BoxeR posted on his twitter that he is making his own clan named Slayers (short name, sls). From that personal sponsorship news I posted a while ago, it may not be surprising for you to read this.
The requirement is anyone over 1800 rating in Diamond league to join, although this requirement may change as ratings fluctuate. BoxeR did note that he is not going to take in anyone who already belongs to a clan or a team.
Edit: Tanatos linked a PlayXP article, and just as I suspected, the netizens wanted proof at first. Then it was revealed on Gisado that this is true. So it is not a rumor.
Consider that the competition on the mid to high Diamond level on the Korean server is a little bit tougher than NA. So 1800 is a bit more of saying 2000 most likely for NA, plus thats most likely a requirement to apply to join. He's probably looking to not exclude upcoming talent which is a good idea if it's true.
On November 09 2010 06:37 Pull wrote: I want to join!!!!!!!!!! Oof'
You and every fanboy-girl nerd, just like me too bad I'm not skilled enough to be in his presence, i would simply die.
On a more realistic note, i hope this is true, a team made by SlayerSBoxeR should bring a lot of attention to Starcraft 2 from Korea furthering its influence and growth for esports.
Yeah the Koreans differentiate between Clans and Teams more, the Clans are more of a community of players where sometimes the clan will include a Team of the best players but being a team is not their main goal. But with Boxer I'd be surprised if he wasnt trying to find some "young" talent by bringing in some of the lower ranked guys before they get the attention of the other teams.
On November 09 2010 07:03 FliedLice wrote: the relatively low rating and the rule that he doesn't take players from other teams really make it look like some "talent scout" project
I agree, ELO doesn't really represent skill level accurately. I am sure he is just aiming low, so then during try outs he can hand select his opening round of clan mates. This is just to weed out the fanboys who just don't have the necessary skills.
He may be wanting to scout players who could be pro with the right training. There are people out there who could be great, but since they are not on a team and lack direction and advice they never reach their potential.
It could be that creative spark and ambition he is looking for, not just current skill.
On November 09 2010 06:42 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: Yeah the Koreans differentiate between Clans and Teams more, the Clans are more of a community of players where sometimes the clan will include a Team of the best players but being a team is not their main goal. But with Boxer I'd be surprised if he wasnt trying to find some "young" talent by bringing in some of the lower ranked guys before they get the attention of the other teams.
I would have to agree with you there. He had the skill to pick up Oov and train him into one of the most, if not most, dominant SC:BW player of all time.
THanks for the distinction between Clan and Team though, I now sort of get the difference with clans like WeRRa and teams like OGS-TL/TSL.
It is already confirmed by Gisado. (the most influetial korean streamer) He must be looking for some who doesn't belong to any clan with good skills. Then requirement of 1800 above sounds reasonable.
He wants some young blood. Makes sense he would put the rating lowerish so more can try out and he has a better chance of finding someone really good but really unknown as well. Can't wait to hear more on this.
On November 09 2010 07:15 Roe wrote: he's already one step ahead of us. he's going to pick out new talents and be their coaches later on, thus gaining even more money, fame, and women.
BoxeR suddenly gains another trillion nerd fans.
I suspect this is his way of sifting through the talent pool, with less manpower to do it than the other clans.
Full translation from playXP (http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=2306513&page=12)
Hello^^ This is Lim Yo Hwan. Previously I was getting lots of info and help from PlayXP and I finally joined and writing a note. I heard there are lots of hidden gosu in XP! I was performing in GSL S2 with no team.. It was pretty tough. That is why I am going to start a small new clan to prepare GSL S3. This clan is not about friendly fellowship, but trying to learn from each gosu members, so the requirement to join is kinda tight. Even it is small start, I am inviting people who wants to work with me. I made cafe on naver and it is http://cafe.naver.com/slsclan Hoping for many support and notice!
I feel like this is BoxeR looking to find the next oov. He's got an eye for talent, and widening the search is a good way to find the gems in the rough.
On November 09 2010 07:08 Tanatos wrote: It is already confirmed by Gisado. (the most influetial korean streamer) He must be looking for some who doesn't belong to any clan with good skills. Then requirement of 1800 above sounds reasonable.
yeah i just did a better search on playxp and found gisado's post and some other stuff, looks to be true
1800 is incredibly low given that the bonus pool total is currently over 1400. That means a rating sans-inflation of 400, or roughly 35 wins over losses. Definitely an easy feat. If I were him, I'd instead just sort SC2Ranks by win ratio and go down the list until I find a player that's a) over 55%, and b) has over 500 1v1 games played, and try them out in some practice matches.
Keep in mind that when Boxer scouted players for his Orion team, he took the absolute top of the top Gamei players. Asking for 1800+ players is like scouting the top ~30% or so of Diamond.
On November 09 2010 07:20 Tanatos wrote: Full translation from playXP (http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=2306513&page=12)
Hello^^ This is Lim Yo Hwan. Previously I was getting lots of info and help from PlayXP and I finally joined and writing a note. I heard there are lots of hidden gosu in XP! I was performing in GSL S2 with no team.. It was pretty tough. That is why I am going to start a small new clan to prepare GSL S3. This clan is not about friendly fellowship, but trying to learn from each gosu members, so the requirement to join is kinda tight. Even it is small start, I am inviting people who wants to work with me. I made cafe on naver and it is http://cafe.naver.com/slsclan Hoping for many support and notice!
Thanks for translating, this is great news, more teams (provided they are stable) is better. I think going with SlayerS as the name is so awesome as well, best of luck to them.
i have no idea what 1800 on korean servers is but even so it's a clan not a team so i think it's good that he's letting mid level players in as he is an icon probably wants to help spread it if this is legit *hey i can play with lim yo hwan if i get this level* maybe he wants to push ladder if so he's even better then i thought.
On November 09 2010 08:19 Beagle23 wrote: When people in this thread say SEA server, they mean KR server right? Or are they saying that BoxeR plays on SEA as well?
People are unaware that Korea has their own server. He does not play on SEA
Pretty awesome news imo and the 1800 rating will probably allow a wide spectrum of players to try to apply so SlayerSBoxeR will have plenty to scout and evaluate...who knows, he might find some hidden gem.
On November 09 2010 08:52 GobIin wrote: 1800 thats like Artosis skill level
Now that you said that you might be giving Artosis some ideas and hes gonna be trying to get recruited so he can play with SlayerSBoxeR on a daily basis
On November 09 2010 07:22 Excalibur_Z wrote: 1800 is incredibly low given that the bonus pool total is currently over 1400. That means a rating sans-inflation of 400, or roughly 35 wins over losses. Definitely an easy feat. If I were him, I'd instead just sort SC2Ranks by win ratio and go down the list until I find a player that's a) over 55%, and b) has over 500 1v1 games played, and try them out in some practice matches.
Keep in mind that when Boxer scouted players for his Orion team, he took the absolute top of the top Gamei players. Asking for 1800+ players is like scouting the top ~30% or so of Diamond.
Keep in mind this is just a clan and not an actual team. I'm positive he will only take those who are the at the highest level in his clan into his actual pro team.
On November 09 2010 07:22 Excalibur_Z wrote: 1800 is incredibly low given that the bonus pool total is currently over 1400. That means a rating sans-inflation of 400, or roughly 35 wins over losses. Definitely an easy feat. If I were him, I'd instead just sort SC2Ranks by win ratio and go down the list until I find a player that's a) over 55%, and b) has over 500 1v1 games played, and try them out in some practice matches.
Keep in mind that when Boxer scouted players for his Orion team, he took the absolute top of the top Gamei players. Asking for 1800+ players is like scouting the top ~30% or so of Diamond.
Keep in mind this is just a clan and not an actual team. I'm positive he will only take those who are the at the highest level in his clan into his actual pro team.
On November 09 2010 08:52 GobIin wrote: 1800 thats like Artosis skill level
Lol you have to be kidding.
But really, 1800 does sound incredibly low. I'm 1850 and there's no way i could compete with pros.
Nope, korean ladder is very different, artosis is around 1900 but 2 days ago he was 1800 i mean im not saying that hes the best but 1800 players on korea could prob make it to top 200 on US if they laddered enough
Very cool and exciting news. 1800 may seem low, but not everyone plays ladder since they rather play custom games against someone on a similar skill level or higher. Besides, there are a ton of unknown players out there that can take a game(s) off current top players out there. Look at some of the players at GSL, who were "no names" and they did well (I.E. FoxeR, the one player that eliminated Tester,etc).
1800 is pathetically low when the peak is like 2800 2900. He could have set it at 2500 and gotten some great players with THAT sort of salary they could be paid...
1800 is the bare minimum. It's not like he'll accept all 1800+ non-clan members into sls. You guys freak out too much. If he sees potential in someone as low as 1800 he might pick them up, and at the same time he'll turn away plenty people above 2000.
Funny how he decided to name the clan 'Slayers'. Cause 'Boxer' was actually the guild name, and Slayers was his personal name though 's' on slayer made it reasonable to think that Boxer is his name. (Source: Boxer DVD released years and years ago. There is a section where he explains how he named himself) And as a person who play on both KR/US servers I would roughly say that 1800 KR server is 2100ish US. It's still not that high but I believe it's good enough to seek out new, talented players.
On November 09 2010 07:22 Excalibur_Z wrote: 1800 is incredibly low given that the bonus pool total is currently over 1400. That means a rating sans-inflation of 400, or roughly 35 wins over losses. Definitely an easy feat. If I were him, I'd instead just sort SC2Ranks by win ratio and go down the list until I find a player that's a) over 55%, and b) has over 500 1v1 games played, and try them out in some practice matches.
Keep in mind that when Boxer scouted players for his Orion team, he took the absolute top of the top Gamei players. Asking for 1800+ players is like scouting the top ~30% or so of Diamond.
Keep in mind this is just a clan and not an actual team. I'm positive he will only take those who are the at the highest level in his clan into his actual pro team.
I guess so, that's still a ton of potential applicants to weed through though.
On November 09 2010 09:57 Coldviolet wrote: Funny how he decided to name the clan 'Slayers'. Cause 'Boxer' was actually the guild name, and Slayers was his personal name though 's' on slayer made it reasonable to think that Boxer is his name. (Source: Boxer DVD released years and years ago. There is a section where he explains how he named himself) And as a person who play on both KR/US servers I would roughly say that 1800 KR server is 2100ish US. It's still not that high but I believe it's good enough to seek out new, talented players.
Yea i think they just wanna get applicants in to see what talent is out there it is just a clan then they will choose there top 8 or so as the team the ones who actually get paid
Guys, you're reading it wrong. The requirement to be CONSIDERED is 1800. If you're over 1800 and without a clan it doesn't mean you automatically get accepted...
He should make a team called Bonjwas and just coax july and nada to leave their respective teams and join him. Then of course he'll convert iloveoov and jailbreak savior to join as well as strong arming flash into betraying kespa and join the dark side. A little fantastical perhaps? :p
thats very awesome. Imagine being able to say "Yea, i was part of SlayerS".. thats almost as cool as being able to say you were part of Liquid` in the SC1 days -_-
On November 09 2010 10:25 Telcontar wrote: He should make a team called Bonjwas and just coax july and nada to leave their respective teams and join him. Then of course he'll convert iloveoov and jailbreak savior to join as well as strong arming flash into betraying kespa and join the dark side. A little fantastical perhaps? :p
July was never a Bonjwa, even though he was really good for a period of time, he never dominated like the others did.
That brings up the question why it came around because of him...
On November 09 2010 07:22 Excalibur_Z wrote:Keep in mind that when Boxer scouted players for his Orion team, he took the absolute top of the top Gamei players. Asking for 1800+ players is like scouting the top ~30% or so of Diamond.
We are talking about KR server here. I just checked on sc2ranks and it's the top 8% of Diamond.
1800 is reasonable if you consider the fact that he's not going to take people who already belong to teams/clans since anyone significantly higher than 1800 on KR server very likely already has an affiliation.
while at first glance 1800 seems pretty low, I'd wager that over time he'll hand pick/groom the best from that to represent the "team" as opposed to the large clan. Who knows, we'll see!
1800 diamond on the korean server, while still low, is definitely on a completely different level to a 1800 diamond on the NA server.
not many on TL play on the korean server and have little idea of how big the gap actually is... still think the vast majority NA 2000+ diamonds would be low diamond/plat in korea. all of the (regular, not jinro/huk/TLO/whatever) TLers playing on the korean servers are on average two leagues below where they are on NA.
just sayin, because there seem to be a lot of "that's low" comments here...
FYI, 1800 >> the korean GSL commentator (not 박준규, who posts here, but the other one, forgot his ID)
On November 09 2010 16:59 zeehar wrote: 1800 diamond on the korean server, while still low, is definitely on a completely different level to a 1800 diamond on the NA server.
not many on TL play on the korean server and have little idea of how big the gap actually is... still think the vast majority NA 2000+ diamonds would be low diamond/plat in korea. all of the (regular, not jinro/huk/TLO/whatever) TLers playing on the korean servers are on average two leagues below where they are on NA.
just sayin, because there seem to be a lot of "that's low" comments here...
FYI, 1800 >> the korean GSL commentator (not 박준규, who posts here, but the other one, forgot his ID)
I know all of the Korean commentators have diamond-level accounts.... Paranoia (안준영 i think), LJY (Oversky), SprinG (female caster), dzdzdz (Daezang) and Sort (채정원 i think thats his name).
On November 09 2010 16:59 zeehar wrote: 1800 diamond on the korean server, while still low, is definitely on a completely different level to a 1800 diamond on the NA server.
not many on TL play on the korean server and have little idea of how big the gap actually is... still think the vast majority NA 2000+ diamonds would be low diamond/plat in korea. all of the (regular, not jinro/huk/TLO/whatever) TLers playing on the korean servers are on average two leagues below where they are on NA.
just sayin, because there seem to be a lot of "that's low" comments here...
FYI, 1800 >> the korean GSL commentator (not 박준규, who posts here, but the other one, forgot his ID)
I know all of the Korean commentators have diamond-level accounts.... Paranoia (안준영 i think), LJY (Oversky), SprinG (female caster), dzdzdz (Daezang) and Sort (채정원 i think thats his name).
Talking the truth, Paranoia is 채정원(Chae, Jeongwon ; @WoWnStarcraft of twitter).
Basically he (or Blizzard?) is going to make more people buy sc2 and they will read all the comments that 1800 is so low and easy to get etc that they're gonna try to apply wishing to be in boxers team. That's what I'm getting from that story and the comments here.
I find it pretty reasonable to put 1800 as a minimum. Considering it's a clan and not a team, my guess is that he's looking for up and coming players, players with potential. With this minimum, a bunch of people will send replays, apply and whatnot, and he can look through these and pick out the ones that stand out. Then eventually make a team out of the best players.
On November 09 2010 21:36 Alpina wrote: Highest in korea is almost 3000 now, why he would take mediocre 1800 players?
Who's saying he won't take the 3000 players? That's just the minimum. And also consider the fact that the game is still relatively new, lots of new players starting out and maybe not massing games to reach the highest level yet, I find it quite plausible to find some players with real potential at the 1800 mark.
korean ladder is a lot harder than US from what i've found, there are sooooooooooooooooooooo many good players from all the clans NEX/ogs/fou/prime etc etc
I dont know if the korean ladder is any harder, so ill keep my mouth shut on that ^.^
I am currently thinking about getting a korean version of SC2 just to be in the Clan of the emperor... Just how cool is it to have a "little training session" with Boxer, or even being able to watch a session of him?!
1800 is a pretty tough call for me thou, i have to admit it would take some time to achieve this... (Yep. I am one of those mediocre-ish fanboys who get mentioned so often here...=))
1800 is exactly where it needs to be. The game is new, someone with 2700 now doesnt mean hes good, it means that he play alot. So I guess Boxer doesnt want to miss out any raw talent out there since you cant really only rely on old pro and expect to be success in SC2. You need new people, new faces, raw talent. Goodluck to Boxer, its time to start being a Coach.
On November 09 2010 21:36 Alpina wrote: Highest in korea is almost 3000 now, why he would take mediocre 1800 players?
Who's saying he won't take the 3000 players? That's just the minimum. And also consider the fact that the game is still relatively new, lots of new players starting out and maybe not massing games to reach the highest level yet, I find it quite plausible to find some players with real potential at the 1800 mark.
Well yeah if someone has 1800 with few games then definately he can be good, but if someone has played a lot games and still 1800 then it's nowhere a good player imo, even at korean ladder.
On November 09 2010 20:25 goldfishs wrote: Maybe the Emperor is searching for an apprentice to coach to the top? if he gets one obviously he shall be nicked Darth "current name"
On November 09 2010 21:57 Alpina wrote: Well yeah if someone has 1800 with few games then definately he can be good, but if someone has played a lot games and still 1800 then it's nowhere a good player imo, even at korean ladder.
you dont get more points for playing more... Bonus points are uneffected by the amount of your games (as long as you play enough to spend them all, of course).
On November 09 2010 06:39 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: Consider that the competition on the mid to high Diamond level on the Korean server is a little bit tougher than NA. So 1800 is a bit more of saying 2000 most likely for NA, plus thats most likely a requirement to apply to join. He's probably looking to not exclude upcoming talent which is a good idea if it's true.
I'd even go so far as to say 1800 in Korean is 2300 in NA/EU/SEA etc.
On November 09 2010 06:38 Draconicfire wrote: 1800? That seems kinda low.
You have to start somewhere.
I would wager a bet that boxer doesn't want to recruit the best. He wants to find the new talent which imo would be better for the long term.
Yup, that's what I was thinking as well. There's plenty of people out there that could be great if they just had the proper training partners and teachers. And who better than BoXer?
Great idea, as they might be a few great players uncovered, also while also having a big group of players isnt always bad as only the ones who win many in house tourneys or consistenly play well will ever play in any clan matches if they do play.
Also great for a team spirit having many players involved.
On November 09 2010 23:40 dekuschrub wrote: 1800 is way too low
im fucking 2k and I suck
You don't suck by any real-world standards (top 1k is decent). You do need a reality check though.
If you mean "you suck" relative to your full potential, that's something intangible that nobody other than you can ever judge, so it's a pretty useless metric.
If you mean "you suck" as in "ain't gonna win the GSL", well, an amateur running a marathon in 2:30 isn't exactly record-breaking either, but you'd still be delusional to call him slow. Especially if someone posts that time on a public forum and says he sucks -- for no particular reason, with no further context.
On November 09 2010 23:48 ULTRA[tor] wrote: OMG, THIS IS THA SHIT. Getting to boxers team? in sc2? and gettin payed for it? SAdd some non backstabbing girls on there and its heaven! :D.
I don't think the members of the clan are gonna get paid, more likely just the team members and this is still just a clan from what I understand.
I assume only korean's can join? Either way its not like I know korean lol so that itself probably eliminates me, cant really apply to something, when I dont even know where the application is XD.
I'm sure when he decided 1800, he wanted players with AT THE VERY LEAST 1800 and I can only guess, when he does tryouts, realise that some 1800 players have the potential to go higher while some 2200 have reached their limit
On November 09 2010 06:38 Draconicfire wrote: 1800? That seems kinda low.
You have to start somewhere.
I would wager a bet that boxer doesn't want to recruit the best. He wants to find the new talent which imo would be better for the long term.
Limiting good players (current or future) will never be "better" if you want to create the best team possible. (Clearly that's not his intention, though)
It should be mentioned most of high ranking Koreans on the ladders already belong to a clan or a team. BoxeR said he's not going to take anyone who already belongs to one.
So there's no point of having high rating requirements, he won't be able to find anyone!
You'd think with his money he'd buy an actual domain name.
Slayers and sls are taken, but SlayersClan.com, etc. is not. Now we wait and see who buys up all the slayers/sls domain related names and tries to make boxer pay them $10,000.
Hmmm, now that I think of it, maybe I can sell my web design services to Boxer...
On November 09 2010 06:39 iCCup.Raelcun wrote: Consider that the competition on the mid to high Diamond level on the Korean server is a little bit tougher than NA. So 1800 is a bit more of saying 2000 most likely for NA, plus thats most likely a requirement to apply to join. He's probably looking to not exclude upcoming talent which is a good idea if it's true.
I'd even go so far as to say 1800 in Korean is 2300 in NA/EU/SEA etc.
Are there any known foreigners that meet those reqs. and boxer likes? Cause he said in an interview before that he thought TLO was one of the best players on the scene at the time.
Wth seriously? I thought there were thousands of players above 1800. Or maybe I'm just not looking at sc2ranks in the right way... hmm, the rankings might be clouding my mind from the real numbers. After all it seems as if everyone is 1800+ on TL with the way people boast about it.
On November 06 2010 05:17 AlgeriaT wrote: Ok, so I'm pretty crushed that BoxeR got rofflestomped by NesTea and is out.
On the other hand, honestly I never expected him to get even this far. AND what a revenge match coming up - FoxeR now has the chance to shove a fat load of stim down that filthy zerg's throat and avenge his hero!!!
FoxeR defends BoxeR's honor, becomes his protegé, gets hired on the new SlayerS team - and then they rule the universe as father and son and come back in GSL3 and just mop everything up together.
SC2 still hasn't reached original SCBW levels in Korea. Meaning... there are a lot of Oov/Nada/Boxer/Yellow/JD/Flash v2.0's out there, not yet harnessed. They're not going to be 1800+ in Korea, because they've JUST started picking up the game because of Boxer & Nada.
In other words... there are a ton of UNBELIEVABLY talented koreans scaling the ladder right now, and some of the best haven't gotten near the top yet. I think this is a smart decision by Boxer... have a TON of "SlayerS"s floating around, let them improve, and then at the end, form a team out of the top. Then all the SlayerS clan members will strive to be in that team... and as everyone keeps saying, maybe the next Oov will be there someday.
If he takes in 1800 players this is obviously some fan-clan for mere mortals. He will probably take in som stars..but if this is true, this is for the fans. 1800 is not even close to being a korean pro, and will never be.
lol i think people are taking the 1800 requirement wayyyy too literally. I think it'd be more like college requirements, where you can apply with a 3.0 GPA but you won't get accepted with a 3.0 unless you got something else special about you.
On November 06 2010 05:17 AlgeriaT wrote: Ok, so I'm pretty crushed that BoxeR got rofflestomped by NesTea and is out.
On the other hand, honestly I never expected him to get even this far. AND what a revenge match coming up - FoxeR now has the chance to shove a fat load of stim down that filthy zerg's throat and avenge his hero!!!
FoxeR defends BoxeR's honor, becomes his protegé, gets hired on the new SlayerS team - and then they rule the universe as father and son and come back in GSL3 and just mop everything up together.
Gonna be awesome tbh
That my friend is called a spoiler... we put these in a spoiler box.
On November 10 2010 01:29 Kazeyonoma wrote: and with the announcement of this, blizzard rapidly shifts all development to create clan support on bnet 2.0. Thus is the power of BoxeR ;p
lol that would be so nice where you can apply for a clan and if you're accepted a tag gets added before or after your name and if you get removed from the clan the tag gets removed.
There are lots of posts coming up on Korean community saying that they are rejected even if their ratings are 2000+, so it's pretty obvious that 1800 doesn't mean you can get in.
ps: he also mentioned that he takes people who haven't used 'name change service' yet
On November 10 2010 03:58 Wings wrote: I think everyone is forgetting...
SC2 still hasn't reached original SCBW levels in Korea. Meaning... there are a lot of Oov/Nada/Boxer/Yellow/JD/Flash v2.0's out there, not yet harnessed. They're not going to be 1800+ in Korea, because they've JUST started picking up the game because of Boxer & Nada.
In other words... there are a ton of UNBELIEVABLY talented koreans scaling the ladder right now, and some of the best haven't gotten near the top yet. I think this is a smart decision by Boxer... have a TON of "SlayerS"s floating around, let them improve, and then at the end, form a team out of the top. Then all the SlayerS clan members will strive to be in that team... and as everyone keeps saying, maybe the next Oov will be there someday.
I would argue that the talent field has already depleted due to BW. You are forgetting that SC2 is not a brand new type of game, but one that is to either replace or co-exist with BW. All four GSL2 finalists were former- BW progamers. In Korea, SC2 is in fact less popular than BW atm, and hence it is dubious that SC2 is attracting new talents. Those who are on top of the ladder should all be those with considerable BW experience.
Hence, a second Oov in the existing SC2 talent pool is not likely. But Boxer's method may still work out on the premise that the old BW players do not switch to SC2.
On November 10 2010 03:58 Wings wrote: I think everyone is forgetting...
SC2 still hasn't reached original SCBW levels in Korea. Meaning... there are a lot of Oov/Nada/Boxer/Yellow/JD/Flash v2.0's out there, not yet harnessed. They're not going to be 1800+ in Korea, because they've JUST started picking up the game because of Boxer & Nada.
In other words... there are a ton of UNBELIEVABLY talented koreans scaling the ladder right now, and some of the best haven't gotten near the top yet. I think this is a smart decision by Boxer... have a TON of "SlayerS"s floating around, let them improve, and then at the end, form a team out of the top. Then all the SlayerS clan members will strive to be in that team... and as everyone keeps saying, maybe the next Oov will be there someday.
I would argue that the talent field has already depleted due to BW. You are forgetting that SC2 is not a brand new type of game, but one that is to either replace or co-exist with BW. All four GSL2 finalists were former- BW progamers. In Korea, SC2 is in fact less popular than BW atm, and hence it is dubious that SC2 is attracting new talents. Those who are on top of the ladder should all be those with considerable BW experience.
Hence, a second Oov in the existing SC2 talent pool is not likely. But Boxer's method may still work out on the premise that the old BW players do not switch to SC2.
Complete Bogus! Right now I bet there's plenty of players who have the potential to become great learning the game and rising through the ranks. You got to remember, Boxer started off only building Zealots. How many top players today started by only playing BGH and Fastest? The new game, and new leagues revive interest in actually playing competitively yourself, and Sc2 is easier to macro so the player field is broadened over time, not shrunk.
On November 10 2010 07:31 Derky wrote: Someone who knows Boxer plz tell him to change the clan name from Slayers to ManofOne*insert something here* lolol
That is blasphemy of the highest caliber, good sir.
On November 10 2010 07:31 Derky wrote: Someone who knows Boxer plz tell him to change the clan name from Slayers to ManofOne*insert something here* lolol
That is blasphemy of the highest caliber, good sir.
I'm not sure how he interprets the difference between clan and Team. A clan can be a large group of people with a few who are really good and compete while everyone else either doesnt compete or leeches and says yea im part of sls. While a team is like 4-16 people dedicated just to winning competition. Im going to guess he means the latter but a clan as i mentioned above would be really awesome
On November 10 2010 03:59 Vaporeon wrote: lol i think people are taking the 1800 requirement wayyyy too literally. I think it'd be more like college requirements, where you can apply with a 3.0 GPA but you won't get accepted with a 3.0 unless you got something else special about you.
yeah this description would make alot more sense.
there are tons of 1800...if this is really the ONLY requirement, then boxer will have a good number of registries in the 5 digits.
would've been more helpful if boxer or I stated whether this applies to just KR or global.
I guess on the korean server, most "decent" players grind 1v1 games in private 1v1s rather than stomping the ladder. Since I think they prefere to perfect each match up one at a time on each match ready for any tournaments.
i think this is a great marketing move by mr. lim. without a doubt clan slayers can have the largest members of any starcraft "CLAN". with intel sponsoring him, lim fanboys will buy/wear anything that the clan advertises, as they're in the clan also (more reason to support clan related brands).
his main goal, according to him, is to form a gosu team/clan (outside of pro scene) so that he can improve. he firmly believes there are a lot of gosu hiding in the sc2(playxp) community.
On November 10 2010 03:59 Vaporeon wrote: lol i think people are taking the 1800 requirement wayyyy too literally. I think it'd be more like college requirements, where you can apply with a 3.0 GPA but you won't get accepted with a 3.0 unless you got something else special about you.
yeah this description would make alot more sense.
there are tons of 1800...if this is really the ONLY requirement, then boxer will have a good number of registries in the 5 digits.
would've been more helpful if boxer or I stated whether this applies to just KR or global.
I think that it's completely obvious that it only applies to the KR server... but I could be wrong.
On November 10 2010 03:59 Vaporeon wrote: lol i think people are taking the 1800 requirement wayyyy too literally. I think it'd be more like college requirements, where you can apply with a 3.0 GPA but you won't get accepted with a 3.0 unless you got something else special about you.
yeah this description would make alot more sense.
there are tons of 1800...if this is really the ONLY requirement, then boxer will have a good number of registries in the 5 digits.
would've been more helpful if boxer or I stated whether this applies to just KR or global.
says it's kr only on the site because of playability
With bonus pool going up and up, today's 1800 isn't the same as it was a month ago, even on KR. IMMvp just broke 3000 points. We'll have to see, but I bet BoxeR won't actually be accepting anyone lower than 2500. It's not like he'll be desperate to find players willing to play with him.
I'm really interested in who ends up here... I hope he finds some gems in the rough... pull some new blood into this. With SC2 there's bound to be tons out there.
On a semi-related note, the recent trend seems to be typing out your in game handle in korean. As in 슬레이어스박서. I was watching Gisado the other day and saw that a lot of other people are doing the same. ^^;;
On November 10 2010 15:24 silentreality wrote: On a semi-related note, the recent trend seems to be typing out your in game handle in korean. As in 슬레이어스박서. I was watching Gisado the other day and saw that a lot of other people are doing the same. ^^;;
I do hope cella would apply and its only logical to accept cella into slayers. Cella has such a huge foreign fan base. It would just simply bump the clan's image.
On November 10 2010 15:24 silentreality wrote: On a semi-related note, the recent trend seems to be typing out your in game handle in korean. As in 슬레이어스박서. I was watching Gisado the other day and saw that a lot of other people are doing the same. ^^;;
On November 09 2010 07:22 Excalibur_Z wrote: 1800 is incredibly low given that the bonus pool total is currently over 1400. That means a rating sans-inflation of 400, or roughly 35 wins over losses. Definitely an easy feat. If I were him, I'd instead just sort SC2Ranks by win ratio and go down the list until I find a player that's a) over 55%, and b) has over 500 1v1 games played, and try them out in some practice matches.
Keep in mind that when Boxer scouted players for his Orion team, he took the absolute top of the top Gamei players. Asking for 1800+ players is like scouting the top ~30% or so of Diamond.
your dumb,
maybe trying taking your own advice. sc2ranks lists
On November 09 2010 16:59 zeehar wrote: 1800 diamond on the korean server, while still low, is definitely on a completely different level to a 1800 diamond on the NA server.
not many on TL play on the korean server and have little idea of how big the gap actually is... still think the vast majority NA 2000+ diamonds would be low diamond/plat in korea. all of the (regular, not jinro/huk/TLO/whatever) TLers playing on the korean servers are on average two leagues below where they are on NA.
just sayin, because there seem to be a lot of "that's low" comments here...
FYI, 1800 >> the korean GSL commentator (not 박준규, who posts here, but the other one, forgot his ID)
so where is this coming from?
I am all for with the "koreans are doing better in SC2 than NA specifically, that I completely agree. There are more top level players there in the general, one would expect so from the culture.
However I don't understand this High Diamond in NA = Low Diamond / Plat in Korea.
People who have been playing on Korean server,(one of not shure who said it) TLO, HuK, Jinro etc said in previous interviews that THERE IS NO FRIGGEN DIFFERENCE.
Sure the korean server may be the toughest but I'd imagine the gap to be at the point of ~500 points range. Even that I believe is stretching it.
Can we stop this korean fanboyism until we have people who ACTUALLY ladder there and have solid results?
Idra sitting at 2500 for NA serve rand 2300 for KR server.
This doesn't factor in the fact that IdrA did not play on the NA account for a LOOONG time and thus when he got back in he was paired againts people that are below his level who climbed above him in points.
I see, he's training his flying monkeys so he can rise to fame in GSL3. Impeccable. It's odd how people think he'd be looking for the next up and coming talent when he hasn't even established himself as a tournament winner yet in SC2. That just makes no sense. He wants to improve himself, he even says so...
On a more less serious and quite entirely unrelated note (saw this when browsing the current top in terms of points on the KR server), it seems the name change should be handled with care. + Show Spoiler +
Or did he intend to misspell it since he's not a Prime anymore?
He is the Emperor. He is gathering his subjects. Long live the Emperor!
And 1800 is a requirement for joining. He didn't say he'd take every single person over 1800. But now he won't get every bronzie in Korea trying to join.
It would be cool if he got Cella and FoxeR Maybe some of the former WeRRas, who have not joined the new team.
Though I don't know how good a strategy it is to have multiple contenders in the same team. He said it himself, he thinks FoxeR is better at the moment. With the prize money that high at GSL, it might be hard to avoid internal rivalries.
On November 10 2010 17:48 unbal3 wrote: lol off-topic, but 오지에서과일장수 has to be one of the most clever names i've seen to date. made me lol when i got it.
I'm not sure the korean ladder as a whole has to be considered harder, because the ladder is made of normal people with jobs playing starcraft as a hobby, so they're dead even with the other regions. It is better at a very high level, but below that it should be aligned with all the others. I'd like to see some proof or at least some indication that us/eu diamond is like korean plat.
On November 09 2010 16:59 zeehar wrote: 1800 diamond on the korean server, while still low, is definitely on a completely different level to a 1800 diamond on the NA server.
not many on TL play on the korean server and have little idea of how big the gap actually is... still think the vast majority NA 2000+ diamonds would be low diamond/plat in korea. all of the (regular, not jinro/huk/TLO/whatever) TLers playing on the korean servers are on average two leagues below where they are on NA.
just sayin, because there seem to be a lot of "that's low" comments here...
FYI, 1800 >> the korean GSL commentator (not 박준규, who posts here, but the other one, forgot his ID)
so where is this coming from?
I am all for with the "koreans are doing better in SC2 than NA specifically, that I completely agree. There are more top level players there in the general, one would expect so from the culture.
However I don't understand this High Diamond in NA = Low Diamond / Plat in Korea.
People who have been playing on Korean server,(one of not shure who said it) TLO, HuK, Jinro etc said in previous interviews that THERE IS NO FRIGGEN DIFFERENCE.
Sure the korean server may be the toughest but I'd imagine the gap to be at the point of ~500 points range. Even that I believe is stretching it.
Can we stop this korean fanboyism until we have people who ACTUALLY ladder there and have solid results?
Idra sitting at 2500 for NA serve rand 2300 for KR server.
This doesn't factor in the fact that IdrA did not play on the NA account for a LOOONG time and thus when he got back in he was paired againts people that are below his level who climbed above him in points.
you just proved it yourself. you say idra climbed higher by beating those below his lvl but of equal points? ok let's say a month ago iidra was sitting at 2.3k NA and 2.1k KR (random numbers). what you are basically saying is that people at 2.3k NA points were BELOW idra's lvl, while KR 2.1k was EQUAL to idra's lvl.
or think about it this way points are getting higher over time. since idra hasnt played NA in a while, his NA point should be LOWER than KR assuming NA and KR were at same lvl.
Well with a large group of people 1800+ i think its safe to say they all know how to play the game, and its kinda like making 1800 ranking = to 0 and they go from there. And what ever happend to that pro league i thought blizzard was putting in there, you know the bronze to gold to plat to diamond to pro?
Wow, Boxer's finally reaping the rewards of having so many fans, If only Reach would start a clan, you know, only for people who possess like 1/10 of his manliness... XD
On November 11 2010 22:57 undyinglight wrote: Is this clan open to foreigners or is it only for those on SEA?
Probably just Koreans... I'd imagine they don't speak toooo much English, would be cool to get in though.
That would be cool if anyone 1800 and up could join just to be a part of the clan and not part of the pro team that will actually go competing in the GSL.
On November 12 2010 04:50 bobbingmatt wrote: So now is he SlayerSSlayerSBoxeR?
That's actually a good point, lol. He must be shortening his name to just BoxeR unless he wants to be "SlayerS SlayerS_`BoxeR`" It's sure to cause a little confusion, especially if FoxeR keeps his name.
On November 10 2010 15:24 silentreality wrote: On a semi-related note, the recent trend seems to be typing out your in game handle in korean. As in 슬레이어스박서. I was watching Gisado the other day and saw that a lot of other people are doing the same. ^^;;
I wonder who started this fad
오지에서과일장수
You know what.. I think you may be right! ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
i was thinking a bit and i think liquid players in korea should join the bandwagon.
i mean half of their members names derive from korean terms anyway.
On November 12 2010 04:50 bobbingmatt wrote: So now is he SlayerSSlayerSBoxeR?
That's actually a good point, lol. He must be shortening his name to just BoxeR unless he wants to be "SlayerS SlayerS_`BoxeR`" It's sure to cause a little confusion, especially if FoxeR keeps his name.
In the interview prior to the GSL 2 finals FoxeR said he would change his name to OptimusPrime.
On November 10 2010 15:24 silentreality wrote: On a semi-related note, the recent trend seems to be typing out your in game handle in korean. As in 슬레이어스박서. I was watching Gisado the other day and saw that a lot of other people are doing the same. ^^;;
I wonder who started this fad
오지에서과일장수
You know what.. I think you may be right! ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
i was thinking a bit and i think liquid players in korea should join the bandwagon.
i mean half of their members names derive from korean terms anyway.
since korean names arent allowed, i hope they can bring back the old system where we can use special characters! i remember my account of 2000 games got deleted once they disabled special characters
SlayerS_`BoxeR` isn't same without the ` ^_^
and i always thought it'll be pronounced 리크위드 but i think 리퀴드 does make more sense
Its not clear but apparently Cella has joined sls. It wasn't entirely understanble but he said on his stream something along the lines that Boxers girlfriend had originally reccomended him sometime ago. Cella wasn't decided at the time but it seems now he's decided to join sls. Again is wasn't clear but if its true this is great!
I dont understand, there are several females in this rooster? Is this team not serious or is Boxer gonna form an A-team that practise together?
lol @ implying chicks can't be good at Starcraft.
Also you might want to remember that they are just names, just because you have a name of a girl doesn't mean you are one - in GSL we had "Angel" and I believe the Jessica noted above was also in the qualifiers of GSL (who weren't girls).