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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 13 2011 08:31 GMT
#21
Dang, time to do this on NA ladder man ty for the tip
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kjetulf
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 08:32:02
January 13 2011 08:31 GMT
#22
Durr, let him do whatever he wants on ladder, who cares, right?
mrflakes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States713 Posts
January 13 2011 08:31 GMT
#23
On January 13 2011 17:29 IdrA wrote:
if he wants games decided by random chance he could just play the way he always does


Lol, that pretty much hits the nail on the head.
silencesc
Profile Joined July 2010
United States464 Posts
January 13 2011 08:32 GMT
#24
Why does this matter? Sure it might be "cheating the system" but it doesn't affect his GSL standing and ladder doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things anyway...

I'm sorry. This is at the very least hilariously eclectic, but I fail to see how it can affect his GSL performance.
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Fiercegore
Profile Joined July 2010
United States294 Posts
January 13 2011 08:33 GMT
#25
How do you play rock, paper, scissors over the internet?
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Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 13 2011 08:33 GMT
#26
rofl oh choya
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EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
January 13 2011 08:33 GMT
#27
On January 13 2011 17:29 IdrA wrote:
if he wants games decided by random chance he could just play the way he always does

haha greg back with the 1 liners.. Love it
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
January 13 2011 08:33 GMT
#28
How did they know what they person had?

Choya:... I got paper
Opp: ooh i got scissors.
Choya: bullshit you did you liar!

Isn't mmr supposed to stop this? I don't get how he's causing the point's differences. His mmr surely is at a point where he should gain and lose points equally.
戦いの中に答えはある
Magikarp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States32 Posts
January 13 2011 08:34 GMT
#29
I also have to ask why this would ever matter. These days ladder rating is basically a representation of how big your sc2-epeen is and has no effect on anything serious. Despite this, the fact that the coach commented suggests that maybe sponsors look at rating or something, because if it was one player doing something silly to inflate his rating I don't think anyone would care.
"Hit 'em with a splash attack."
Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
January 13 2011 08:35 GMT
#30
I think he was trying to be sarcastic and criticize SCII, claiming it's nothing more than rock-paper-scissors in his own way.
Not enough energy
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
January 13 2011 08:35 GMT
#31
is this thing a bug btw. I saw this happened to Tyler also when he will get +20 but only lose 2.

I thought thats because he has been inactive on ladder but afaik choya has been very active.
exarchrum
Profile Joined August 2010
United States491 Posts
January 13 2011 08:36 GMT
#32
A win rate of 50% won't get him very high on the ladder. Anyway it seems like he was just having some fun so let him.
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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
January 13 2011 08:36 GMT
#33
On January 13 2011 17:35 Eluadyl wrote:
I think he was trying to be sarcastic and criticize SCII, claiming it's nothing more than rock-paper-scissors in his own way.

You're reading way too much into it.
Kultfrisur
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany41 Posts
January 13 2011 08:37 GMT
#34
very many players are involved in this "scandal". For example every zerg who faces ZvZ on the korean ladder... Ban them all :D...

Btw the matchmaking should give you a 50% win rate, so does rock paper scissors. The games are independent and have expectation 1 ( if you change the points a bit ...). This means it"s a martingale. Therefore a fair game :D.
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
January 13 2011 08:37 GMT
#35
Why this is problem? Since when ladder means anything? wtf? Why would they say "sorry" for no reason, i dont get it.
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dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
January 13 2011 08:38 GMT
#36
Ladder Ranking based tournaments

blizzcon invitationals are run off ladder (huge prize pool + free tip)
upcoming GSL's have top of ladder tournaments
etc

Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
hiyo_bye
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States737 Posts
January 13 2011 08:38 GMT
#37
I remember seeing cella do this on stream once, was hilarious.

I approve.
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Cambam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States360 Posts
January 13 2011 08:40 GMT
#38
Just a quick and efficient way to get his displayed rating up to his hidden rating (MMR), because of the master leauge reset. And it looks like it worked, he is #1 on KR ladder at the moment.

It will stop working once his displayed rating reaches his hidden rating. Read Excalibur_Z's thread on how the ladder system works.

Here's a quick rundown:

Let's say he gets promoted to masters and reset to 2400 displayed rating. Meanwhile, we'll say his MMR is 3000. He plays a game against IMNestea who is also 2400 displayed, 3000 MMR (hypothetically).

IMNestea will appear favored to choya and choya will appear favored to IMNestea. This is because the favored system works by comparing your opponents HIDDEN rating to your DISPLAYED rating. Thus:

IMNestea's HIDDEN rating of 3000 > choya's DISPLAYED rating of 2400

and vice versa.

Everyone will be favored to choya (and thus give +20~ and -5~) until his displayed rating catches up to his hidden rating.

Hope that made sense. It's just choya's clever way of skyrocketing to the top of the ladder faster than everyone else. But like I said, it will stop working eventually.
Whiladan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
January 13 2011 08:40 GMT
#39
It would matter if he were not ranked in the GSL, because qualifiers for Code A are based off of ladder ranking AFAIK.

But they're not, so it doesn't I guess. This probably would cause a bigger stir if it was someone who had dropped off already coughbitbybitprimecough.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 13 2011 08:42 GMT
#40
Hmmm. Well, it does make you wonder how many other players might be doing this on ladder.
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