Best. Stork is very experienced and works very hard; we felt he was this type of player last time Fantasy played him in a final. Stork's great at shutting down all of his opponent's prepared strategies, it's really incredible. On top of that, the maps favor him this time, so he won't have so much of an uphill struggle. But we'll be working hard to find winning methods, so that Stork won't be able to top Fantasy.
And a quick evaluation of Fantasy?
▲ Out of our team's players, Fantasy is the most remarkable. He's very hardworking, and with the sheer force of his concentration he can slowly chip away at his weaknesses. When watching Fantasy, I always think, “Why does this kind of player not have a championship already?” This time, he'll definitely win.
Lastly, a bit of your own thoughts?
▲ I think Fantasy's mech play is the strongest right now, especially in terms of TvP. I think Fantasy is the strongest. Though I don't know how good Stork's PvP or PvZ are, his PvT is as weak as before right now. Fantasy definitely has a chance to earn the gold.
src: http://playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=221605&extra=page=1

JANUARY

Your birthplace is [T/N全罗道, somewhere in Gwangju?], thoughts on playing the final in Gwangju?
▲ I was born in Gwangju and I'm familiar with it, but that's about it. There's another boon, though: that day is my father's birthday. Originally, I would have had no time to see him, but with this new schedule, I can now visit home, which is great.
How is preparation coming along?
▲ Stork is usually very eager for his matches. Even on rest days, he'll be working hard. Skipping PL today wasn't Stork's idea, it was my choice. Last time, when we lost, people said we were Songbyung KHAN. So this time, since I didn't want to hear any more of that, I let Stork stay back to rile up the rest of the team. It feels like we actually don't do enough for Stork, and I feel sorry about that. Even though we all want to help Stork, we don't really know how best to assist him.
Two days after the final, you'll be facing off against SKT.
▲ I think that players like Stork who don't mind map or matchup are few and far between. So regular training goes very smoothly for him. I'm very confident in Stork. As long as his condition is good, when we play SKT two days after, there is a definite opportunity for Stork to play.

A quick evaluation of Stork?
▲ Stork's kept up his strength for very long, especially in PvT, where Stork can be called the master of strategy and tactics. Fantasy is also a man of many tactics, but Stork practices more, so we won't give Fantasy a chance to out-strategize us. Our team's already done a solid job analyzing the maps and opponent, so as long as Stork doesn't choke, he'll win.
src: http://playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=221600&extra=page=1
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
January 26 2011 18:45 GMT
#45
On January 27 2011 01:25 baubo wrote:
Q: So here we have a repeat of Incruit OSL. This is actually the first re-match of an OSL finals. What do you think? (T/N: I'm suprised at this statement. Thought there'd be some Jaedong v Flash/Yellow v Boxer OSL rematches...)
A: I feel this will be an interesting match. I kept on winning silvers, but then I met Fantasy and I won a gold. So he's my lucky charm.


Damn. Cold as ice.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
January 26 2011 18:46 GMT
#46
There's no need for a revolutionary TvP build, have oov and Fantasy not watched Flash play TvP at all? We don't need new builds you just need to play better and have better decision making. I think played at a highest level T even has the advantage regardless maps, the 200/200 push power is crazy and cleaning up recalls looks much easier than it ever used to be. Also remember the 100 turrets at bases too.

Make a UMS of a typical lategame situation with one base behind and a push ready to go against a fulll toss army with arbiters, then repetitively play it against Bisu/Best until you win all the time. Or switch arbs for carriers and take away a base. Although i would like to see some early game heavy multitask dropping of Stork like Hiya did in that one game and like Flash Vs Best on Fortress (admittedly both times with map advantage). Seems like something he would try.
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
January 26 2011 18:50 GMT
#47
Oh god, so much going on that day. My head asplode.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
January 26 2011 19:23 GMT
#48
FUCK IM HYPED!

Great translation for Stork! Lucky Charm eh, LOL!
SONG BYUNG GOO hwaiting!!!
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
January 26 2011 19:26 GMT
#49
Lastly, a bit of your own thoughts?
▲ I think Fantasy's mech play is the strongest right now, especially in terms of TvP. I think Fantasy is the strongest. Though I don't know how good Stork's PvP or PvZ are, his PvT is as weak as before right now. Fantasy definitely has a chance to earn the gold.


Yea, 68% is terribly weak, no chance for Stork.

In all seriousness what does he mean, just that Stork isn't any better than last time the two played or what? He can't seriously be implying Stork has mediocre PvT...
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#50
On January 27 2011 04:26 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
Lastly, a bit of your own thoughts?
▲ I think Fantasy's mech play is the strongest right now, especially in terms of TvP. I think Fantasy is the strongest. Though I don't know how good Stork's PvP or PvZ are, his PvT is as weak as before right now. Fantasy definitely has a chance to earn the gold.


Yea, 68% is terribly weak, no chance for Stork.

In all seriousness what does he mean, just that Stork isn't any better than last time the two played or what? He can't seriously be implying Stork has mediocre PvT...

Stats doesn't really mean much. I think Stork has shown time and time again that his decision making vs Terran is pretty damn lackluster compared to the top PvTers. It's by far his most questionable MU in terms of actual gameplay.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 26 2011 19:40 GMT
#51
On January 27 2011 04:31 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 04:26 L_Master wrote:
Lastly, a bit of your own thoughts?
▲ I think Fantasy's mech play is the strongest right now, especially in terms of TvP. I think Fantasy is the strongest. Though I don't know how good Stork's PvP or PvZ are, his PvT is as weak as before right now. Fantasy definitely has a chance to earn the gold.


Yea, 68% is terribly weak, no chance for Stork.

In all seriousness what does he mean, just that Stork isn't any better than last time the two played or what? He can't seriously be implying Stork has mediocre PvT...

Stats doesn't really mean much. I think Stork has shown time and time again that his decision making vs Terran is pretty damn lackluster compared to the top PvTers. It's by far his most questionable MU in terms of actual gameplay.

Uh, I wouldn't question you there if you replaced "Stork" with "Bisu", but now I'm just really puzzled in how you can say that (if it's not sarcastic)
Writerptrk
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
January 26 2011 19:43 GMT
#52
Last time Fantasy and Stork played I rooted so hard for Stork, I felt really bad for the guy, he is a really good player and he really deserved a gold, this time though I'll be rooting for Fantasy. I don't know if he is the better player of the two, imo he is not, but this is his 3rd final and I wish he'd win, everyone who worked as hard as these two guys deserves a gold. With that being said, Flash will rape everything in his path next OSL and MSL.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 26 2011 19:48 GMT
#53
On January 27 2011 03:16 prototype. wrote:
I wish translators would stop adding their own touches to the translation. It's what I hate most when I watch anime. Just a personal preference though.


I can't speak for other translators, so this is only based on my opinion.

When translating between cultures, especially vastly different ones like the US and Korea, you must pick between translating literally, or what you believe would be the equivalent of the language being translated into. Specifically, trash-talking in western cultures that you just don't see in Asian countries.

So take Stork's interview. Make no mistake about it. It was as cocky an interview as you'll likely ever get from a progamer. Stork's oozing with confidence. I mean, what do you expect a player's attitude to be when he believes he can 3-0 his opponent? No matter how "respectfully" you say it, you're still looking down on your opponent. So really, is there any difference between "I think I will defeat him 3-0" and "I'm going to pwn that noob"? Yes, I took liberties in the translation. But there's no changing of facts. It just feels more natural this way.

Anyway, not saying whether my style would be correct or not. And I'm sorry you did not like it. But I do want to at least explain my thought process here.
Meh
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
January 26 2011 19:52 GMT
#54
On January 27 2011 04:26 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
Lastly, a bit of your own thoughts?
▲ I think Fantasy's mech play is the strongest right now, especially in terms of TvP. I think Fantasy is the strongest. Though I don't know how good Stork's PvP or PvZ are, his PvT is as weak as before right now. Fantasy definitely has a chance to earn the gold.


Yea, 68% is terribly weak, no chance for Stork.

In all seriousness what does he mean, just that Stork isn't any better than last time the two played or what? He can't seriously be implying Stork has mediocre PvT...

holy shit i knew stork was a god at PvT but i didnt know it was 68% career thats incredible. Best is incredibly talented at PvT as well but i think he is just really good at macro and can't play any other style while Stork is much more well rounded and crafty.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 26 2011 19:53 GMT
#55
On January 27 2011 04:40 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 04:31 Holgerius wrote:
On January 27 2011 04:26 L_Master wrote:
Lastly, a bit of your own thoughts?
▲ I think Fantasy's mech play is the strongest right now, especially in terms of TvP. I think Fantasy is the strongest. Though I don't know how good Stork's PvP or PvZ are, his PvT is as weak as before right now. Fantasy definitely has a chance to earn the gold.


Yea, 68% is terribly weak, no chance for Stork.

In all seriousness what does he mean, just that Stork isn't any better than last time the two played or what? He can't seriously be implying Stork has mediocre PvT...

Stats doesn't really mean much. I think Stork has shown time and time again that his decision making vs Terran is pretty damn lackluster compared to the top PvTers. It's by far his most questionable MU in terms of actual gameplay.

Uh, I wouldn't question you there if you replaced "Stork" with "Bisu", but now I'm just really puzzled in how you can say that (if it's not sarcastic)

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just testing if anyone is romanian enough to take such a ridiculous statement seriously. :D I think I was too obvious though, no one is gonna fall for it.

Stork is God in PvT.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
January 26 2011 19:53 GMT
#56
So who currently has a silver mouse other than Boxer?
lolbolt
Profile Joined November 2010
206 Posts
January 26 2011 20:00 GMT
#57
lol fantasy looks stoned, best of luck fantasy u will need it! >->
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3126 Posts
January 26 2011 20:00 GMT
#58
Torn who to root for. On one hand fantasy is one of my fave players. on the other having a toss win a starleuge might make some ppl stop bitching for a while.

So long as fanta doesnt lose a lead to carrier micro i will be satisfied.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Arkqn
Profile Joined August 2008
France589 Posts
January 26 2011 20:00 GMT
#59
The first time they met on the finals, the games were really good. I hope it'll be the same this time. So much bash talking from (P)Stork btw, if (T)Fantasy loses he will cry so much haha
Elena[PaiN]
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
January 26 2011 20:03 GMT
#60
On January 27 2011 05:00 Arkqn wrote:
The first time they met on the finals, the games were really good. I hope it'll be the same this time. So much bash talking from (P)Stork btw, if (T)Fantasy loses he will cry so much haha


he'll follow in boxer's footsteps and win the silver mouse
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