IMNesTea, 'I'll show everyone better games in the final'
IMNesTea swept SlayerS_BoxeR 4:0 with impeccable play, and will face off with the 'Super Rookie' BoxeRPrime in Jang Chung Gymnasium.
Q.You advanced to the finals without a loss. A. I'm so glad that I beat the Terran Emperor. I didn't expect a 4:0, but I thought I could win it if I took the first set. The first set was very crucial and I played today thinking I'd probably lose the first set.
Q. You reflected everything SlayerS_BoxeR threw at you. A. I didn't really prepare, but I practiced thinking he'll do something tricky. I wanted to practice with IMmvp, but he didn't help me out that much (laughs). However, he used a 2 proxy barracks build on Scrap Station and when I scouted that, I thought to myself that I was having one of those days where everything went right.
Q. You defended well in other sets as well. A. I drone scouted in the fourth set, but there was no barracks at a correct timing. I thought he was doing something, and indeed there was a hidden barracks proxied.
Q. Were there any dangerous moments? A. In the second set, I tried to bust him with banelings, but did not work so well. I thought I was at a disadvantage and lost many drones to hellions. I thought it was going to be hard to come back, but I got lucky I guess.
Q. What would've happened if Terran tried to bust your entrance? A. He didn't have a whole lot of army. Even if he did, I could have turned all my larvae into army and it should have been fine.
Q. You tried an all-in in the first set. A. I wanted to 6 pool initially. In practice, I only won just once on this map. My plan was to lose this set and take the next 4, but I was lucky and the attack went very well. The map was so hard that I thought I could win the series if I just won on this one map.
Q. You will face BoxeRPrime in the final. A. I think it's 50/50. He is very sharp and offensive. We know each other's styles fairly well, and if we prepare, there should be very exciting games. The maps are going to be huge factors.
Q. You didn't do so well last season. A. Last season was when I just started playing this game. I knew I wasn't very good, but this time, I feel like I improved a ton. I rarely lose on ladder and have been beating many pros. I still didn't think I'd get so far though.
Q. Did the patch 1.1.2 help you out? A. Even with the patch I think Terran and Zerg are on even terms. There are many Terrans that are very good. I think it's just that Terrans are being crybabies (laughs).
Q. You didn't accomplish a whole lot as a BW professional gamer. A. I'm very excited to have this opportunities in my late 20's. I want to thank my mom, older brother, and girlfriend for cheering for me. I will show everyone better games in the final. I don't think I can go without a loss, but I want to prepare well and win.
Q. Were you worried that your opponent was SlayerS_BoxeR? A. I was worried until yesterday. I wasn't so sure if I could do well. In the first set, my hands even started to shake. However, I felt much better after I had won the first set.
Q. How are you going to spend the prize money if you win? A. I want to win first. I'll most likely put it into savings.
Q. Any comments? A. I think I'll get flamed for knocking out SlayerS_BoxeR (laughs). I'm not too worried, but I plan to play impressively in the final. Special thanks to the coach for the never-ending support. Team IM fighting!
임재덕은 5일 소니에릭슨 스타크래프트2 오픈 시즌2 4강 2회차에서 '황제' 임요환(무소속)을 상대로 완벽한 플레이를 펼치며 4:0으로 압승을 거뒀다. 이로써 임재덕은 오는 13일, 장충체육관에서 펼쳐지는 결승전에서 '슈퍼루키' 이정훈(프라임)과 우승을 놓고 맞붙게 됐다.
다음은 임재덕과의 일문일답.
- 전승으로 결승전에 진출했다. ▲ 테란의 황제를 이겨서 너무 기쁘다. 솔직히 4:0은 기대하지 않았다. 1세트만 이기면 가능할지도 모른다는 생각은 하기는 했다. 1세트에서 이긴 것이 정말 중요했다. 1세트는 거의 졌다는 생각으로 경기에 임했다.
- 임요환의 전략을 모조리 막아내는 모습이었다. ▲ 준비를 많이 하지는 못했다. 임요환 선수가 독특한 빌드를 쓸 것 같아서 그 위주로 연습을 했다. (정)종현이랑 연습을 하려고 했는데 많이 안 도와주더라(웃음). 하지만 3세트 고철처리장에서 종현이가 전진 2병영으로 사용해줬다. 정찰을 하면서 '오늘 되는 날이구나'라는 생각이 들었다.
- 3세트 외의 다른 세트에서도 전략을 잘 막았는데. ▲ 4세트 폭염사막 같은 경우는 일벌레 정찰을 갔는데 병영이 있어야 할 타이밍에 없더라. 속임수를 쓰는 듯한 움직임이 보여서 정찰을 했더니 몰래 병영이 있더라.
- 위험했던 순간은 없었나? ▲ 2세트 금속도시에서 저글링, 맹독충 공격을 시도했는데 아무런 성과를 거두지 못했다. 많이 불리하다고 생각했고 화염차에도 일벌레를 많이 잃었다. 어렵다고 생각했는데 운이 좋아서 이긴 것 같다.
- 2세트 금속도시에서 테란이 정면으로 치고 들어왔으면 어땠을까? ▲ 의외로 병력이 많지는 않더라. 정면으로 왔다고 해도 애벌레를 모두 병력으로 바꾸면 됐기 때문에 막을 수 있었을 것 같다.
- 1세트 델타사분면에서는 올인성 공격을 시도했다. ▲ 원래는 6산란못을 하려고 했다. 연습 때 단 한 판 밖에 이기지 못했던 맵이다. 1세트를 내주고 2, 3, 4세트를 잡으려고 했는데 공격이 잘 통했다. 운이 좋았다. 1세트만 이기면 무조건 이긴다는 생각을 할 정도로 어려운 세트였다.
- 결승전에서는 이정훈을 상대해야 하는데. ▲ 결승전은 반반이라고 본다. 이정훈 선수가 정말 날카롭고 강력하더라. 서로 스타일을 어느 정도 알고 있기 때문에 준비를 잘한다면 정말 재미있는 경기가 나올 것 같다. 맵이 변수이기는 하다.
- 지난 시즌에는 부진한 성적이었는데. ▲ 시즌1 때는 스타크래프트2를 시작한지 얼마 되지 않은 상태였다. 스스로도 잘하지 못한다고 생각했다. 하지만 시즌2를 앞두고 실력이 늘었다는 생각이 들었다. 래더에서도 거의 지지 않고 고수들과도 많이 이기더라. 그래도 결승까지 올 줄은 정말 몰랐다.
- 1.1.2 패치로 인해 힘을 얻지는 않았나? ▲ 패치가 되었지만 테란과 저그는 반반이라고 생각한다. 강력한 테란들은 정말 잘한다. 테란이 너무 엄살부리는 것 같다(웃음).
- 스타1 시절에는 뚜렷한 성적을 거두지 못했는데. ▲ 20대 마지막에 이런 큰 기회가 와서 너무 고맙다. 믿어준 어머니, 형, 여자친구에게 고맙다. 여자친구가 응원을 많이 해줬다. 결승전에서 더 멋진 경기를 하겠다. 전승을 할 수 있을 것이라는 생각은 들지 않지만 열심히 준비해서 꼭 우승을 하고 싶다.
- 상대가 임요환이라서 걱정스럽지는 않았나? ▲ 어제까지는 정말 걱정이 많았다. '잘 할 수 있을까' 싶은 생각이 들었다. 1세트까지만 해도 손이 부들부들 떨렸다. 하지만 1세트 공격이 통한 이후에 마음이 편해졌다.
- 우승한다면 상금은 어떻게 쓸 생각인가? ▲ 일단 우승을 해봐야 알 것 같다. 생각은 해보지 않았다. 대부분 저축을 하지 않을까 싶다.
- 더 하고 싶은 말이 있다면. ▲ 임요환 선수를 떨어뜨려서 욕을 많이 먹을 것 같다(웃음). 걱정은 되지 않지만 황제를 이긴만큼 결승전에서 더 좋은 경기를 보여드려야 한다는 생각을 하고 있다. 그리고 언제나 아낌없는 지원을 해주고 있는 강동훈 감독에게 감사드린다. IM팀 파이팅.
StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
A. Even with the patch I think Terran and Zerg are on even terms. There are many Terrans that are very good. I think it's just that Terrans are being crybabies (laughs).
What a statment haha. Even though im sad boxer lost, nestea sure played solidly today.
Im definitely anticipating both foxer and nestea's series in the finals. I don't really care who wins as long as they give us great games
ZergBong dominated SlayersBoxer even more than FruitDealer dominated SlayersBoxer at BlizzCon 2010. He's been steamrolling pretty much everybody in the GSL2 so far. Can't wait to see the epic matches between him and Foxer in the finals.
On November 05 2010 21:17 TungVu wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Damn, its gonna be another TvZ final
Really? You would've prefered a TvT? I think TvT's a pretty fun match up to watch lately but honestly I think a 2race mu is always more exiting and fun...
He played unbelievable tonight. And i believe Boxer was a little down from his previous games. Nestea's macro was incredible though. Very IdrA style in a way. Was good to see more zerg's playing this style.
Hopefully Foxer and Nestea make for a great final. And lets pray they don't get overwhelmed for the final on such a massive stage in front of 3k+ people
Reading the whole interview I kept thinking of the state of the game podcast about how they are all similar, the answers to the questions that is. I'm now hoping to see someone say "I'll blow all the money on cars and maybe save if i win another GSL" every time I see the prize question...
Was hoping to see BoxeR v FoxeR, but ZvT is also great again for the finals instead of a mirror. And obviously very impressive 4-0 against BoxeR.
I want foxer to win but I think nestea will take it. Which will result in 1000 more people switching to Zerg and more balance complaints sadly.. But this is how Sc2 is I guess
Q. You didn't do so well last season. A. Last season was when I just started playing this game. I knew I wasn't very good, but this time, I feel like I improved a ton. I rarely lose on ladder and have been beating many pros. I still didn't think I'd get so far though.
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Seriously?! This kid is good! more like a prodigy.
Q. You didn't do so well last season. A. Last season was when I just started playing this game. I knew I wasn't very good, but this time, I feel like I improved a ton. I rarely lose on ladder and have been beating many pros. I still didn't think I'd get so far though.
Seriously?! This kid is good! more like a prodigy.
ZergBong (aka NesTea) was quite dominant on todays matches and was able to reac to all those proxy barracks quite effectively. Im glad we're gonna have a ZvT at the finals, i enjoy TvT but seeing an Old BroodWar veteran facing Foxer intense micro skills will be pretty awesome.
Q. You didn't do so well last season. A. Last season was when I just started playing this game. I knew I wasn't very good, but this time, I feel like I improved a ton. I rarely lose on ladder and have been beating many pros. I still didn't think I'd get so far though.
Seriously?! This kid is good! more like a prodigy.
Isn't that a lie? I could have sworn I remember a ton of rumors of ZergBong playing SC2 in beta.
Q. You didn't do so well last season. A. Last season was when I just started playing this game. I knew I wasn't very good, but this time, I feel like I improved a ton. I rarely lose on ladder and have been beating many pros. I still didn't think I'd get so far though.
Seriously?! This kid is good! more like a prodigy.
Isn't that a lie? I could have sworn I remember a ton of rumors of ZergBong playing SC2 in beta.
Doubt it, the guy didn't even know about creep tumors in gsl1
Q. You didn't do so well last season. A. Last season was when I just started playing this game. I knew I wasn't very good, but this time, I feel like I improved a ton. I rarely lose on ladder and have been beating many pros. I still didn't think I'd get so far though.
Seriously?! This kid is good! more like a prodigy.
Isn't that a lie? I could have sworn I remember a ton of rumors of ZergBong playing SC2 in beta.
On November 05 2010 23:57 EchOne wrote: IIRC Foxer was also an ex-BW pro on OZ. ZergBong's interview wasn't entirely boring, but his answer to the money question definitely was.
On November 05 2010 23:20 CidO wrote: Reading the whole interview I kept thinking of the state of the game podcast about how they are all similar, the answers to the questions that is. I'm now hoping to see someone say "I'll blow all the money on cars and maybe save if i win another GSL" every time I see the prize question...
Was hoping to see BoxeR v FoxeR, but ZvT is also great again for the finals instead of a mirror. And obviously very impressive 4-0 against BoxeR.
They're not Americans. Saving money is just ingrained in them. It's the opposite of American sports stars and blowing all their money.
It's kinda odd to me seeing Boxer's TvZ being his weakest match-up in SC2 since it's his strongest in BW.
On November 05 2010 23:20 CidO wrote: Reading the whole interview I kept thinking of the state of the game podcast about how they are all similar, the answers to the questions that is. I'm now hoping to see someone say "I'll blow all the money on cars and maybe save if i win another GSL" every time I see the prize question...
Was hoping to see BoxeR v FoxeR, but ZvT is also great again for the finals instead of a mirror. And obviously very impressive 4-0 against BoxeR.
They're not Americans. Saving money is just ingrained in them. It's the opposite of American stars* and blowing all their money.
I corrected that, I wouldn't limit it to just sports stars, media and entertainment have their fair share. Being American myself I admit I would take some of the money and spend it (say... 10%) and the rest I would save.
Boxerplay today reminded me alot of Dimaga's style before the patches ... Even in the interviews he says that zerg is too strong and terran got too many buffs...
If he would've played a normal style like he did in the showmatch vs fruitdealer i he could've taken some games or even win IMO.
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
MVP wasn't anything but the punching bag of Proleague, I don't even think he won more than two games. He was the idol of the Woongjin Terran lineup, that is probably the worst terran lineup of any team, even Airforce ACE.
MVP pretty much got on that Power Rank for taking a game off Flash, who is the guy who has currently played 6 consecutive finals in a row. I don't think I need to tell you that the next three games were basically seeing a grown man bash up a little child. Basically what I mean is don't take the power rank seriously (too many people do).
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
MVP wasn't anything but the punching bag of Proleague, I don't even think he won more than two games. He was the idol of the Woongjin Terran lineup, that is probably the worst terran lineup of any team, even Airforce ACE.
MVP pretty much got on that Power Rank for taking a game off Flash, who is the guy who has currently played 6 consecutive finals in a row. I don't think I need to tell you that the next three games were basically seeing a grown man bash up a little child.
On November 06 2010 00:37 Antipod wrote: Anyone else slightly annoyed by this interview style?
e.g. You didn't accomplish a whole lot in sc1.
I mean he just says shit and hopes the guy replies? How hard is it to ask a question?
/rant
I'm pretty sure fomos rewrites the interview after they do them, which is why you sometimes get weird non-questions, and answers that don't seem to be directed at specific questions. That's how they do it with BW interviews at least.
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
I really like ZBo - he didn't do any stupid stuff like make roaches dance, Genius finger, whatever...just played really carefully and smartly against Boxer, who seemed to be playing really "tight" - trying too hard
if Kyrix can take Foxer to the brink with his monomaniacal style, I think Bong has a good chance, especially now that both guys have a week to practice.
I wonder who they'll practice against, cuz Bong can ask any of his practice partners to mass marines while Foxer needs to find a really balanced and smart Zerg to practice against - maybe he'll get help from the Zs that got taken out like TheWind and Zenio
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
MVP wasn't anything but the punching bag of Proleague, I don't even think he won more than two games. He was the idol of the Woongjin Terran lineup, that is probably the worst terran lineup of any team, even Airforce ACE.
MVP pretty much got on that Power Rank for taking a game off Flash, who is the guy who has currently played 6 consecutive finals in a row. I don't think I need to tell you that the next three games were basically seeing a grown man bash up a little child.
Take out offline events and he's only got a 41% win rate. Funnily enough, he's most successful against Stork (considering Stork being inconsistent all the damn time, this shouldn't be too surprising I guess).
Basically MVP had some really massive streak in the Hana Daetoo MSL where he beat Stork, Best, Baby, and Flash (and Jangbi in PL) which gives him that nice win streak statistic. Outside of that short period, the stats suggest he's a weak player and watching him play will confirm the general the consensus that he's got like 500 APM but no brains to use it right.
Really disappointed with the result of this matchup. Would've been so good for SC2 and esports to see boxer reach the finals of his first GSL, even if he lost. How epic would it have been to see him on the grand stage at the stadium with confetti flying while he is raised to the gaming platform on the elevator.
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
You just made up these rankings arbitrarily dude... most people consider Bisu and probably Stork S-class as well.
Light and by.hero are easily A-class I dunno what you're talking about. Mind was sick for about a year or two before kinda dropping off a bit, but he's still okay. I would still consider him A-class because he's a regular in WeMade matches. IMO, anyone who is likely to get sent out on in any given PL match is considered A-class (and that includes Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho while they were still active).
S-Class = Won multiple individual leagues, team ace A-class = A PL regular for their team B-class = Rarely ever gets sent out, except maybe to snipe (e.g. bbyong and Canata from SKT, Tempest from KT, etc)
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
You just made up these rankings arbitrarily dude... most people consider Bisu and probably Stork S-class as well.
Light and by.hero are easily A-class I dunno what you're talking about. Mind was sick for about a year or two before kinda dropping off a bit, but he's still okay. I would still consider him A-class because he's a regular in WeMade matches. IMO, anyone who is likely to get sent out on in any given PL match is considered A-class (and that includes Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho while they were still active).
S-Class = Won multiple individual leagues, team ace A-class = A PL regular for their team B-class = Rarely ever gets sent out, except maybe to snipe (e.g. bbyong and Canata from SKT, Tempest from KT, etc)
Being a regular PL player doesn't qualify you as A-class if your team is garbage and they have no one else to send out.
Sorry to ask, but is he sponsored by Nestle? I can imagine tons of free marketing for Nestea in Korea due to NesTea's progress in GSL. I'm actually pretty sure his name violates Blizzard's EULA...
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
I think that the short answer is the counter system. Build orders are drastically more important in sc2 it seems (imo) and therefore scouting becomes immensely important. In sc1 a player could often blindy choose a build and play from there, in sc2 if you play blind and don't adapt your build you are almost garunteed to lose. In the case of sc2, there is also the whole pressure and initiative. Players like foxer with early pressure can force the other player into a style that they want. Yes micro is important and will give you slight edges (or huge edges if not scouted like a banshee or hellion). Eventually all the popular builds will be figured out and the counters will be known. This will cause the value of micro to increase.
SC2 has advanced pretty well so far, but it still has a ways to go before all the possible builds are discovered and thus winning build order games will happen frequently. (Unless you are foxer who has amazing enough micro to win against almost any build it seems, but most of us (including the pros) aren't there yet).
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
You just made up these rankings arbitrarily dude... most people consider Bisu and probably Stork S-class as well.
Light and by.hero are easily A-class I dunno what you're talking about. Mind was sick for about a year or two before kinda dropping off a bit, but he's still okay. I would still consider him A-class because he's a regular in WeMade matches. IMO, anyone who is likely to get sent out on in any given PL match is considered A-class (and that includes Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho while they were still active).
S-Class = Won multiple individual leagues, team ace A-class = A PL regular for their team B-class = Rarely ever gets sent out, except maybe to snipe (e.g. bbyong and Canata from SKT, Tempest from KT, etc)
Being a regular PL player doesn't qualify you as A-class if your team is garbage and they have no one else to send out.
This is why we look at individual league results
You do realize every single team this season is either 3-2 or 2-3 in matches so far except SKT1 and Ace right?
just noticed BoxeR and Nestea are #2 and #1 in the same division! Almost identical win%, but BoxeR has more ladder games played. Funny enough, SlayerS_BoxeR's two accounts are in the same division.
Can someone from Teamliquid start paying CanucksJC if he isn't being paid already. The interview translations are always the morning after GSL and the translations are really good. I think he deserves some compensation.
As for Zergbong. Underdogs for the win! Fixer vs Zergbong is going to be pretty amazing.
The interview style has always been like that for fomos.
Bonjwa is a very very special term that we use only for very dominant players, ie. nobody in SC2 right now.
Interview translators do not and never will get paid. These people do it out of the kindness of their hearts and do not expect compensation. If CanucksJC deserves to get paid, look at the many many people who have translated for tl for years first.
I know it's not your fault for being new, but sometimes I feel like backhanding you guys.
On November 06 2010 02:43 zzaaxxsscd wrote: just noticed BoxeR and Nestea are #2 and #1 in the same division! Almost identical win%, but BoxeR has more ladder games played. Funny enough, SlayerS_BoxeR's two accounts are in the same division.
Q. Were there any dangerous moments? A. In the second set, I tried to bust him with banelings, but did not work so well. I thought I was at a disadvantage and lost many drones to hellions. I thought it was going to be hard to come back, but I got lucky I guess.
Q. What would've happened if Terran tried to bust your entrance? A. He didn't have a whole lot of army. Even if he did, I could have turned all my larvae into army and it should have been fine.
Q. Did the patch 1.1.2 help you out? A. Even with the patch I think Terran and Zerg are on even terms. There are many Terrans that are very good. I think it's just that Terrans are being crybabies (laughs).
Haha, what a hypocrit :D Burn Zerg, burn!
Thanks for the translation OP, you are doing such a wonderful job on a series of interviews! KudoZ in the name of the community!
As for people throwing out the word Bonjwa... Even if you know what it means and you're just kidding, it not only cheapens the word horribly, but it disrespects those who worked hard to become Bonjwa in Brood War.
Just looking at the path of Boxer versus the path of NesTea to the Ro4, I'm not surprised at all at the outcome. In my personal conspiracy theory opinion, Boxer and Nada looked like they were given easier brackets just for the purpose of them meeting up to boost ratings. It would be a travesty if Boxer actually made it to the finals because he's clearly not one of the top two best players there. Sorry fanboys, fame doesn't equal skill.
On November 06 2010 10:34 seiferoth10 wrote: Just looking at the path of Boxer versus the path of NesTea to the Ro4, I'm not surprised at all at the outcome. In my personal conspiracy theory opinion, Boxer and Nada looked like they were given easier brackets just for the purpose of them meeting up to boost ratings. It would be a travesty if Boxer actually made it to the finals because he's clearly not one of the top two best players there. Sorry fanboys, fame doesn't equal skill.
Not much of a conspiracy, most people would agree with you on that one. Gretech bribing Boxer/Nada's opponents to win would be a conspiracy theory (and of course some have proposed this, because it is SC2)
On November 06 2010 03:05 YellowNRed wrote: Can someone from Teamliquid start paying CanucksJC if he isn't being paid already. The interview translations are always the morning after GSL and the translations are really good. I think he deserves some compensation.
As for Zergbong. Underdogs for the win! Fixer vs Zergbong is going to be pretty amazing.
I translate them the moment it comes up P it just took a while for the mod to post this up here haha
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
You just made up these rankings arbitrarily dude... most people consider Bisu and probably Stork S-class as well.
Light and by.hero are easily A-class I dunno what you're talking about. Mind was sick for about a year or two before kinda dropping off a bit, but he's still okay. I would still consider him A-class because he's a regular in WeMade matches. IMO, anyone who is likely to get sent out on in any given PL match is considered A-class (and that includes Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho while they were still active).
S-Class = Won multiple individual leagues, team ace A-class = A PL regular for their team B-class = Rarely ever gets sent out, except maybe to snipe (e.g. bbyong and Canata from SKT, Tempest from KT, etc)
Being a regular PL player doesn't qualify you as A-class if your team is garbage and they have no one else to send out.
This is why we look at individual league results
You do realize every single team this season is either 3-2 or 2-3 in matches so far except SKT1 and Ace right?
That's irrelevant because most teams only have two to three good players and a whole pile of fairly mediocre to bad players; but you never saw them because you only had to send out 4 players. Now you have to send out 6 players, teams are forced to dig deep and play their scrubs; hence the reason you get some funny results like rookies reverse sweeping other teams after they've played their best players and ACE actually winning a lot more games.
Proleague Results meant a lot for MVP because when Woongjing was forced to send out a terran, he would never win. All this tier shit is bullshit because it literally doesn't mean anything. It doesn't matter whether or not Flash is considered bonjwa tier or MVP is considered A Class because he was in the A team for Woonjing. Watching the games they play confirms whether or not these players are actually good or not (Flash is good, MVP was bad and loses constantly).
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
I think that the short answer is the counter system. Build orders are drastically more important in sc2 it seems (imo) and therefore scouting becomes immensely important. In sc1 a player could often blindy choose a build and play from there, in sc2 if you play blind and don't adapt your build you are almost garunteed to lose. In the case of sc2, there is also the whole pressure and initiative. Players like foxer with early pressure can force the other player into a style that they want. Yes micro is important and will give you slight edges (or huge edges if not scouted like a banshee or hellion). Eventually all the popular builds will be figured out and the counters will be known. This will cause the value of micro to increase.
SC2 has advanced pretty well so far, but it still has a ways to go before all the possible builds are discovered and thus winning build order games will happen frequently. (Unless you are foxer who has amazing enough micro to win against almost any build it seems, but most of us (including the pros) aren't there yet).
Not sure what you mean by this as even a D level PvZ is highly scouting dependant. Eg: protoss scouts 9pool and reacts with 2 cannons or protoss scouts 12 hatch and can skip cannons.
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
Everyone you listed has either been S class at one point or is S class right now, your suggestion that Light is a B team is if you'll excuse my French is fucking hilarious. I literally think you have zero clue what S-class even means, because it certainly isn't a term reserved for the best 2 players.
On November 05 2010 21:17 Rinny wrote: StonerZerg for bonjwa! This really makes me think that the success of ex brood warians and foreigners is completely dependent on the rts talent pool being tied up in sc1.
No one argues that BW is a harder game to play and takes more skill to master, at least at this point in time. I don't think, however, that just because they are both SC that skills from BW immediately translates to SC2. Take mvp for example... checking the TL power ranks he was in the top 10 for BW as few as 6 months ago. If a top 10 player from BW gets knocked out in the ro32, and someone like NaDa, who hasn't been in the top 10 for awhile, can make it to the ro4 there must be something other than BW skill alone that makes a SC2 player successful.
I don't think that if/when all the BW players come over to SC2 it will be autowin, except for JD and Flash maybe. I think it's a different game with different skillsets, and the SC2 guys that didn't have a lot of success in BW (NesTea, Fruitdealer, TesteR) have the skillset to do well in SC2. That doesn't mean that current BW pros can aquire that skillset, but if every single BW pro transferred over to SC2 tomorrow I don't think we would see the top 10 from BW immediately become the top 10 in SC2.
Just my $0.02.
You are seriously underestimating how good A-class SC1 pros are.
I think you mean S-class, because Tester, Fruit, MVP, Sangho are all A-class BW pros and each got knocked out Ro16 or earlier.
On November 05 2010 21:19 Invictus wrote: A. Even with the patch I think Terran and Zerg are on even terms. There are many Terrans that are very good. I think it's just that Terrans are being crybabies (laughs).
What a statment haha. Even though im sad boxer lost, nestea sure played solidly today.
Im definitely anticipating both foxer and nestea's series in the finals. I don't really care who wins as long as they give us great games
Agree!
Hopefully next season a Protoss will make it into the finals though :D
wow im really suprised that nestea made it this far. he must have quit the weed cos back in sc1 i thought he was the dumbest zerg there was after watching this game where he charges 10 lurkers at 4 bunkers and loses them for no gain. cant wait till to see the finals turn out
A-class is not synonymous with A-team, because each team has like 10 people on the A-team and if you consider all the teams it's like 100 A-team players.... I would probably consider around 20 players A-class at a given time, and even that is a very generous number. That being said, I don't think any A-class brood war player has switched to SC2 yet, but seeing as how medium bw progamers (current skill) e.g. clare, boxer, nada, and zergbong have reached up so high in the tournament, I would say if all BW players switched, including the A-class, then GSL would be utterly dominated by them.
^ I'm curious as to Zergbong's "if you try this shit on me, I have a counter" quote from his interview with Artosis. Maybe he underestimates the power of marines
On November 06 2010 13:54 divertiti wrote: A zerg player calling others "cry babies"??? Oh the irony.
Not sure if you play zerg on ladder, but almost everytime I beat a terran on ladder its "Fucking roaches, OP."
That may be true since the last patch, but Zerg players have been doing that since beta, and they haven't stopped. There was over a month period on TL where there were almost no threads that's not related to Zergs whining and about supposed "high level" Zerg trying to get their race buffed by threatening to switch races. Even after the last patch, when the whole world knows Zerg is at least even if not have the upper hand, Idra still let's out a passive aggressive whine "Smart players don't play Zerg" in a match with SeleCt. Seeing a Zerg comment on other races being "cry babies" is just way too ironic.
NesTea, Your win against boxer is nothing short of a lucky break. Skillwise, you're still way far behind Lim Yo Hwan which I doubt you can ever catch up in this lifetime. Boxer played sloppy cos he wasted his last 2 lives trying to cheese you. You won cos of his mistakes and miscalculations rather than your "superior skill". The gsl money that you could potentially win is just icecream money compared to what he is getting from intel. I hope you dont walk away from this thinking you are BoxeRsSlayeR... Sorry for the brutal honest opinion post here.
1. IMNesTea is NOT a Bonjwa, nor can he become one anytime soon. It require much more than a poor showing at GSL#1 and a sweep of GSL#2 to earn that title.
2. SlayerRsBoxeR was once a god, but he doens't have the skill he once had. I bet NesTea could beat him in BW at this point.
3. FoxeR is very talented, as is NesTea. It's going to be a very interesting final.
4. LOL ZERG PLAYER SAYS TERRANS WHINE OHMAN (everyone whines, get used to it guys )
On November 05 2010 23:20 CidO wrote: Reading the whole interview I kept thinking of the state of the game podcast about how they are all similar, the answers to the questions that is. I'm now hoping to see someone say "I'll blow all the money on cars and maybe save if i win another GSL" every time I see the prize question...
Was hoping to see BoxeR v FoxeR, but ZvT is also great again for the finals instead of a mirror. And obviously very impressive 4-0 against BoxeR.
They're not Americans. Saving money is just ingrained in them. It's the opposite of American sports stars and blowing all their money.
It's kinda odd to me seeing Boxer's TvZ being his weakest match-up in SC2 since it's his strongest in BW.
you realize 87g is not that much money to blow right?
In asia you can barely afford the lowest class mercedes...
Sport stars in NA (and other parts of the world I am sure) can buy a mercedes everyday and would equate to us buying lunch.
On November 07 2010 12:51 iGX wrote: NesTea, Your win against boxer is nothing short of a lucky break. Skillwise, you're still way far behind Lim Yo Hwan which I doubt you can ever catch up in this lifetime. Boxer played sloppy cos he wasted his last 2 lives trying to cheese you. You won cos of his mistakes and miscalculations rather than your "superior skill". The gsl money that you could potentially win is just icecream money compared to what he is getting from intel. I hope you dont walk away from this thinking you are BoxeRsSlayeR... Sorry for the brutal honest opinion post here.
Lol, true gold post right here. This needs to glued. Spoken like a true ignorant fanboy !
On November 07 2010 12:51 iGX wrote: NesTea, Your win against boxer is nothing short of a lucky break. Skillwise, you're still way far behind Lim Yo Hwan which I doubt you can ever catch up in this lifetime. Boxer played sloppy cos he wasted his last 2 lives trying to cheese you. You won cos of his mistakes and miscalculations rather than your "superior skill". The gsl money that you could potentially win is just icecream money compared to what he is getting from intel. I hope you dont walk away from this thinking you are BoxeRsSlayeR... Sorry for the brutal honest opinion post here.
This is one of the most ridiculous "brutal honest opinions" I've ever seen posted. 4-0...yep, clearly NesTea is way inferior to Boxer in SC2.
On November 07 2010 12:51 iGX wrote: NesTea, Your win against boxer is nothing short of a lucky break. Skillwise, you're still way far behind Lim Yo Hwan which I doubt you can ever catch up in this lifetime. Boxer played sloppy cos he wasted his last 2 lives trying to cheese you. You won cos of his mistakes and miscalculations rather than your "superior skill". The gsl money that you could potentially win is just icecream money compared to what he is getting from intel. I hope you dont walk away from this thinking you are BoxeRsSlayeR... Sorry for the brutal honest opinion post here.
This is one of the most ridiculous "brutal honest opinions" I've ever seen posted. 4-0...yep, clearly NesTea is way inferior to Boxer in SC2.
What's funny is that iGX acts like Zergbong was talking shit about being superior to BoxeR. I mean come on, I've been a BoxeR fan since 2001 but there's no reason to hate on Zergbong for displaying some of the best Z we've seen in the game so far. He is clearly the better player.
I'm glad it'll be ZB vs Foxer in finals, a flawless Z vs the "next big thing".
On November 07 2010 12:51 iGX wrote: NesTea, Your win against boxer is nothing short of a lucky break. Skillwise, you're still way far behind Lim Yo Hwan which I doubt you can ever catch up in this lifetime. Boxer played sloppy cos he wasted his last 2 lives trying to cheese you. You won cos of his mistakes and miscalculations rather than your "superior skill". The gsl money that you could potentially win is just icecream money compared to what he is getting from intel. I hope you dont walk away from this thinking you are BoxeRsSlayeR... Sorry for the brutal honest opinion post here.
So much rage in this post it makes me giggle. My favorite player lost, time for some hatepost!.
This finals is gonna be SICK. Fauxer taking out Fruitseller and Kirix, he's been the one terran who has been making zerg look stupid, but ZergBong has been just crushing like a frigging monster. Crushing everything. This is such a compelling final, weather the strongest zerg on earth can take out the bane of all famous zergs so far.
I think the finals are gonna be great! At this point, everyone's hyped about FoxeR's marine play, and how he roflstomped Fruitdealer (among other people no one thought he would beat). Will he use a similar strategy against Nestea? Will Nestea over-prepare of the FoxeR marines, allowing FoxeR room for some serious mind games? Will Nestea absolutely roll FoxeR, demonstrating just how OP zerg really is? The finals aren't just to determine who takes first, but where the state of the game really is.
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P it just took a while for the mod to post this up here haha
