EPT[Update] choyafOu penalized by GomTV for ladder abuse - Pa…
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Liquid`Nazgul
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Xeph
Korea (South)191 Posts
Jung-Won Chae, the director of Gretech E-Sports Operations and GSL commentator, personally comment to progamers: "Think before you act" ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/UTP83.jpg) Updated on OP also. | ||
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imbecile
563 Posts
Liquid`Nazgul wrote: So in a ladder qualifier to a big tournament you can just ask your opponent to leave every game and qualify with 100-0 and 100 freewins and you would say it is completely within the confines of regular play? That's how Aleksandr Karelin won his olympic gold medal in 1992. Every opponent but one forfeited. If it's ok for the olympics ... | ||
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Fushin
France193 Posts
Well, I think GOM as nothing to learn from Kespa anymore. This story is invading of Choya's personnal life. GOM has no right to condemn him for his activities on blizzard ladder, it's like two completely different things. If anyone has to penalize him, it's Blizzard, and I'm not even sure what he did is against the terms of use for Starcraft 2. Obviously, i find this abuse really stupid and i'm against it. And since GOM needs ladder for code B, i understand they have to do something. But this too harsh, especially because Choya doesn't even need code B. They should have announce that ppl would be disqualified from code B ranking if they did that, and officially warn Choya without taking action. And props to Blizzard for their retarded ladder system. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On January 14 2011 20:52 imbecile wrote: That's how Aleksandr Karelin won his olympic gold medal in 1992. Every opponent but one forfeited. If it's ok for the olympics ... Karelin (EUN) fall (1:33), Johansson (SWE) Karelin (EUN) fall (0:14), Grigoraş (ROU) Karelin (EUN) Karelin (EUN) decision (8-1), Ahokas (FIN) Karelin (EUN) fall (2:15), Mesa (CUB) Karelin (EUN) fall (1:30), Borodow (CAN) Am I missing something here? It's not even comparable at all for that matter but still, your facts seem off but I don't really know wrestling. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
if there was qualifiers for blizzcon or something where top 30 go through or something, then yes punish him. but honestly he hasnt affected anyone. i assume if the player refused he would just say okay and play, but if the player decides to play, then who loses? points dont mean anything, and its lowering his status on the top200 (which is what matters more) as he is only having a 50% win rate | ||
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danielsan
Romania399 Posts
On January 14 2011 21:00 Fushin wrote: I remember hearing the OGS coach saying that working with Kespa is like working for soviet russia, and working with gom is working with usa. Well, I think GOM as nothing to learn from Kespa anymore. This story is invading of Choya's personnal life. GOM has no right to condemn him for his activities on blizzard ladder, it's like two completely different things. If anyone has to penalize him, it's Blizzard, and I'm not even sure what he did is against the terms of use for Starcraft 2. Obviously, i find this abuse really stupid and i'm against it. And since GOM needs ladder for code B, i understand they have to do something. But this too harsh, especially because Choya doesn't even need code B. They should have announce that ppl would be disqualified from code B ranking if they did that, and officially warn Choya without taking action. And props to Blizzard for their retarded ladder system. They penalize him on their own court, like issuing a ban on a stadium for missbehaviour. The offender can go on any other stadium except that one. His rights of watching football are not removed. Their tournament, their rules. It's not like they fined him, beat him or kick him out of his own house It is harsh but it was also necessary to avoid any further abuses. An example. I salute that. Official warning with no action. That makes no sense. | ||
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Tsabo
Russian Federation266 Posts
On January 14 2011 21:00 Fushin wrote: I remember hearing the OGS coach saying that working with Kespa is like working for soviet russia, and working with gom is working with usa. Well, I think GOM as nothing to learn from Kespa anymore. This story is invading of Choya's personnal life. GOM has no right to condemn him for his activities on blizzard ladder, it's like two completely different things. If anyone has to penalize him, it's Blizzard, and I'm not even sure what he did is against the terms of use for Starcraft 2. Obviously, i find this abuse really stupid and i'm against it. And since GOM needs ladder for code B, i understand they have to do something. But this too harsh, especially because Choya doesn't even need code B. They should have announce that ppl would be disqualified from code B ranking if they did that, and officially warn Choya without taking action. And props to Blizzard for their retarded ladder system. Gom has every right to ban him from THEIR tournament for WHATEVER reason they see fit. | ||
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imbecile
563 Posts
On January 14 2011 21:34 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Karelin (EUN) fall (1:33), Johansson (SWE) Karelin (EUN) fall (0:14), Grigoraş (ROU) Karelin (EUN) Karelin (EUN) decision (8-1), Ahokas (FIN) Karelin (EUN) fall (2:15), Mesa (CUB) Karelin (EUN) fall (1:30), Borodow (CAN) Am I missing something here? It's not even comparable at all for that matter but still, your facts seem off but I don't really know wrestling. Well, then it was 1996, where the opponent forfeited in semis and quarters ... fuzzy memories and hyperbole  But agree, not quite the same. Just that giving up is a proper way for matches to be decided. And that strictly speaking most sc matches are decided that way. And intimidation is probably one of the ways to bring your opponent to give up ... | ||
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peachsncream
United States289 Posts
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TM-Magic
United States61 Posts
Looks like this is anti zerg craft at work! BLACK MAGIC! | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4561 Posts
On January 14 2011 23:55 peachsncream wrote: Wow just lost complete interest in gomtv after seeing this.... hahaha, how you came to that decision is beyond me hahaha | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4561 Posts
On January 14 2011 23:58 TM-Magic wrote: That is hilarious, but what I find interesting is his wins give him 20 points and his loses give him -2. So faster played games give players less for a loss and more for a win?!?!?!? Looks like this is anti zerg craft at work! BLACK MAGIC! No I think it's to do with the way Master League is working right now if I'm not mistaken... | ||
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
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Krazzymisa
United States2 Posts
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gravethrasher
Norway89 Posts
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
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hmsrenown
Canada1263 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
why would he even do that? im suprised people actually accepted his rock paper scissors offer. if i lost i'd probably just unpause anyways and say lol. Gomtv can do whatever they want, he is a member of their S class and by doing things like this he reflects poorly on and ultimately hurts Gomtv. | ||
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