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Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
January 13 2011 15:26 GMT
#221
Its a bit dishonest, whatever the relevance of ladder, its Starcraft, and your supposed to win by playing Starcraft, not by playing rock paper scissors.
Maybe choya should try for a pro RPS league.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
January 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#222
Sad, I always liked him for being such a baller with carriers in GSL
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2011 15:37 GMT
#223
there is no money on the line and noone gets harmed... so i don't think its a scandal...
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 15:38 GMT
#224
On January 13 2011 17:29 IdrA wrote:
if he wants games decided by random chance he could just play the way he always does


This was actually the best post in this thread lol.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
ZerOfy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom405 Posts
January 13 2011 15:49 GMT
#225
On January 13 2011 17:28 SenorChang wrote:
Don't see how this even matters lol


Same...
My life for Aiur!
danielsan
Profile Joined December 2010
Romania399 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 15:53:15
January 13 2011 15:51 GMT
#226
they dont make scandals like they used to
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
January 13 2011 15:53 GMT
#227
On January 13 2011 17:29 IdrA wrote:
if he wants games decided by random chance he could just play the way he always does


lmao. so true. Leather Jacket IdrA has spoken.
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robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
January 13 2011 15:57 GMT
#228
I guess it is a scandal every time doesn't try their best or experiments with new strategies on the ladder too, since they weren't trying to do everything they could to give themselves the highest chance to win.
True skill comes without effort.
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 16:04:35
January 13 2011 16:02 GMT
#229
On January 14 2011 00:57 robertdinh wrote:
I guess it is a scandal every time doesn't try their best or experiments with new strategies on the ladder too, since they weren't trying to do everything they could to give themselves the highest chance to win.

What? Really? Try reading the quote from Nazgul in the OP. This is a scandal because while it may seem innocent, it is still abusing the system.

I really don't understand why a player who is already in the biggest SC2 tournament would try to mess around like this. If he feels like playing rock paper scissors, I'm sure there's a custom map for that. If he feels like playing Starcraft, then he can stick to ladder games.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
January 13 2011 16:03 GMT
#230
On January 14 2011 00:57 robertdinh wrote:
I guess it is a scandal every time doesn't try their best or experiments with new strategies on the ladder too, since they weren't trying to do everything they could to give themselves the highest chance to win.


coming to you next week, the gsl season 4 final where our two players will pause the game 15 seconds after it starts, then play rps in a bo7 to determine who wins 85k USD!

not comparable? perhaps, but seriously this kid is trying to game the system since you retardedly gain way more than you lose in terms of points subsequent to a win or loss respectively.

I've seen people do this kind of stuff at MTG pro quals. It's not like they wont do it if you turn a blind eye.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
LeCastor
Profile Joined July 2010
France234 Posts
January 13 2011 16:06 GMT
#231
Yet another achievements farmer !
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
January 13 2011 16:06 GMT
#232
On January 14 2011 00:57 robertdinh wrote:
I guess it is a scandal every time doesn't try their best or experiments with new strategies on the ladder too, since they weren't trying to do everything they could to give themselves the highest chance to win.


wow. bad.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
January 13 2011 16:09 GMT
#233
This doesn't seem relevant.
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Proto_Protoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States495 Posts
January 13 2011 16:10 GMT
#234
I guess he was just getting bored and wanted to play Rock Paper Scissors. Hes pretty good at it too it seems.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in getting up everytime we do." - Confucius
raidmaster
Profile Joined July 2010
474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 16:11:28
January 13 2011 16:11 GMT
#235
Wow, those topics are becoming more and more silly every day. Who the hell cares about a guy that does such things on ladder. What is so bad about it? It is his account, he can do whatever he want with it.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
January 13 2011 16:16 GMT
#236
On January 14 2011 01:11 raidmaster wrote:
Wow, those topics are becoming more and more silly every day. Who the hell cares about a guy that does such things on ladder. What is so bad about it? It is his account, he can do whatever he want with it.


He represents more than himself. He represents his team, sponsors and E-sports in general. He can't do whatever he wants. He should be acting professional...at the very least not abuse a system which some leagues and tournies use to rate players. He is code S... yes. Is he gonna win GSL? Nope... People need other tourneys and leagues to play in to have a chance to win some cash
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
January 13 2011 16:20 GMT
#237
Damn, this became a featured community news? Really, some people are having fun creating drama out of nothing.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Ry0ftw
Profile Joined December 2010
23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 16:44:17
January 13 2011 16:43 GMT
#238
Its funny I was actually playing Choya the other day.

I opened with scissors, with the view of later transitioning into paper. It was just a shame that he hard countered my opener with rock before my late game plans were able to unfold...



...Drumroll please...

-.-"
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 16:45:46
January 13 2011 16:44 GMT
#239
This thread is proof that TL.Net consists of a bunch of drama queens.

Quoting the only post that actually matters in this thread:
On January 13 2011 17:29 IdrA wrote:
if he wants games decided by random chance he could just play the way he always does
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
January 13 2011 16:51 GMT
#240
On January 14 2011 00:33 Krehlmar wrote:
Sad, I always liked him for being such a baller with carriers in GSL

That was Hongun.
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