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DragonDefonce
United States790 Posts
On October 13 2010 01:07 Milkis wrote: My guess is they use CJ's, since the CJ - Hite merger is kinda like Hite merging into CJ. dunno about how it's officially placed though CJ didn't loose any of the players they had to become 5th, so I'd assume they would still be 5th. | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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Milkis
5003 Posts
On October 13 2010 01:28 n0xi3 wrote: That really sucks for the eSTRO players. I am hoping the ones that do not get drafted consider switching to sc2. they're all guaranteed a spot | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
1. Samsung Khan => Terran (Classic or Really) 2. Hwaseung OZ => Protoss (Flying) or Zerg (Action or Hyvaa) * 3. Woongjin Stars => Terran (remaining Classic or Really) 4. Hite Entus => Zerg (Action or Hyvaa) 5. WeMade FOX => Protoss (Flying) or Zerg (remaining Action or Hyvaa) 6. MBCGame Hero => B Team Player 7. SK Telecom => B Team Player 8. STX Soul => B Team Player 9. KT Rolster => B Team Player *No idea who OZ will pick because of the team's previous Zerg + Terran success. | ||
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osarkaooo
United States52 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On October 12 2010 23:16 bluesoup wrote: So do you agree with setup where players absolutely have no control (except bailing out) on the team where they end up ? What rights do they have if they want to keep their license ? They even do not qualify for the, ridiculous by itself (see Jaedong), free-agent treatment. Can you quote example in any sport where players have less rights on choosing a team ? So yes, I consider this to be form of modern slavery. You can voluntarily put your self in such position by signing a contract in any sport, however what bothers me in this case is that their contracts with the team are terminated due to "Force majeure" and they should be able to freely negotiate with other teams... But no... They are still slaves to KeSPA... They are "owned" by KeSPA. They are going to be "drafted"... R.I.P. Estro. F*#$&^*&k KeSPA. The contract rules are to stop teams who are willing to put more money in, dominate everything easily - which would make proleague extremely boring. Stop even using the term slavery it's an insult to people actually under those conditions. There's plenty of other sports with young athletes where the situation is far worse (notoriously child gymnasts for one). | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
The above also goes for hite sparkyz and cj entus. I know it's a merge and not a dissolve but my preschool soccer team merged with another team and basically it's not the same team anymore, it's a whole new team, full of awful. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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RumZ
United States956 Posts
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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bluesoup
Macedonia107 Posts
On October 13 2010 02:38 infinity2k9 wrote: The contract rules are to stop teams who are willing to put more money in, dominate everything easily - which would make proleague extremely boring. Stop even using the term slavery it's an insult to people actually under those conditions. There's plenty of other sports with young athletes where the situation is far worse (notoriously child gymnasts for one). I am certainly no expert, but drafts in most sports are for fresh talent (i.e. new progamers, just out of courage tornaments etc..) and they are tied to few seasons. They are legal if there is a peer union of players with which terms are also negotiated (like minimum salary for new players, etc...). If such tiny details are not followed they became modern slavery contracts and lead to bad things like current eSTRO situation. In this case they seem only serve for lowering salaries of all progamers (since KeSPA is the teams, i.e. sponsoring corporations) and banning anybody who wishes to try different e-sport (i.e. SC2) due to their daily politics... KeSPA should be plainly illegal under any normal legal system which has anti-trust provisions, if there is no peer player union which has singed collective agreement. I have not heard of such players union for BW or in any other e-sport. Consider another specific to e-sports that players retire very young and that any rookie binding contracts should be relatively short as players generally have short career. Recently added free-agent status in BW is a joke anyway and only applies to very seasoned players (like free, stork, etc...) in e-sport terms... There might be worse things in world, i give you that. Existence of such does not make KeSPA any better at what they do... Or to be worthy of anybody's support. They should be publicly condemned for what they do and called the with the right name even if it hurts. My thoughts are with former eSTRO players, and by no means i would like to insult them (or any korean progamer), but the situation in which they are in the present is just ridiculous thanks to KeSPA. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On October 13 2010 04:02 dRaW wrote: WOW, yeah looks like SC is pretty dead, HITE+CJ now estro is done... so crazy Hite was crippled after the matchmaking scandal, estro has been floundering for years. neither of these moves are surprising nor are they indicative of brood war doomsday | ||
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osarkaooo
United States52 Posts
fuck yes khan LETS GO! | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
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Therick
Norway324 Posts
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alypse
2772 Posts
 Action to KT! The Rolsters will be almost invincible with solid lineups in all 3 races! | ||
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Umbrella
Taiwan936 Posts
Hopefully I can still watch Really/Action/Classic/Flying play in other teams. It won't be the same though. =/ | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
REALLY TO WOONGJIN REALLY TO WOONGJIN REALLY TO WOONGJIN REALLY TO WOONGJIN PLEASE kN.swanized god that would be so sweet... we'll probably snatch classic instead  | ||
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Tazza
Korea (South)1678 Posts
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