EPTOn January 23 2011 16:01 IdrA wrote:
you were saying?
you were saying?
This was the most perfect response for the nes tea games ever
IdrA on why he left so fast vs Jinro and more! - Page 27
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Truffy
United States95 Posts
This was the most perfect response for the nes tea games ever | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
On January 24 2011 14:05 United wrote: So...if Idra played terran he would have won the gsl? Most likely not, because he has not put much (more likely none) training into Terran. The Mechanics wouldn't quite fit, he wouldn't know the timings perfectly off by heart & intuition etc. | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On January 24 2011 15:19 Truffy wrote: This was the most perfect response for the nes tea games ever especially because there were no answers between them //tx | ||
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L0thar
987 Posts
On January 24 2011 22:12 PartyBiscuit wrote: I think he meant that if he had started out as T, he would've been much more successful (which I'd agree to some extent) You know Idra actually started as terran in beta and then changed to zerg? | ||
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HunterStarcraft
Canada249 Posts
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Bleb
Croatia278 Posts
If he was in genius' place he'd rage about protoss having to build cannons blindly while zerg can macro/take new base... (xel naga game) PROTOSS if he was in jinro's place he'd quit once those lings entered his base... (jungle basin game) TERAN I'm jet to see idra loose just because of bad map settings. this last session against jinro was far from perfect and most of his comments are about maps, mvp and how bad zergs are. some acknowledgement for miss controling lings and drones would be nice. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On January 24 2011 22:12 PartyBiscuit wrote: I think he meant that if he had started out as T, he would've been much more successful (which I'd agree to some extent) I hate these kind of arguments. I think it's a pretty cheap move by IdrA to insult Terran players day in day out "for playing that race" but not backing it up by switching and showing how much better he's doing with Terran. Truth is that IdrA knows Terran isn't suited for his style and that he'd probably not be any more succesful without the ability to play his turtle macro style. He also knows it wouldn't be as easy as he likes to pretend. Instead of encouraging his bold statements and quoting them as proof for imbalance, I think people should be a little bit more critical and request IdrA to show us the blatant Terran OP'ness himself. I have no doubt MVP would beat IdrA in a BO7 regardless of what race Idra chose to play. Also, isn´t it coincidental that both in BW and SC2 IdrA is playing the "underpowered" race, valiantly struggling against the "overpowered" races? | ||
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Chise
Japan507 Posts
On January 25 2011 04:10 Saechiis wrote: I hate these kind of arguments. I think it's a pretty cheap move by IdrA to insult Terran players day in day out "for playing that race" but not backing it up by switching and showing how much better he's doing with Terran. Truth is that IdrA knows Terran isn't suited for his style and that he'd probably not be any more succesful without the ability to play his turtle macro style. He also knows it wouldn't be as easy as he likes to pretend. Instead of encouraging his bold statements and quoting them as proof for imbalance, I think people should be a little bit more critical and request IdrA to show us the blatant Terran OP'ness himself. I have no doubt MVP would beat IdrA in a BO7 regardless of what race Idra chose to play. Also, isn´t it coincidental that both in BW and SC2 IdrA is playing the "underpowered" race, valiantly struggling against the "overpowered" races? IdrA is playing some off race (Protoss), as well as many other top Zergs at one point said they will/want to switch races and/or are training an off race. It's not as easy to switch races as you might think. If it was, I'm pretty sure we would see way less Zergs. | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
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Malminos
United States321 Posts
Just looking at it from a game design standpoint it doesn't make any sense why it should be this difficult for zerg and only zerg. I'm sure all it is, is that blizzard has some tricks up their sleeve in HOTS to hopefully help zerg deal with it, but as it is and im sure a lot of zergs will agree, close positions are overly stressful and punishing to zerg. Yes it's possible to deal with it, yes it's possible to play around it, but really zerg is undeniably the most dependant on the map out of all three races. So i agree with most of what idra said. | ||
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
On January 23 2011 16:01 IdrA wrote: you were saying? So glad you are still willing to call things what they are now that terran has had a few *minor* nerfs and most people want to pretend like it is balanced. <3 | ||
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
On January 25 2011 06:33 Malminos wrote: I dunno, i see a lot of naysayers claiming Idra to be a QQer, etc. Anyone who'se played zerg for an extended period of time knows the issue with maps he's talking about. Being in close positions or being forced to expand toward a terran or toss is the most difficult for zerg than any other race. Just looking at it from a game design standpoint it doesn't make any sense why it should be this difficult for zerg and only zerg. I'm sure all it is, is that blizzard has some tricks up their sleeve in HOTS to hopefully help zerg deal with it, but as it is and im sure a lot of zergs will agree, close positions are overly stressful and punishing to zerg. Yes it's possible to deal with it, yes it's possible to play around it, but really zerg is undeniably the most dependant on the map out of all three races. So i agree with most of what idra said. Yeah pretty much this, it is a shitty situation but the fact is we are not currently playing with the complete SC2 unit set. I really don't see the maps as the main problem though, the real problem is how weak/nonviable zerg early/mid game aggression is and short maps only make that more apparent but the maps are not the core problem. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On January 25 2011 03:21 L0thar wrote: You know Idra actually started as terran in beta and then changed to zerg? I don't believe he did? He started off as protoss in beta then changed to zerg, I don't believe he ever actually tried playing Terran regularly. | ||
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Polishcheese
Canada34 Posts
and how idrA only had bad maps? blizz needs to adress the maps. The game is quite balanced for the most part the maps are not Also scouting for zerg needs to be improved slightly as Idra stated on gosucoaching:coaches corner | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On January 25 2011 07:20 Polishcheese wrote: See how Nestea lost vs MVP and had DECENT(until JB) maps and how idrA only had bad maps? blizz needs to adress the maps. The game is quite balanced for the most part the maps are not Also scouting for zerg needs to be improved slightly as Idra stated on gosucoaching:coaches corner Imo Nestea just handled that situation poorly on Shakuras. I agree those positions are slightly imba for T, but Nestea literally had SO MUCH more shit he could have just counter attacked the natural of MVP's 2 base vs Nestea's 4base and rolled him. Actually slowpushing up that ramp into the main would have taken forever, and he should have been smarter and simply placed his tech structures further from the ramp, I think. Felt like his game to lose to me. I agree though, more than anything it's the maps rather than the race that's imbalanced atm. I'm not denying that the maps were huge. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
On January 25 2011 09:12 supersoft wrote: idra would not win a GSL as Terran. The BW-players that switched over that were better than him are still better and Terran wouldn't change anything. He is just not a better player than MVP, MKP and MC. Terran just doesn't suit Idra's style so yes he probably wouldn't win the gsl playing terran. | ||
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